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Acute Grill posted:During the heyday of Rage Critics, many were playing the persona of kinda dumb cartoon men but got bored of the schtick and moved on (see: James Rolfe) but there were also plenty of actual dumb cartoon men who could flourish in the same space until they tried to pivot to actual critique (see: Doug Walker) Doug specifically was never really much of an actual critic, so much as a bad sketch comedian propping up his material with funny clips from bad movies. One of the things that really propelled him to fame was his review of Tommy Wiseau's The Room, and I think it's honestly kind of a microcosm of Doug's brand: Take clips from a bad media property that are already funny on their own and intercut them with your own over-acted negative reactions. It doesn't matter if Doug's material is actually good or not because the clips of the film he's showing are usually entertaining enough to trick the viewer into thinking Doug himself is adding something to the experience.
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Nov 1, 2021 22:59
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Sephyr posted:It really is. dont forget shilling his lovely music which is probably the only reason he made the video in the first place KingKalamari posted:Doug specifically was never really much of an actual critic, so much as a bad sketch comedian propping up his material with funny clips from bad movies. One of the things that really propelled him to fame was his review of Tommy Wiseau's The Room, and I think it's honestly kind of a microcosm of Doug's brand: Take clips from a bad media property that are already funny on their own and intercut them with your own over-acted negative reactions. It doesn't matter if Doug's material is actually good or not because the clips of the film he's showing are usually entertaining enough to trick the viewer into thinking Doug himself is adding something to the experience. imo its important to remember Doug doesnt want to be a reviewer and hates the Nostalgia Critic. what he really wants to be is a serious actor and comedian but lacks the talent to be either despite his many attempts at trying 16-bit Butt-Head fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Nov 1, 2021 |
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Nov 1, 2021 23:00
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dont forget shilling his lovely music which is probably the only reason he made the video in the first place https://m.facebook.com/channelawesome/videos/pbs-make-em-laugh-commercial-feat-doug-walker/1604106823183453/?extid=SEO----
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Nov 1, 2021 23:06
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dont forget shilling his lovely music which is probably the only reason he made the video in the first place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEbf8YhTWEo
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Nov 1, 2021 23:28
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"lol so school sucks, grow a drat pair of balls." THIS IS WHAT DOUG ACTUALLY BELIEVES
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Nov 1, 2021 23:32
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Bug Squash posted:I tend to think Doug is just unable or unwilling to understand what any piece of art is, other than at the most superficial level. A second Ernest Cline. nine-gear crow posted:This is Doug's approach to basically everything he produces for public consumption: Comedy* Uber Alles. Unfortunately, his sense of humor is bad and dumb, so his jokes suck and fall flat and he's the type of comedian who responds to a joke bombing by leaning even harder into it with a dab of attacking the audience for not laughing mixed in. He's also intellectually lazy and incurious and has just been coasting for a long rear end time.
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Nov 1, 2021 23:40
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Marshal Radisic posted:I've never actually looked at the analytics, but I have this theory that the Nostalgia Critic's primary audience these days is kids ages 9-13. They start watching funny screaming internet man in late elementary school, stick with him in the middle grades, and drop him in high school when either his schtick finally wears thin or one of their smarter friends tells them how lame he is. They go, while another cohort of 9 year-olds jumps on and the process repeats, akin to how superhero comics used to work. (Mind you I have absolutely no idea if kids even watch the sorts of videos he makes anymore or if they've moved on to streamers or whatever.) Bump up the ages from 16-17 and getting tired of him when you hit college, that that was mostly my experience.
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Nov 1, 2021 23:55
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Dan cooking chicken nuggets is again in the "things I didn't know I needed" category.
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Nov 1, 2021 23:57
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Marshal Radisic posted:
Someone once described Pew Die Pies audience as "a revolving door of 12 year olds" (it actually may have been Dan Olsen who said that but I don't remember) and it wouldn't shock me if the same was true for Doug. It's gotta be. Every person I know who was a CA/NC fan isn't anymore and is actively embarrassed they ever watched him. Jamie Faith fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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Nov 1, 2021 23:59
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I would rather watch a video reenactment of one guy one jar than watch nc lmao
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Nov 2, 2021 00:10
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Neo_Crimson posted:Bump up the ages from 16-17 and getting tired of him when you hit college, that that was mostly my experience. Plus in my case I found better media criticism in post secondary than "TERRIBLE KIDS MOVIE RUINED MY CHILDHOOD" *bang bang explosion*
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Nov 2, 2021 00:33
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I stopped watching him 9 years ago when I realised he wasn't doing a bit, that manchild-persona was the real deal.
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Nov 2, 2021 00:56
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Speaking of media criticism and good media criticism, this is a cool video from a black video essayist, F.D Signifier, about Dave Chappelle's stupid transphobic screed in his latest comedy special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S42DJr95Dfw
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Nov 2, 2021 01:07
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Does he still have those two sidekicks who started cropping up in his skits after he 'rebooted' NC post-To Boldly Flee or did they get the axe/quit at some point?
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Nov 2, 2021 01:55
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Does he still have those two sidekicks who started cropping up in his skits after he 'rebooted' NC post-To Boldly Flee or did they get the axe/quit at some point? Nope. They're still there last time I checked. I'd pity them if they didn't defend CA's horrible sexist victim blame-y response during CtC.
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Nov 2, 2021 02:02
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Jamie Faith posted:Someone once described Pew Die Pies audience as "a revolving door of 12 year olds" (it actually may have been Dan Olsen who said that but I don't remember) and it wouldn't shock me if the same was true for Doug. It's gotta be. Every person I know who was a CA/NC fan isn't anymore and is actively embarrassed they ever watched him. people say this about pewdiepie but one time i said something about him in a bar to a friend about whatever recent nonsense he did, and a 20-something grown woman came over to me to tell me how i'd heard wrong from people who just want to cancel him and then pewdie-splained us for like 10 minutes and told us to give him another chance.
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Nov 2, 2021 02:35
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my mental image of that is killing me for some reason
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Nov 2, 2021 02:42
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did you get her number?
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Nov 2, 2021 02:53
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how does she feel about bollywood tunes
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Nov 2, 2021 03:17
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A classic. You know Doug thought everyone there saw him as the coolest guy ever when in reality they probably just went "uh wtf?" then got back to work. Ailumao posted:people say this about pewdiepie but one time i said something about him in a bar to a friend about whatever recent nonsense he did, and a 20-something grown woman came over to me to tell me how i'd heard wrong from people who just want to cancel him and then pewdie-splained us for like 10 minutes and told us to give him another chance.
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Nov 2, 2021 03:27
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Man, every time Doug comes up I remember in the first iteration of this thread back when it was in PYF, probably around 2011 or so. Back then the thread consensus was that while Doug certainly wasn't the best internet reviewer around, people generally still liked at least some of his stuff, even post-Demo Reel. I distinctly remember his Odd Life of Timothy Green and Wicker Man reviews getting some positive vibes around here. I forget if someone ITT or in a Youtube comment said it, but I feel like the best encapsulation of his decline is that internet comedy and Youtube video critiques have changed a lot since then, and Doug never really made an effort to catch up with the zeitgeist. Even thread favorites like Todd in the Shadows or Lindsay Ellis basically made the same types of videos back then, but unlike Doug they continued to hone their craft and get better and better over the years to the point where their current content is an entirely different animal. I'm honestly curious as to what types of people still watch and enjoy new NC videos these days -- he got big during the random epic bacon monkeycheese internet vibe that was huge with teenagers and young adults of the time, and people of that same age in 2021 have *completely* different senses of humor. Is it still people who liked him in the early 2010s and are in their 30s now?
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Nov 2, 2021 03:40
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Doug sucks so much he isn't even the biggest terrible film critic. CinemaSins are both much worse at everything attempted and way more popular.
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Nov 2, 2021 03:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtgdbucX3nc STEVE LIVES
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Nov 2, 2021 03:52
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ninjahedgehog posted:Man, every time Doug comes up I remember in the first iteration of this thread back when it was in PYF, probably around 2011 or so. Back then the thread consensus was that while Doug certainly wasn't the best internet reviewer around, people generally still liked at least some of his stuff, even post-Demo Reel. I distinctly remember his Odd Life of Timothy Green and Wicker Man reviews getting some positive vibes around here. Oh yeah! Its funny, I was looking at one of the older IP threads and saw people talking about how much fun Doug's latest NC review was and I felt like I fell into a wormhole that took me to an alternate reality or something. It's easy to forget how genuinely popular Doug was now that we're all grown up and know better. ninjahedgehog posted:I'm honestly curious as to what types of people still watch and enjoy new NC videos these days -- he got big during the random epic bacon monkeycheese internet vibe that was huge with teenagers and young adults of the time, and people of that same age in 2021 have *completely* different senses of humor. Is it still people who liked him in the early 2010s and are in their 30s now? Like we said before, the world never runs out of 14 year old boys with too much time on their hands and easy access to the internet. Altho I once responded to a channel awesome tweet promoting Dougs NC video on Duckman and how it "destroys political correctness" and got a rabid NC fan on my rear end lol. This was after CtC happened and I just wrote something simple like "Cringe lol" and then some weirdo made like, a 4 tweet response to me about how cancel culture is cancer and what a pathetic soyboy sjw I am and how triggered/ownd I am by Doug. So I guess the reactionary man children with poo poo taste demographic still like him too
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Nov 2, 2021 03:58
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Nuns with Guns posted:Speaking of media criticism and good media criticism, this is a cool video from a black video essayist, F.D Signifier, about Dave Chappelle's stupid transphobic screed in his latest comedy special: watched this when it premiered this afternoon good stuff as always! i really like fiq's black media analysis series
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Nov 2, 2021 03:59
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:
Speaking of that, this is Lady Emily's deep dive into Demo Reel, the failed attempt to escape the Nostalgia Critic and forced him to come crawling back after it crashed and burned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFIlUa6WYuM
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Nov 2, 2021 04:38
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Cold Milk Bottle posted:Doug sucks so much he isn't even the biggest terrible film critic. CinemaSins are both much worse at everything attempted and way more popular. Inversely, CinemaWins is infinitely better. It's not just "CimeaSins... but positive", the guy actually goes out of his way to examine the themes and imagery of each movie in explaining what he considers a "win". It's almost like a pointed gently caress you to its more popular antithesis channel. stillvisions posted:Speaking of that, this is Lady Emily's deep dive into Demo Reel, the failed attempt to escape the Nostalgia Critic and forced him to come crawling back after it crashed and burned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFIlUa6WYuM And remember, THIS was Doug at his artistic apex, at his most freely creative and libertine, able to finally do anything he wanted in whatever way he truly saw fit with no constrains, and it was a half-assed pile of crap. And then it turned out that the central theme of the whole work, the message he wanted to convey with it, the weight he wanted to get off his soul and into a medium where it could be enjoyed by others was... "I'm upset that Elizabeth Hartman killed herself after working on The Secret of NIMH." Okay. Like, it's a completely sincere expression, if you know anything about Doug, one of the few films he legitimately loves and actually understands is The Secret of NIMH--it's actually one of his few redeeming qualities. And Hartman's suicide casts an incredible shadow over it, one that Doug would no doubt feel legitimately upset over and would be driven to try and tackle in an artistic medium in order to try and process it. ...It's just that he's a loving shallow, talentless hack, so he stumbles over himself, shoots several other people in the foot trying to shoot himself in the foot, and does it in a way that comes off like he's just exploiting Hartman's death like the boneheads who made YIIK did with the death of Elisa Lam instead of trying to genuinely mourn it. If The Wall is a deep dive into Doug's mind, Demo Reel is the deep dive into Doug's soul, and neither prove a pool worth swimming in for very long.
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Nov 2, 2021 04:52
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That Mandalore video is the gift that keeps on giving. I tracked down what appears to be a legit copy of the leaked script for the rest of the game and it sure loving takes some turns after chapter 1 alright. Reading this might actually be bad for my mental health. Like I just had a hysterical laughing fit over nothing in particular after reading the part where Haze gets into an old-married-couple argument with the sister of a victim of one of the people he's killed, who spent 2 months impersonating a pedophile to trick him into meeting her and is now living in his house against his will to blackmail him into killing more pedophiles.
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Nov 2, 2021 04:58
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:That Mandalore video is the gift that keeps on giving. I tracked down what appears to be a legit copy of the leaked script for the rest of the game and it sure loving takes some turns after chapter 1 alright. i hope the success of mandalore's video spurs the creator on to finish the series
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Nov 2, 2021 05:02
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You want to know the really hosed part? That spoilered bit is from chapter 3. Chapter 2 is actually legitimately somewhat enjoyable. Like its still the same mix of cringe, melodrama and just, in general, weird poo poo you'd expect from the guy who wrote Anonymous Agony but its so much more tolerable seeing it all play out though the eyes of someone who acts like an actual human being instead of a cringe elemental. Like you have this big heartwarming ending about the healing power of positivity and friendship and then the first thing that happens in chapter 3 is Notacon hacking The Chip In Haze's Brain (don't worry everyone has one) so he can provide remote backup while the crazy Jesus axe-murder from the end of the chapter one chases him though the hospital.
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Nov 2, 2021 05:11
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:You want to know the really hosed part? That spoilered bit is from chapter 3. Chapter 2 is actually legitimately somewhat enjoyable. Like its still the same mix of cringe, melodrama and just, in general, weird poo poo you'd expect from the guy who wrote Anonymous Agony but its so much more tolerable seeing it all play out though the eyes of someone who acts like an actual human being instead of a cringe elemental. Like you have this big heartwarming ending about the healing power of positivity and friendship and then the first thing that happens in chapter 3 is Notacon hacking The Chip In Haze's Brain (don't worry everyone has one) so he can provide remote backup while the crazy Jesus axe-murder from the end of the chapter one chases him though the hospital. wait that's in Chapter 3? because there's a trailer video that went up in like 2020 for The Next Game In The Anonymous Agony Franchise and the trailer was that scene
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Nov 2, 2021 05:13
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I feel like there's definitely a plus for anything who does try and focus on the positive when it's there and talk about it, since purely negative videos often end up blowing the negative way out of proportion or just feel mean-spirited or clickbait now.
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Nov 2, 2021 05:20
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Jamie Faith posted:So I guess the reactionary man children with poo poo taste demographic still like him too I mean, Brad Jones is his best friend, yeah.
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Nov 2, 2021 05:34
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Alaois posted:wait that's in Chapter 3? because there's a trailer video that went up in like 2020 for The Next Game In The Anonymous Agony Franchise and the trailer was that scene I honestly don't know how much or if any of this poo poo will actually see the light of day and in what form, especially since this stuff is in the open now. Its a semi-public google doc (you can read and comment on it but only the owner can edit) and the original writer has apparently been making changes to it as early as yesterday. I can't find the video you're talking about but the fact that I apparently just described a scene from it verbatim despite never having seen it is frightening because it means this poo poo is more than just text on a word document. I did find the creators youtube page and it looks like there's a trailer for part 6 (!?) in there buried between recordings of his video game streams and loving around with his pet dogs.
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Nov 2, 2021 05:41
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Also most of tweens and teens who age out of liking Doug's stuff age into liking content by people like The Critical Drinker, who's just as shallow, unfunny and toxic as The Nostalgia Critic only somehow even MORE insufferable with even less effort put into it than Doug can manage.
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Nov 2, 2021 05:47
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nine-gear crow posted:Also most of tweens and teens who age out of liking Doug's stuff age into liking content by people like The Critical Drinker, who's just as shallow, unfunny and toxic as The Nostalgia Critic only somehow even MORE insufferable with even less effort put into it than Doug can manage. I stumbled onto a Critical Drinker video once and it did take a second video to realize he was just part of the trash heap who were Very Upset About Captain Marvel Which Is To Say Brie Larson Is a Woman. He also talks like he's constipated, which I put down to the drinking. On Doug, I did in fact as somebody mentioned above figure it was just shtick until he had that bout of reviewing movies "as himself" with his brother and no, he doesn't really get movies.
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Nov 2, 2021 06:03
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Dawgstar posted:I stumbled onto a Critical Drinker video once and it did take a second video to realize he was just part of the trash heap who were Very Upset About Captain Marvel Which Is To Say Brie Larson Is a Woman. He also talks like he's constipated, which I put down to the drinking. To be fair, he also hates minorities, gay people, trans people, and anyone to the left of Joseph McCarthy politically. Guy's got a vast swath of things he gets drunkenly mad about and a legion of fans more than willing to brigade you into oblivion in order to be the first one in line to tell you that you just misunderstand him. Which... I guess is a valid defense, I've watched like five minutes of his stuff in total and the only words out of his mouth I think I understood were the pronouns and prepositions. Dawgstar posted:On Doug, I did in fact as somebody mentioned above figure it was just shtick until he had that bout of reviewing movies "as himself" with his brother and no, he doesn't really get movies. Rob is definitely the better Movie Understander of the Brothers Walker and even he's a gobsmacking point-missing dipshit more often than he's not. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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Nov 2, 2021 06:13
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Ailumao posted:people say this about pewdiepie but one time i said something about him in a bar to a friend about whatever recent nonsense he did, and a 20-something grown woman came over to me to tell me how i'd heard wrong from people who just want to cancel him and then pewdie-splained us for like 10 minutes and told us to give him another chance. I've met someone adamant that all the claims about Vic Mignogna are false and people are just jealous of his success.
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Nov 2, 2021 07:19
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I've met someone adamant that all the claims about Vic Mignogna are false and people are just jealous of his success. Vic's had an extremely rabid fanbase for actual decades by now, lot of people drank the koolaid on him.
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