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Nice piece of fish posted:How can we be sure? Speak some magic law words to convince the Elders of the Internet. Ipso facto who gives a poo poo
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merk posted:Ipso facto who gives a poo poo Checks out, invite is in the mail.
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Well guys, I got a 180 on the October LSAT but I have a poo poo GPA (Sub 3.5) I am not a URM. Have I essentially wasted my time?
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Nov 1, 2021 04:51
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yeah man I'm sure schools will hate that you got a 180
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Soothing Vapors posted:yeah man I'm sure schools will hate that you got a 180 Absolutely. You're a perfect candidate for law school. You should go and keep us posted on your successful career!
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Nov 1, 2021 05:06
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Mr. Nice! posted:Absolutely. You're a perfect candidate for law school. You should go and keep us posted on your successful career! 
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Nov 1, 2021 05:23
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You won't even need to change your name
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Cirrhosis Johnson posted:Well guys, I got a 180 on the October LSAT but I have a poo poo GPA (Sub 3.5) I am not a URM. Have I essentially wasted my time? Either nothing is a waste of time or everything is.
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Cirrhosis Johnson posted:Well guys, I got a 180 on the October LSAT but I have a poo poo GPA (Sub 3.5) I am not a URM. Have I essentially wasted my time? You should buy some bowties for your Law School Admissions interviews
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Nov 1, 2021 05:32
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Ungghhh I have big tits but... I make so much noise when I walk because I'm dummy thicc...my big rear end and tits...one will want me....?
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Cirrhosis Johnson posted:Well guys, I got a 180 on the October LSAT but I have a poo poo GPA (Sub 3.5) I am not a URM. Have I essentially wasted my time? You’ll probably be able to get into a T14. Up to you whether that’s a waste of time.
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Cirrhosis Johnson posted:Well guys, I got a 180 on the October LSAT but I have a poo poo GPA (Sub 3.5) I am not a URM. Have I essentially wasted my time? Ok. So after a while, I figured this out. You are smart. Very smart. That's a hell of an last score. The problem is you're going to be studying with people who are almost as smart but much more diligent. Success in law isn't about smart. If you want the big firm job,, you need to put in the time understanding every single piece of what you're doing. Studying to the point where your eyes hurt and you ruin your life. Because that's who they want working at the firm. Firms don't make money from you being smart and solving the problem in an hour with 99.5% confidence. They make money from you researching the 0.5% possibility for 40 hours.
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GrandmaParty posted:Ok. So after a while, I figured this out. Yes, we all know about bill padding
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Nov 1, 2021 14:25
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Take your 180, get a full ride in a top 25 school, take a job doing whatever motivates you, pay off your cost of living loans in 5 years.
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Cirrhosis Johnson posted:Well guys, I got a 180 on the October LSAT but I have a poo poo GPA (Sub 3.5) I am not a URM. Have I essentially wasted my time? i got less than that on the lsat and my gpa was slightly lower than 3.5 and i got into a top school and am now a partner so uh i don't think so
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Kalman posted:You’ll probably be able to get into a T14. Up to you whether that’s a waste of time. I should have gone to my local state school. Back in the 2000s going to UB was so stupid cheap comparitively
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also as a reminder while lower-ranked schools (and the bottom half of the T14 counts as this) have to knife-fight for every point of their rankings, the top schools have the luxury of considering how hard your gpa was to some degree (i.e. was it a good school, was it a hard major). doesn't mean they are going to, but it means that you will be slightly more than a number to them because they have the luxury of being slightly longer-term minded about school prestige this may cut for you or against you, of course
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Nov 1, 2021 15:43
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Cirrhosis Johnson posted:Well guys, I got a 180 on the October LSAT but I have a poo poo GPA (Sub 3.5) I am not a URM. Have I essentially wasted my time? I don’t know how much it has changed but five years ago you’d be able to get into a T14 with some money and would have a fighting chance at Harvard, even with a 3.4. You were unlikely to get a full ride in the T14, unfortunately, at least back then.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I have a compelling personal narrative as well (I was homeless and a drug addict at one point) so I'm hoping for the best.
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Nov 1, 2021 15:55
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terrorist ambulance posted:Ungghhh I have big tits but... I make so much noise when I walk because I'm dummy thicc...my big rear end and tits...one will want me....?
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terrorist ambulance posted:Ungghhh I have big tits but... I make so much noise when I walk because I'm dummy thicc...my big rear end and tits...one will want me....? my biceps have gotten so heavy and laden with rippling muscles that my arm gets tired real quick when I start tugging on my ten inch hog life is so unfair
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Cirrhosis Johnson posted:Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I have a compelling personal narrative as well (I was homeless and a drug addict at one point) so I'm hoping for the best. FYI, not being a dick, a history of addiction + the practice of law is a rough combination
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blarzgh posted:FYI, not being a dick, a history of addiction + the practice of law is a rough combination Yeah. Lawyers have one of the highest if not the highest substance abuse rates of any profession.
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Nov 1, 2021 16:35
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On the other hand, my AA meetings are full of lawyers so its a great way to network!
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You are far more likely to succeed than the vast majority of 0Ls, so that's really great. Being a lawyer mostly sucks, but if you're taking the LSAT, I suspect you don't have a lot of other options in terms of useful skills, so you may as well give it a go.
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merk posted:Can I get a link to the discord? I am a lawyer and would like to lawyer with other lawyers in the lawyer chat. Nice piece of fish posted:How can we be sure? Speak some magic law words to convince the Elders of the Internet. Shageletic posted:I should have
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What, not gone to law school? Yeah that checks out. Are you not in the discord? What the gently caress is wrong with you?
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Nice piece of fish posted:What, not gone to law school? Yeah that checks out. Are you not in the discord? What the gently caress is wrong with you? Waste enough of my time on this here lovely forums lol
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I can only bill so many increments of 6 mins with "lol"
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Shageletic posted:Waste enough of my time on this here lovely forums lol Right, misunderstood you. No discord. As you were.
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EwokEntourage posted:On the other hand, my AA meetings are full of lawyers so its a great way to network!
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EwokEntourage posted:On the other hand, my AA meetings are full of lawyers so its a great way to network! Mine too man.
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Who knew bar review, weekly on campus beer, wine, and scotch tastings and miscellaneous drunken events and literally rolling out kegs in school hallways would create an unhealthy attitude towards drinking? Who knew!
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Shageletic posted:Who knew bar review, weekly on campus beer, wine, and scotch tastings and miscellaneous drunken events and literally rolling out kegs in school hallways would create an unhealthy attitude towards drinking? Who knew! One of the few things that changed from the student experience p.o.v. at my law school when it changed Deans during my time there is that the school went from tolerating all such things to actually buying us the drinks itself at receptions and socials and such once the new, non-Mormon, guy showed up.
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Shageletic posted:Who knew bar review, weekly on campus beer, wine, and scotch tastings and miscellaneous drunken events and literally rolling out kegs in school hallways would create an unhealthy attitude towards drinking? Who knew! the thing is that all sounds bad but you gotta remember it is after college so uh it’s kind of an improvement for many people the real issue is that being a lawyer can be stressful and people self-medicate
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evilweasel posted:the thing is that all sounds bad but you gotta remember it is after college so uh it’s kind of an improvement for many people That and expectations. A lot of people are in way worse professions, but the law profession is full of people (and I'm the same way honestly) that would rather focus on how much they're not living up to what they think they should be, instead of what they have. It's something endemic in the profession.
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Shageletic posted:That and expectations. A lot of people are in way worse professions, but the law profession is full of people (and I'm the same way honestly) that would rather focus on how much they're not living up to what they think they should be, instead of what they have. It's something endemic in the profession. Probably has a lot to do with the fact that everyone's classmates are making a broad range of money. If you graduate med school, you tend to make the same amount of money as your classmates, all things equal with specializations and the like. Meanwhile, in law school, if you're halfway socially competent, you have friends who are making $180,000 a year out of the box while you're making $60,000. Or less, for basically the same work Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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The arbitrary income difference is pretty wild. I used to work with a 70 year old lawyer who had done like 300 jury trials and was legitimately an expert trial attorney, and he would charge clients like $250 an hour because he was an insurance defense lawyer. Meanwhile at big firms some second year associate is billing $400/hr to read through 100 contracts and make a spreadsheet of their termination and assignment provisions.
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I got $22.50/hr on a 1099 contract and I’m the highest paid associate my former boss had ever had.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:The arbitrary income difference is pretty wild. I used to work with a 70 year old lawyer who had done like 300 jury trials and was legitimately an expert trial attorney, and he would charge clients like $250 an hour because he was an insurance defense lawyer. Meanwhile at big firms some second year associate is billing $400/hr to read through 100 contracts and make a spreadsheet of their termination and assignment provisions. Had he just not updated his billing rates since the turn of the century ?
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