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Powershift posted:The average car loan is over $600/month in the US now. Texans dot png. I know people who do this repeatedly because they think a couple months of working 70 hours a week means they've 'made it' and wait what do you mean I'm only working 40 now i just bought a four wheeler, trailer and F-350 to tow it all
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Texans dot png. Oil field workers are real bad about this. They think it’s never going to end.
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skipdogg posted:There needs to be some sort of disclosure or limit on how much the dealer can markup the buy rate on the loan. why do you hate  this opens up a whole CFPB can of worms but basically: if you aren't marking up loans in a discriminatory way, you are OK. And stupid financially illiterate mother fuckers are not a protected class.
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Yea; you're paying for the convenience of not finding financing yourself. I hate dealerships as much as the next guy... But if you agreed to a 13% loan on a brand-new 50K+ car that's on you dude.
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Zero One posted:https://twitter.com/fordperformance/status/1455308923226005513?s=21 "So we got a call for a Bronco Desert Racer stuck in the sand... Lizzie will be driving it"
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Residency Evil posted:iirc some states do have this and iirc that number is still something bonkers like 10-20%. In NY at least, the typical max finance bump is 2%. Some banks allow less. It’s wild how bad auto loan protections are in other states. dk2m posted:“CR found someone from Texas who bought a new Chevrolet Suburban in January 2019 with a loan from GM Financial. Despite what CR calls a "prime credit score," this borrower ended up with a 13.55 percent APR and a monthly payment of $1628 for more than six years. That means an overall payment of more than $122,000 for a vehicle with a value of $71,148.” There is a non zero chance the back end of that deal is absolutely stuffed with extended warranty, tire and wheel, paint protection, maintenance etc to ballon the payment up that high.
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Tom Guycot posted:This is me at the moment. fwiw from a random nobody internet rear end in a top hat, assuming it's in good properly maintained condition revving the piss out of an engine won't hurt it unless you're bouncing off the rev limiter constantly, and even that will take time to do any excessive wear what’s important is to not drive the car hard until it’s fully warmed up to operating temperature Wheeee fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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I forgot about this until today, I wonder if anyone posted about it at the time? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Generation_Delivery_Vehicle  Should enter service maybe 2023 for USPS, I bet later. Looks like an angry bug? Also of note, kind of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7-scO-gUtA Inner Light fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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Nidhg00670000 posted:I don't have time RN to do an internet dive for this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I've got it in my head that the SST is closely related to the DPS6? the SST is a Getrag DCT470 and variants of it exist in Fiat, Chrysler, Volvos and some Fords but it is not exactly DPS6 from what I understand. the DPS6 is a dry clutch, mines wet. the 2013 and onwards evos have an updated valvebody which is supposed to be a bit better. its one of the earlier designs of a DCT so it is fairly prone to the common problems of DCTs like poor low speed engagement/jerking and weird shifting behaviour, but regular fluid changes with the correct type of fluid seem to be all thats really necessary to keep it out of trouble. like I said, if i did a basic mod + tune (exhaust, intake, some piping) to get another 60kW at the wheels, the transmission would then be the next failure point. the common problems with them are, I believe, mostly solved with newer DCTs from VAG etc that keep the clutch pack fluid and the transmission fluid separate (to prevent the ferrous debris from the steels in the clutch packs becoming suspended in the transmission fluid which circulates around the magnets the TCU uses to sense what the shift forks are doing) at factory power with 1-2 track days and a handful of angry street driving adventures a year I've been trouble free besides the quirks of owning a DCT as mentioned. occasionally it will get stuck in 'gear limbo' where it says its in 2nd but its really just looking for 2nd coming from 3rd while the box is cold, but its easily mitigated by just driving in manual mode at least til the box is warm.
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Tom Guycot posted:This is me at the moment. That engine is crying. For real. Take it to 8000 like god intended.
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That motor will take a thrashing. Don’t beat on it while it’s cold, make sure the oil stays topped up, and drive the balls off of it. If it breaks at redline there is a problem with it that is just as likely to break it at 4500.
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fknlo posted:That engine is crying. For real. Take it to 8000 like god intended. Once you do it a few times you'll feel comfortable with it and won't want to stop Want my next car to actually feel like it's doing something if I rev it out- tiny turbo spools up really early in the revrange and is absolutely out of breath by the time I hit redline. I mean it makes the car more "drivable" since the torque is on tap so early on and I feel like this is the general way engines are designed. Put all the torque down low and make 20% pedal depression 100% actual throttle. Makes it "feel faster".
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fknlo posted:That engine is crying. For real. Take it to 8000 like god intended. Seriously. If 5k caused engine problems, the redline would be 4k. The redline means "it's safe to operate the engine at any speed below this." Use as much of that rev range as you want.
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The entire point of Honda’s vtec offerings is to have them in the vtec rpm range all of the time. It’s where they make their power and get fun. I’m not sure if I’ve ever driven my S2000 and not taken it 8000rpm at least once
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My Fit actually starts to vibrate in weird ways at over 5k rpm. Since I rebuilt the transmission myself I'm not entirely confident that it's not going to a actually blow up. The redline is 6k so it's not like I'm losing much though.
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fknlo posted:The entire point of Honda’s vtec offerings is to have them in the vtec rpm range all of the time. It’s where they make their power and get fun. I’m not sure if I’ve ever driven my S2000 and not taken it 8000rpm at least once I remember someone insisting I was going to blow the engine in my 07 Si because I dared to rev it all the way to 4k rpm in front of them.
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When my uncle worked as an Acura mechanic, customers would come in complaining of hesitation and rough running and they would just take the cars out and give them an "Italian tuneup". Basically beat the poo poo out of them to clear out carbon and such that built up never revving the thing beyond 3000 RPM.
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Converse to all this is the guy I knew who would daily his E92 M3 even during winter and would punch it to redline 30 seconds after he started it up. He did this once after we both were leaving and I visibly winced, expecting to hear the whole thing to blow up from a seized bearing but somehow, he’s still fine after 3 years
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i own every Bionicle posted:That motor will take a thrashing. Don’t beat on it while it’s cold, make sure the oil stays topped up, and drive the balls off of it. If it breaks at redline there is a problem with it that is just as likely to break it at 4500. Yup, if the engine is going to die it'll do it at whatever RPM and it's a HONDA, people have been kicking the poo poo out of their engines for decades and I'm not sure I've heard many stories of them dying despite being pinged off the rev limiter for ages at a time doing burnouts and such. Exhibit A your honour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-2Kg0lBkk I'd rather my engine die doing something fun than tootling around going to the shops or something. Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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Yuck. Within $500 of a Toyobaru. Probably about the same as the (ugly) new WRX.
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Don't get excited, it's a SEMA car  It does look bitchin' though
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Yup, if the engine is going to die it'll do it at whatever RPM and it's a HONDA, people have been kicking the poo poo out of their engines for decades and I'm not sure I've heard many stories of them dying despite being pinged off the rev limiter for ages at a time doing burnouts and such. That’s me
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Jeep Created a Super-Wrangler With Three Rows of Seats Getting through that tiny rear door to the third row will sure be fun.
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Ok, here's one good thing to come out of SEMA this year. https://twitter.com/jimfarley98/status/1455600324203487235?t=0asBD3HEF2gS1VhJ7ZYMEg&s=19
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Deteriorata posted:Getting through that tiny rear door to the third row will sure be fun. oh, i wouldn't want to put humans in the back. I'd yank those seats out if they dont fold flat. I like the overall look of the vehicle though.
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Thread posted:you dummy Yeah, I'm trying to remind myself its not filled with unstable nitroglycerine, and it needs to rev up a bit to not drive like a geo metro at 2500rpm or feel like its going to stall, but its been so long since I drove this car regularly, it starts to get loud and I get scared instinctively. I've never been a petrol head, so I appreciate the reassurances of "you're not going to break it by revving it past 4000rpm".
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Tom Guycot posted:Yeah, I'm trying to remind myself its not filled with unstable nitroglycerine, and it needs to rev up a bit to not drive like a geo metro at 2500rpm or feel like its going to stall, but its been so long since I drove this car regularly, it starts to get loud and I get scared instinctively. I've never been a petrol head, so I appreciate the reassurances of "you're not going to break it by revving it past 4000rpm". I feel like semi-regular trips to the redline (after warming up obvs) is probably good for the engine, idk if it's actually true but I feel like for direct-injection engines it might help prevent too much carbon buildup on the intake valves. I mean if you count up the minutes the engine spends at redline vs around 2000 RPM it's probably only close to redline for way less than 0.1% of the time, so I don't think it's going to be a significant contributor to wear.
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McTinkerson posted:Ok, here's one good thing to come out of SEMA this year. Be still my beating heart.
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dk2m posted:Converse to all this is the guy I knew who would daily his E92 M3 even during winter and would punch it to redline 30 seconds after he started it up. He did this once after we both were leaving and I visibly winced, expecting to hear the whole thing to blow up from a seized bearing but somehow, he’s still fine after 3 years Some (all?) of the modern M cars limit the redline until the engine temperature rises to an appropriate level, specifically for people like this guy I guess.
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Throatwarbler posted:Some (all?) of the modern M cars limit the redline until the engine temperature rises to an appropriate level, specifically for people like this guy I guess. the 2zzge is that way. won't let you go into lift/ cut you off at 7k unless there is sufficient oil temperature and oil pressure. then you get to go to 8.4k
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I rev the piss out of my Fit and it loves it, now I did have the transmission mounts replaced under warranty though, that was the only issue.
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The KA24E in the Nissan Hardbody is a weird one. Red line on the tach is like 5600, but you can wind it all the way to 6500 or so before the fuel cut kicks in. Note there is absolutely no reason to rev a KA24E past 5000rpm.
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I think it's less "loud noises = stuff breaking" for most people and more "loud noises scare me".Powershift posted:Also why modern stock throttle tunes give you 90% throttle at 10% pedal. It also has the double whammy of making cars feel more powerful than they actually are.
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bull3964 posted:When my uncle worked as an Acura mechanic, customers would come in complaining of hesitation and rough running and they would just take the cars out and give them an "Italian tuneup". Basically beat the poo poo out of them to clear out carbon and such that built up never revving the thing beyond 3000 RPM. Even if you drive on a track, you can't get the places that get carbon build up hot enough to "clear out carbon". That's a myth.
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One of the annoying things about owning a DI motor without port injection was the 40K walnut blasts to clear out carbon build up. I don’t have the pictures anymore but my tuner showed me pure gunk on the valves and that was just after 30k miles. EGR valves really don’t help either but unless you live in a state that doesn’t test emissions, can’t remove that poo poo. Revving it doesn’t do much in that scenario.
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McTinkerson posted:Ok, here's one good thing to come out of SEMA this year. Too bad they ruined the interior. https://twitter.com/fordperformance/status/1455592156794658822?s=21
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Zero One posted:Too bad they ruined the interior. Wow, that... god dammit that's terrible. Ugh.
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