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Raskolnikov38 posted:is there oil or some rare fish around the falklands? why does anyone care much about rocks with ~3k people on them
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 12:08 |
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not sure about how important fish are, although they do have them and apparently lots of squid
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Raskolnikov38 posted:is there oil or some rare fish around the falklands? why does anyone care much about rocks with ~3k people on them there might be but it's never been drilled iirc, in part because of how isolated it is and how difficult extraction would be and in part because of the complexities around the international situation. thatcher certainly wasn't doing it for oil given it's what 40 years later and we haven't exploited it yet. the falklands was also colonized several times historically and just straight up abandoned on the basis of being totally worthless, lol. iirc that's the legal claim Argentina has. the junta wanted a quick propaganda victory more or less on pretty border and nationalist logic, and thatcher immediately correctly identified an opportunity for Britain and herself to go to war while not being painted as the aggressor (for the first time in history).
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 12:10 |
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also fun fact about the falklands is they made a literal warzone and ships ostentatiously at war would sit outside it before they were ready to fight and pop in when they wanted to start shooting each other. if i recall the Argentinians tried one attack outside of it, they sent saboteurs to a Spanish port to mine a British warship in port, the cops pulled them over to find a bunch of fuckin sea mines in the trunk and Spain more or less went "holy poo poo i do not want this in my backyard" and expelled them without telling anyone or making a fuss, lol. e: actually looking it up the General Belgrano was also technically outside of it. just the weirdest fuckin thing
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 12:25 |
I have posted this too many times but it's still my favorite military operation ever, I can't believe it actually happened. The British people are completely deranged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5yAtuYPHK4
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Pryor on Fire posted:I have posted this too many times but it's still my favorite military operation ever, I can't believe it actually happened. The British people are completely deranged: I read once about RAF bomber squadrons post-WW2 and how nuclear-armed Vulcan squadrons did nightly runs towards Soviet airspace in case the cold war went hot, and while they normally turned back the operational idea was that if they got a go signal it'd be a suicide mission because the Vulcans didn't have the range to get there and get back and also they didn't expect there to be any British airfields to land on afterwards. so the crews all ended up with extreme PTSD from the stress of not knowing if they were going on a one-way trip every time they climbed into the cockpit every night lol so yeah, deranged
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https://mobile.twitter.com/SameeraKhan/status/1451910940547600387
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 22:22 |
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Can anyone recommend a good book about the first Sino Japanese War?
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 02:45 |
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Maximo Roboto posted:Why was the First Gulf War imperialist? Bush's ambassador hosed up an avoidable war, but that aside wasn't it also defensive war against authoritarian aggression, that had sanction from the international community? I asked about this and didn't get much of an answer but I thought about it for a bit and I'm leaning towards Bush gave Saddam the green light to invade so he could start the war. Seems about on par for an ex CIA director.
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 05:31 |
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remember that blurry TAM pic of "people and bikes lied down on the road, therefore they must have died"
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 05:51 |
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Weka posted:I asked about this and didn't get much of an answer but I thought about it for a bit and I'm leaning towards Bush gave Saddam the green light to invade so he could start the war. Seems about on par for an ex CIA director. Yeah that's definitely a possibility; the whole thing was basically just an exercise in America throwing its weight around as the Soviets were falling apart. Even if it wasn't encouraged by the US they definitely went all out in the propaganda for it, c.f. the famous phony UN testimony. Its not like Saddam's Iraq was really good or in the right but they were just the first opportunity for the US to beat someone up
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:47 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/oni_blackstock/status/1452272887902187529 but but i thought newspapers were the bedrock of democracy
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 15:56 |
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Some Guy TT posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/oni_blackstock/status/1452272887902187529 darkness dies in democracy
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# ? Oct 24, 2021 16:12 |
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Does anyone know anything about Russia and the Japanese during WWI? I mean they're both on the same side, but what were their relations like? I don't know anything before the Japanese interventions in the Russian Far East during the Civil War.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Does anyone know anything about Russia and the Japanese during WWI? I mean they're both on the same side, but what were their relations like? I don't know anything before the Japanese interventions in the Russian Far East during the Civil War. I think Russia was too busy throwing wave after wave of their own men at Tannenberg and for some reason they didn't have a Far East fleet so Japan was able to snaffle up the sweet German colonies they were after without any "help" from Russia.
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sullat posted:for some reason they didn't have a Far East fleet heh
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Pryor on Fire posted:I have posted this too many times but it's still my favorite military operation ever, I can't believe it actually happened. The British people are completely deranged: it's even more deranged - more quintessentially British - cause these hugely impressive feats of military engineering and logistics were complete failures. only one mission actually did some actual damage, and even that was repaired by the argentinians within 24 hours. it's propaganda, plain and simple, one last hurrah for blitz spirit and British exceptionalism.
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oscarthewilde posted:it's even more deranged - more quintessentially British - cause these hugely impressive feats of military engineering and logistics were complete failures. only one mission actually did some actual damage, and even that was repaired by the argentinians within 24 hours. it's propaganda, plain and simple, one last hurrah for blitz spirit and British exceptionalism. 10 tankers, a SAR plane that couldn't make it, two bombers, one with the window rolled down a crack. What do you call this act? The Penguin Protectors of the British Empire
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 14:31 |
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quote:While the Vulcans were capable of carrying conventional munitions, this had not been done for a long time. To carry twenty-one bombs, the Vulcan required three sets of bomb carriers, each of which held seven bombs. Their release was controlled by a panel at the navigator's station, known as a 90-way, that monitored the electrical connections to each bomb, and was said to provide 90 different sequences for releasing the 1,000-pound bombs. None of the Vulcans at Waddington were fitted with the bomb racks or the 90-way. A search of the supply dumps at Waddington and RAF Scampton located the 90-way panels, which were fitted and tested, but finding enough septuple bomb carriers proved harder, and at least nine were required. Someone remembered that some had been sold to a scrapyard in Newark-on-Trent, and they were retrieved from there. Locating sufficient bombs also proved difficult, and only 167 could be located. Some had cast bomb cases rather than machined ones, which was problematic as they tended to shatter, and this mission required bombs that would penetrate into the ground.
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https://twitter.com/frankshyong/status/1452346109548851200
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quote:Most of the praise that Engels dictated in this situation belonged to those officers of junior rank who achieved something noteworthy. This is particularly significant as it demonstrated a further development in Engels’ thought process where he began to notice the lower level decision-makers and decisions that were critical to an operation, as well as the importance of junior officers. Three examples in particular stand out. First, The English Engineer, Colonel Sir Harry David Jones, who oversaw the English fortifications in the Baltic and Crimean theaters, was adept at realizing and understanding the capabilities and limitations of the English forces available to him.{248} Similarly, one of the chief Russian engineers, Colonel Count Eduard I. Todtleben, a “comparably obscure man in the Russian service,” proved himself adept at developing fortifications inside Sevastopol.{249} Finally, Engels took enough notice of the astute observations of a young Prussian Major in 1836 when that officer wrote about the particulars and details of defending Silistria. That Engels took such an early no- tice of the remarks of Major Helmuth von Moltke reflects quite positively on his observational skills.{250}
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Engels in May 1862 posted:Hero McClellan is in a dead fix. I think this will mark the passing of his spurious glory. He has had another division transferred to him from McDowell, but that won't help him much. All that can save him are the ironclads... If they cleared the rivers to right and left and engaged the flanks and rear with their guns, these ships could once again save this jackass or traitor. The collected letters and articles in The Civil War in the United States are a pro-read
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MeatwadIsGod posted:The collected letters and articles in The Civil War in the United States are a pro-read Lmao Engels was a catty bitch
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Slavvy posted:Lmao Engels was a catty bitch True marxist.
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Lmao he mentioned Von Moltke? my jaw is agape.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 23:52 |
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The book is "First Red Clausewitz: Friedrich Engels and Early Socialist Military Theory", by Major Michael A. Bodenquote:It is somewhat surprising that for all of the importance of economics in the theoretical observations and logic of Karl Marx’s thought, and of communism in general, that subject figured so little in Engels’ reflections concerning war and fighting. Surprisingly, when Engels first read one of the most well- known military missives of the nineteenth century, Prussian General Carl von Clausewitz’s On War, the first thing that caught his attention was the way in which Clausewitz incorporated commerce into war. Engels specifically drew Marx to this correlation.{286} quote:Two years later, Engels remained critical of the English rank and file when he wrote his entry “Alma” for The New American Cyclopaedia, noting the English “habitual clumsy way” of conducting military operations.{329} quote:Even before the final convulsions of the early 1850s, Engels began to describe some of the specific concepts that made such popular wars different from previous conflicts. quote:As discussed above, Friedrich Engels was one of the first early socialist writers to devote energy to the actual operations of armies in the field. And although he might not have been a dramatic innovator his observations and concepts nevertheless contributed greatly to the way in which socialist movements since his time developed and engaged in military operations. And his impact has been felt in no arena more than in the area of guerrilla warfare. Engels, almost alone of his contemporaries, discussed to considerable length the ideas behind guerrilla movements: quote:In the summer of 1848, Engels watched the developments in Paris with great attention. It was a situation where the workers were competing militarily against a regular force that both outnumbered them and contained far more lethal weaponry than they possessed. While the ultimate outcome was not in doubt for long, and the bulk of the fighting ended within a week, Engels drew some conclusions concerning the nature of insurgency warfare, especially when conducted in an urban environment.
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I was joking with a friend about some marrying some decedent of the spanish burbon royal family and he laughed at me and told me to look up whose the current king of spain. Did the french revolution actually matter
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Popy posted:I was joking with a friend about some marrying some decedent of the spanish burbon royal family and he laughed at me and told me to look up whose the current king of spain. The French Revolution gave us nationalism, total war, and rule by the bourgeoisie. The Haitian Revolution could have given us a much more comprehensive vision of emancipatory revolution, but it was crushed by the French revolutionaries for threatening the racial-capitalist source of their wealth and power.
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Popy posted:I was joking with a friend about some marrying some decedent of the spanish burbon royal family and he laughed at me and told me to look up whose the current king of spain. Anyone can marry the decedent of a royal family, get a shovel and find your spouse now!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUQqwyDPZRw watched this lecture today - it's a discussion on the Soviet theory of operational warfare, specifically touching on concepts advanced by Mikhail Tukhachevsky there's a lot of hemming-and-hawing from the speaker about not wanting to show favor towards the Soviet system because it's America and you have to walk on eggshells talking about communism, and perhaps this is a bit too basic for anyone who's already been reading a lot of Soviet warmaking and strategy, but I thought it was a good intro to the subject
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUQqwyDPZRw This theory that the army would just resupply itself magically as the workers rose up in the Russo-Polish war is hilarious, it's the same delusional line of thought that led to the Japanese sending tens of thousands of soldiers to starve on various islands with no food and no supplies.
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Popy posted:I was joking with a friend about some marrying some decedent of the spanish burbon royal family and he laughed at me and told me to look up whose the current king of spain. It mattered and it was bad. Plunging Europe into 20 years of war is kinda a big deal imo.
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Weka posted:It mattered and it was bad. Plunging Europe into 20 years of war is kinda a big deal imo. Lookit this Pitt the Younger apologist here
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Pryor on Fire posted:This theory that the army would just resupply itself magically as the workers rose up in the Russo-Polish war is hilarious, it's the same delusional line of thought that led to the Japanese sending tens of thousands of soldiers to starve on various islands with no food and no supplies. Don’t be ridiculous. The Emperor supplied them with livestock in the form of giant African land snails.
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 06:26 |
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full disclosure: this request comes from a paper i'm working on does anyone know of situations involving sources similar to fuchida, midway, and shattered sword? looking specifically for cases where bad historical sources are used due to language barriers. its for a historical methodologies paper about the risks of easily available sources in a language other than what they were written in.
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 21:13 |
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syria
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I’m not sure how well received Felix will be as a source by the professor
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I'm no expert on the topic but would the whole myth of the clean Wehrmacht count? Guys like Halder and the various generals got pretty readily translated into English and that myth definitely persisted for way too loving long (and still persists with the general public to some degree). They really shaped a narrative, and I did get the impression that there was at least some English-language scholarship that believed it earnestly. I don't know if that was something that really existed in German war scholarship though so not sure if it would fit.
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