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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

skewetoo posted:

Want to know what that teacher who the media is refusing to name was teaching. Canadian history would be a good one. Or French. :munch:

If you mean the teacher who was wearing blackface for a Halloween costume, the media named him and he was teaching Business.

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skewetoo
Mar 30, 2003

Arivia posted:

If you mean the teacher who was wearing blackface for a Halloween costume, the media named him and he was teaching Business.

:eng99:

skewetoo
Mar 30, 2003

Got the curriculum all wrong. You put on blackface AFTER you join the old boys club

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
maybe it was for the part about marketing? he seems to be getting plenty of attention

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Arivia posted:

If you mean the teacher who was wearing blackface for a Halloween costume, the media named him and he was teaching Business.

lol as if "business" could ever be a real school subject, nice try

The Vinja Ninja
Mar 16, 2006

Sometimes, time beats you.
It’s been a weird day, my friends from Iqaluit, are posting about how this is the first winter in hundreds of years without snow in November, and white Canadians from the south are trying to say that “it’s normal, you get that I’m in Nova Scotia and Labrador and that’s normal!”

It’s so painfully dumb. I’m feeling like the internet has brought back the dark ages

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

vyelkin posted:

lol as if "business" could ever be a real school subject, nice try

they had it in my day so it's a real subject

now this newfangled "critical race theory" stuff, that's all complete horseshit created by the NDP to attack old stock canadians

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
im founding the new field of critical business theory, or CBT for short

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

Critical Business Theory https://twitter.com/CFIB/status/1455550451974393859?t=OKn78D-Hu3Ddh0tDveU2Iw&s=19

:qq: they can't actually be expected to actually pay above minimum wages :qq:

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

vyelkin posted:

im founding the new field of critical business theory, or CBT for short

ironically i'm in a class on critical race theory right now actually

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Drunk Canuck posted:

Critical Business Theory https://twitter.com/CFIB/status/1455550451974393859?t=OKn78D-Hu3Ddh0tDveU2Iw&s=19

:qq: they can't actually be expected to actually pay above minimum wages :qq:

note: we are struggling to find workers because we refuse to pay above minimum wage

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

infernal machines posted:

note: we are struggling to find workers because we refuse to pay above minimum wage

no one wants to work anymore!!

DirtyRobot
Dec 15, 2003

it was a normally happy sunny day... but Dirty Robot was dirty

Drunk Canuck posted:

Critical Business Theory https://twitter.com/CFIB/status/1455550451974393859?t=OKn78D-Hu3Ddh0tDveU2Iw&s=19

:qq: they can't actually be expected to actually pay above minimum wages :qq:

womp womp

https://twitter.com/CFIB/status/1455572750698000388

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




The Vinja Ninja posted:

It’s been a weird day, my friends from Iqaluit, are posting about how this is the first winter in hundreds of years without snow in November, and white Canadians from the south are trying to say that “it’s normal, you get that I’m in Nova Scotia and Labrador and that’s normal!”

It’s so painfully dumb. I’m feeling like the internet has brought back the dark ages

I mean, growing up there and paying attention since has had me watching the winter move later every year in Yellowknife. I can only imagine its just as if not moreso a sharp but steady draw forward over time there.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Noblesse Obliged posted:

we were but please do go on and explain why your ethno nationalism is now justifiable

Venomous posted:

for all this talk of Quebec being utter dogshit, I'd say that Duplessis was History's Greatest Monster if that wasn't just Great Man History, because even if Duplessis hadn't entered politics, someone would have filled that shitlord quasi-dictator void anyway

There's actually two very distinct strain of Québec Separatism, one ethno-nationalist as represented by noted monster Duplessis and our current racist poo poo-heads, and one anti-Imperialist and anti-Colonialist, going from the Parti Patriote in the 19th century (whose leadership was very mixed in french and irish and scots and more) and the marxists of the 60s. The RIN, the first pro-Independance party, was socialist and one could see Québec Solidaire as it's inheritor. The FLQ, the terrorists who kidnapped a diplomat and murdered a minister, were Marxists who fled to Cuba.

The Parti Québecois tried to merge both strains with the goal of getting Independance first and figuring out the rest later, and it killed the Québec left for decades.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Drunk Canuck posted:

Critical Business Theory https://twitter.com/CFIB/status/1455550451974393859?t=OKn78D-Hu3Ddh0tDveU2Iw&s=19

:qq: they can't actually be expected to actually pay above minimum wages :qq:

Anyone who complains about minimum wage should be forced to live off of it for the rest of their lives.

Alberta upped its min wage from $10 to $15 and the only businesses that closed were restaurants that were most likely just money laundering/tax evasion schemes

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
any business that says "closed due to worker shortage" deserves to go out of business

if you're so loving poo poo at being a takeout restaurant in an era where more people than ever are ordering takeout that you need to be closed two weekdays because you can't figure out how to pay people more you're the dumbest sack of loving rocks in human skin ever to steal oxygen from functional humans

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
you don't understand! if i pay people more i'm going to make less money, which i am entitled to because that's how businesses work!

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Kazinsal posted:

any business that says "closed due to worker shortage" deserves to go out of business

if you're so loving poo poo at being a takeout restaurant in an era where more people than ever are ordering takeout that you need to be closed two weekdays because you can't figure out how to pay people more you're the dumbest sack of loving rocks in human skin ever to steal oxygen from functional humans

But I own Capital! That means I'm legally entitled to serfs who feel blessed to work for me!

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
the cfib is a libertarian think tank

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
Doug Ford is going Bismarck and raising the minimum wage to $15. Wonder what stupid and ineffectual response the ONDP will have to that.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

StealthArcher posted:

I mean, growing up there and paying attention since has had me watching the winter move later every year in Yellowknife. I can only imagine its just as if not moreso a sharp but steady draw forward over time there.
Oh hey what's up. Maybe I know you.

First Halloween in Yellowknife that I can remember without snow on the ground. :smith:

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

ToxicAcne posted:

Doug Ford is going Bismarck and raising the minimum wage to $15. Wonder what stupid and ineffectual response the ONDP will have to that.

that's all well and good, but this minimum wage rise will be completely wiped out by the real scourge of the working class: atm fees

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
l gently caress mao

https://www.hilltimes.com/2021/11/0...ing-jobs/326954

quote:

Erin O’Toole’s stance on COVID-19 vaccinations hurt the Conservative Party’s recent election campaign and remains a divisive internal issue as a group of 15 to 30 Conservative MPs and Senators is set to start a new inter-party caucus on Nov. 8 called the “Civil Liberties Caucus” that Conservative MP Marilyn Gladu says will speak up for anti-vaxxers who are losing their jobs for refusing to get the shot.

The idea to start this caucus came at a social gathering of Parliamentarians early last month in Ottawa, after the first post-election caucus meeting, Ms. Gladu (Sarnia-Lambton, Ont.) told The Hill Times. At the time, a number of caucus members expressed concerns about some of their constituents losing their jobs in a variety of professions for refusing to get vaccinated. With House committees seeming unlikely to meet until February, the three-term MP said there’s no parliamentary forum in the interim where MPs can have a serious discussion on this issue. Ms. Gladu said this is the reason “like-minded” MPs and Senators decided to start this caucus.

Since that meeting, Mvs. Gladu said some Conservatives MPs and Senators have had four zoom meetings to discuss the path forward to highlight this issue and what they can do to encourage employers to find a “reasonable accommodation” for these workers. In her own Ontario riding, she said, 18 nurses lost their jobs last week for refusing to get vaccinated. Ms. Gladu suggested rather than firing people from their jobs, employers can use rapid tests to determine whether staff are COVID-19 positive, or transfer them to positions that do not involve contact with patients. On Nov. 8, in the evening, she said some Conservative MPs and Senators are meeting online to finalize the nuts and bolts of how they want to run this caucu

Ms. Gladu said the House committee approach is under consideration as a model to follow, whereby the caucus could invite experts to guide members about possible solutions. The caucus is considering launching a Facebook page to provide updates to their constituents about the caucus’ work and may invite them to participate, she said. She said the group has not formally informed Mr. O’Toole or the opposition leader’s office about this caucus as it’s an informal group and it’s not unusual for Parliamentarians to start caucuses on issues of interest. She also said that it’s highly unlikely that the leadership would try to it shut down as there are other caucuses on “controversial” issues, such as the pro-life caucus that has been in existence for years.
Canadians’ rights ‘are being encroached’ on: Gladu

Ms. Gladu denied the “Civil Liberties Caucus” is aimed to undermine or challenge Mr. O’Toole’s leadership and said she hoped other federal parties don’t exploit this issue as the caucus members are only trying to help their constituents. The group chose “civil liberties” as a name, she explained, because they believe Canadians who don’t want to be vaccinated are not getting fair treatment, and losing their jobs is a violation of their rights.

“I would really encourage every MP to listen to constituents in their ridings, because across the country, people are concerned about these things,” said Ms. Gladu, who declined to share the names of other caucus members until next week.

“Our job as MPs is to raise the issues that our constituents are bringing, and ask the important questions and get the experts in on it, and set a path to take action to make sure that people’s rights and freedoms are protected. And that’s why we’re sort of looking at the name of civil liberties. I mean, it’s basically these are the areas where we feel people’s [rights] are being encroached.”

However, she conceded that being a member of this group could also affect an MPs’ prospects of promotion in the party’s shadow cabinet, noting it’s a possibility that every member has to consider before joining the group. Ms. Gladu said that the membership of this caucus could grow beyond 30.

“That is possible, and people will have to choose what their priorities are,” said Ms. Gladu, adding that the only reason this caucus started is to help out constituents. “No, I don’t think that this is very controversial. Honestly, these are issues that are being raised by our constituents, and we were put here to basically represent their needs and make sure that those issues are raising in government, and that’s what we’re doing.”

According to the recently announced new rules of the House Board of Internal Economy, anyone who is not vaccinated cannot enter parliamentary buildings or the Chamber. The Liberal, NDP. and Bloc Québécois have publicly announced that their caucus members are fully vaccinated. But, on the Conservative side, there are some MPs who are not vaccinated. The number however is unknown. According to a survey by CBC of all Conservative MPs, 81 said they are fully vaccinated, three declined to share their vaccination status and 35 did not respond.

The Conservative Party’s official position is that it will follow the House rules, but plan to challenge the edict as a point of privilege in the House on the grounds that MPs should be making these rules, not the nine-member all-party Board of Internal Economy.

Some Conservative caucus sources told The Hill Times last week that these unvaccinated MPs will try to enter the building and it will become an issue that will yet again highlight the party’s internal divisions on the topic. And if that happens, that could result in caucus expulsions.

“I’ll tell you this: Nov. 22, can be a very interesting day,” said one Conservative MP who spoke to The Hill Times on not for attribution basis to offer their candid opinion. “Because I believe there are Conservative Members of Parliament who are unvaccinated who are going to try and get into the Parliament buildings anyways. So, they’re not going to follow the rules, despite what we’ve decided as a caucus. And what happens after that? I think they’re going to be kicked out of caucus.”
Election performance review end date up in the air

After this, Conservative sources said the next date to watch for is former Conservative MP James Cumming review report of the party’s election performance. At the first caucus meeting after the election, all caucus members were told that Mr. Cumming, who lost his seat in the Sept. 20 election, will conduct a comprehensive review of the last election and present his report to the leader by Dec. 31 and the leader will share this report with the caucus.

Last week, Mr. Cumming told The Hill Times that he is trying to complete his report as soon as he can. But, considering that the holiday season is starting next month, he was not sure if he would be able to complete the report by Dec. 31. Mr. Cumming declined to say when he would submit his report. For his review, Mr. Cumming said that so far he has talked to about 50 people, including candidates, MPs, campaign managers, staff who were directly involved in the campaign and some who were not. These conversations involve both in-person and phone conversations. He said that he has one staffer who is helping him with co-ordination and documentation of these meetings. Mr. Cumming said that he might be reimbursed for his expenses but said that it’s not decided whether he would get paid for his time spent on this report.

“I haven’t picked an end date yet,” said Mr. Cumming. “But I would tell you that again, my drive is to make sure that it’s comprehensive and that it’s based upon I’ve received enough information, be able to prepare a good report?”
New group makes O’Toole ‘look weak,’ says pollster

The vaccination issue was one of the key reasons the Conservatives failed to unseat the Liberal government in the last election, according to Greg Lyle, president of Innovative Research. Even now, the party is divided, and he said a new caucus speaking up for Canadians who don’t want to get vaccinated will be seen as a challenge to Mr. O’Toole’s leadership. He said that a clear majority of Canadians are in support of vaccination and Conservative Party is divided, so it portrays Mr. O’Toole as a weak leader. It appears Mr. O’Toole is trying to downplay the issue, he said, while some of the caucus members are highlighting it, making it difficult for the party to win next time.

“It’s pretty much a direct leadership challenge to Erin O’Toole,” said Mr. Lyle, a prominent pollster. “Which makes him look weak, which doesn’t help him in his competition if he stays on as leader. And No. 2, it’s offside with the vast majority of Canadians. … Given that O’Toole said he is going to respect the ruling, it’s a direct attack on his leadership, there’s just no other way to look at it.”

Conservative sources said that there are a lot of conversations happening within the caucus as to the possibility of holding a caucus review of Mr. O’Toole. At this time, they said, it appears a third of the caucus is on the leader’s side, a third is against the leader, and a third is in wait and see mode. They said that one reason some caucus members are undecided is because they don’t seen a prominent person willing to run for the party leadership who could succeed Mr. O’Toole and win the next election. But others say, right now, the leader’s position is not open, and no one knows who the potential candidates are. Once the position opens up, they said, there will be candidates who can win the next election for the party.

“The ballot question cannot be who’s in the wings,” said a senior Conservative. “The ballot question has to be, can O’Toole win or not? That’s got to be the ballot question. If that seat [leader’s position] becomes available, then there’ll be plenty of people stepping forward.”

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

who needs the ppc

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

do these idiot realize that the people who don't want to get vaccinated are a quite small minority of canadians, one whose numbers are trivial to find, and absolutely will not get them enough votes to offset the ones they'll lose over the issue?

no, of course not, but still...

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG



I'm sure the Chairman appreciates your efforts!

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Maybe they could just have a bunch of large in-person meetings in small boardrooms with all those affected by these layoffs. Then it would all work itself out.

(no, not really, don't do this)

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



"freedom!" says the party that want to strip women and trans people of rights and healthcare.

ghosthorse
Dec 15, 2011

...you forget so easily...
The Canadian Conservative Party: Freedom for MeHe, Not for TheeShe

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-india-canada-international-student-recruitment/

A while back I posted an article about the class differences in the Pakistani community. Here's an article that's about the Sikh community, more specifically the international students studying in colleges in Brampton and elsewhere. Some food for thought and a reminder that class differences exist in minority communities as well.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

ToxicAcne posted:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-india-canada-international-student-recruitment/

A while back I posted an article about the class differences in the Pakistani community. Here's an article that's about the Sikh community, more specifically the international students studying in colleges in Brampton and elsewhere. Some food for thought and a reminder that class differences exist in minority communities as well.

"Editor’s note: An earlier version of this story included quotes from a Brampton Councillor who has been sanctioned by city council. It has been updated to remove the references."

wonder what that's about

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014

Arivia posted:

"Editor’s note: An earlier version of this story included quotes from a Brampton Councillor who has been sanctioned by city council. It has been updated to remove the references."

wonder what that's about

It's about this dude.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...punishment.html

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

all of the counselling in the world won’t make up for the negatives here: the atomization and lack of social life being a college student in Brampton in the bitter winter

attracting international students has always been a racket, and the pain these people experience reflects directly the pure poo poo that constitutes existing as a young student with high rent and no prospects

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

a primate posted:

the pain these people experience reflects directly the pure poo poo that constitutes existing in brampton

i lived there for 22 years.

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
It's probably the most poorly designed suburb in the GTA. Huge tracts of housing where you have to drive 10 minutes to a shopping plaza to get anything. No amenities or anything and just one movie theatre in a city of more than half a million people. No sidewalks in large chunks of the city too. loving NIMBY's also cancelled the portion of the LRT that was supposed to go to downtown Brampton.

I feel like ethnic politics in the city gently caress up stuff the most. If you ever canvass there, people will tell you that they are voting for xyz because he's their brother's wife's cousin or whatever. Women will straight up tell you that they have to ask their husband who they are voting and the elderly will tell you they have to ask their kids. That is a terrible barrier to building class politics in a place that probably has the greatest concentration of blue collar workers in the GTA.

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

the gta is mega cursed by horrible planning. I drive 15 minutes to work everyday and see only houses, gas stations, more houses, and the odd dry cleaners

Brampton is all that plus lots of industrial zoning and truck traffic

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

infernal machines posted:

i lived there for 22 years.

at least the food’s good

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

a primate posted:

at least the food’s good

yeah, there is that. it's too bad they're scattered all over the city and even with the vastly improved zum service, it is still a colossal pain in the rear end to get anywhere that isn't on main or queen

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a primate
Jun 2, 2010

infernal machines posted:

yeah, there is that. it's too bad they're scattered all over the city and even with the vastly improved zum service, it is still a colossal pain in the rear end to get anywhere that isn't on main or queen

I’ve never taken züm but I was impressed by the branding/aesthetic vs the ugly mi-way busses

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