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Barudak
May 7, 2007

Artelier posted:

Been a while, is there a mod for Dusk's episode 3 enemy? The scary (or at least, uncanny valley) one. You know the one. I had to stop my run when that guy was introduced because I was too on edge to progress. When I say a mod, iunno. Maybe something that makes it less creepy to me. Or tone down the sound a bit. Something.

Dusk was excellent for me till then! But I dropped it because I couldn't stand that enemy.

He looks like a funny little friend when you play the game on mute. He's kind of cute, really.


Gaspy Conana posted:

Do it. IMO Blood is the best Build game but the cultists can ruin it.

I made it to stage 2 and decided this could not continue so I've already done it. Nothing like a nice blind corner into death from both sides with cultists.

Also am I missing something or is it impossible to bounce dynamite around corners?

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catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Barudak posted:

Also am I missing something or is it impossible to bounce dynamite around corners?

Alt-fire puts it on a timer so you can bounce them.

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Barudak posted:

He looks like a funny little friend when you play the game on mute. He's kind of cute, really.

I made it to stage 2 and decided this could not continue so I've already done it. Nothing like a nice blind corner into death from both sides with cultists.

Also am I missing something or is it impossible to bounce dynamite around corners?

please don't tell me you played dusk muted

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Barudak posted:

Never played Blood before

Yeeaaahhh I'm just gonna mosey over here to this here "Made to Order" difficulty and turn that accuracy way down.

Do that, but also turn the enemy count to max. Keep damage levels at medium, though. It's still manageable, more chaotic and fun.

Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


Barudak posted:

He looks like a funny little friend when you play the game on mute. He's kind of cute, really.

Oh he's perfectly fine in stills. But in the game atmosphere with the sound and the sudden filling of the screen he just creeps me out too much for me to play and it stresses me out too much. :(

Barudak
May 7, 2007

FFXIV Porn posted:

please don't tell me you played dusk muted

Just episode 3

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

SeANMcBAY posted:

I hope there’s an official episode 4 for Dusk someday. It’s easily the best of all the new retro shooters.
I don't think there's gonna be a fourth episode, but they've hinted at some kind of alternate way to play the existing levels, a remix of the gameplay or something, on their to-do list.

crondaily
Nov 27, 2006

The Kins posted:

I don't think there's gonna be a fourth episode, but they've hinted at some kind of alternate way to play the existing levels, a remix of the gameplay or something, on their to-do list.

Isn't it co-op?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

So I quite like Prodeus, especially now that I can see things. The last 4 maps they've added are just head and shoulders over the first few maps, and if thats representative of the rest of the game, it'll be super lovely.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

crondaily posted:

Isn't it co-op?
Co-op is on the agenda but they were hinting at something else in one interview involving trying out your newfound powers from the ending.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

The Kins posted:

I don't think there's gonna be a fourth episode, but they've hinted at some kind of alternate way to play the existing levels, a remix of the gameplay or something, on their to-do list.

Personally I'm hoping for SUDS where everything is made out of soap. Licence to kill meets eldritch horror at bath time

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


I want a DUSK 2 so badly but I know duskdev Dave wanted to do his smaller games (like he did before DUSK) and he's also working on Gloomwood. Wouldn't be surprised if he's helping with Fallen Aces as well.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
What's the best way to buy Doom nowadays? I haven't played any wads in a long time and I have the itch

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

2house2fly posted:

What's the best way to buy Doom nowadays? I haven't played any wads in a long time and I have the itch

on Switch :hehe:

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!

2house2fly posted:

What's the best way to buy Doom nowadays? I haven't played any wads in a long time and I have the itch

gog or steam or whatever

here's the cheapest at the moment:
https://www.indiegala.com/store/game/doom-ii/2300?ref=itad

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Yeah, Blood isn't gonna be for me.

2house2fly posted:

What's the best way to buy Doom nowadays? I haven't played any wads in a long time and I have the itch

Gamepass.

But like if you need it to mod or whatever, just buy on GoG or whatever has it on sale

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



2house2fly posted:

What's the best way to buy Doom nowadays? I haven't played any wads in a long time and I have the itch

If you want insane amounts of custom maps and mods, on PC on Steam or GOG. It yas some add-ons on PS4/Xbox/Switch and the console ports are really good.

Buy and play Doom on everything

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
cool, I know Doom and Quake just got HD upgrades or whetever and was worried the steam/gog versions would be fatally compromised. good to know I can pull the trigger on a gog copy, so to speak

Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh
The Steam version gives you both the new port and the original DOS version. As far as I know the GOG one is just the old DOS version (which is enough if you're just going to be playing with unofficial source ports anyway).

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
The GOG versions don't (currently?) include the re-releases, and the Steam releases include the original versions (DOS for Doom, WinQuake/GLQuake for Quake 1).

Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021

Barudak posted:

Yeah, Blood isn't gonna be for me.

I bounced very hard off of Blood the first time I played it. The weapons all felt strange, and the zombies would keep waking up after I knocked them down. I didn't like it.

Then I reinstalled it on a whim and started to experiment with the weapons. I eventually came around to liking how I could fire the flare gun at one enemy and then spin around to the focus on the rest while putting both barrels into every zombie. Corralling enemies into splash-zone sized groups is also really fun. I can see how anyone would not be into how different Blood is, but I think it can be enjoyed if you try to not play it like other FPS games.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Play Blood with the Death Wish mod, it's better than most commercial FPS games

crondaily
Nov 27, 2006

Convex posted:

Play Blood with the Death Wish mod, it's better than most commercial FPS games

Do we have a SA agreed on way to best play Blood in 2021?

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Blood is probably the best build game, it has a great atmosphere and vibe without being as... flat? or racist as shadow warrior but still has a fun main character with a lot of personality that isn't as over the top as DN3D. Also the level design stays great whereas I feel like I feel like the levels in duke fall off in terms of quality after E1.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
A big new HL1 TC came out a couple days ago, Half Life Delta: https://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-delta

Anyone check it out? The guy's been working on it for over a decade but lord knows, that's not necessarily a mark of quality.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
a lot of the alt fires are way better at killing zombies. i think the shotgun alt fire kills them in one hit? and the flare gun alt fire definitely cooks them. on lightly broiled at least.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Baron von Eevl posted:

Blood is probably the best build game, it has a great atmosphere and vibe without being as... flat? or racist as shadow warrior but still has a fun main character with a lot of personality that isn't as over the top as DN3D. Also the level design stays great whereas I feel like I feel like the levels in duke fall off in terms of quality after E1.

Duke3D episode 3 has good urban levels imo. Episode 2 has the worst design. If you play Atomic, episode 4 is a mixed bag and oh boy I hate the final part of that one. World Tour is... OK I guess? I didn't like the old expansion packs.

Since Blood got the Fresh Supply release, I changed my mind in my favourite Build game and now leans towards Blood, but only with made to order settings, otherwise it can get really frustrating. Level design and atmosphere? The best by far and Death Wish is brilliant.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
I only kind of like regular Blood but Death Wish is genuinely one of the best fpseses I've ever played. I've played it through 3 times since last Halloween

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

crondaily posted:

Do we have a SA agreed on way to best play Blood in 2021?

I'd say Fresh Supply with the Made to Order difficulty, set cultist aggression to low then enemy count to max and... enjoy the fireworks :supaburn:

Rev. Melchisedech Howler
Sep 5, 2006

You know. Leather.

Convex posted:

I'd say Fresh Supply with the Made to Order difficulty, set cultist aggression to low then enemy count to max and... enjoy the fireworks :supaburn:

I'd only add that I'd also set their reaction time down a notch too, so you don't get them immediately knowing you're there when rounding a corner. Other than that, Blood is awesome like this

crondaily
Nov 27, 2006

Convex posted:

I'd say Fresh Supply with the Made to Order difficulty, set cultist aggression to low then enemy count to max and... enjoy the fireworks :supaburn:

What is the reason for the changes?

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!

crondaily posted:

What is the reason for the changes?

Cultists in Blood are notorious of being too fast and accurate with their hitscan weapons. Nerfing them a little makes the game more fun and lets you run and gun like you want instead of having to duck and cover every room

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

crondaily posted:

What is the reason for the changes?

Yeah, the main things that make Blood annoying are getting insta-killed by cultists the moment you walk round a corner and the killer doors of death. You either play normal difficulties and get used to scouting around corners with TNT at the ready for the whole game, or adjust the difficulty and actually enjoy it. (also fresh supply fixed the door problem)

crondaily
Nov 27, 2006
Thanks guys, sounds like my weekend plans are set.

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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I have beef with "actually enjoy it", because you can totally play Blood on normal difficulties, but you do have to adjust your mindset, and mostly for the first episode where it's really cultist heavy. Especially That Room in map 5 I think it was. You get used to it though, but if you wanna lower cultist aggression that's not a terrible idea it definitely makes the game less frustrating in parts.

A Worrying Warlock
Sep 21, 2009

Weird Sandwich posted:

Oh I didn't know you were a goon too, lmao. I highly recommend this as well, a lot of good spooky maps here. I also have a map here too but I freely admit it's one of the least good in it

Ha, I absolutely loved the atmosphere in your map and it's prequel last year.. The part with the archviles in the morgue...:eek:

Going to try a run through of the pack with Demonsteele soon, because I think the monsters would be perfect for that.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but after wondering what the hell was going on with the Blood + Doom (BLOOM) crossover mod for a few years now, it turns out that the final version released over Halloween:

https://www.moddb.com/mods/bloom-doomblood-crossover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWa5xVaIDHE

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
yeah i played blood on the default lightly broiled difficulty and it was still tons of fun. just hard and twitchy. every enemy being so dangerous makes it a really tense game.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Remember that crouching makes it harder for cultists to hit you in Blood as well.

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Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011
Count me in as another who loves Blood as-is.

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