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Lady Demelza posted:It surprises me that workplaces are still doing Covid restrictions. Most of my colleagues are lucky if we get 1 day a week WFH (we have a lot of customer facing work) and quite a few people choose to wear masks, but that's up to individuals. We've booked a night out for the work Christmas do and some of us are going to a colleague's housewarming party next week. My company[1] is still basically 100% WFH for any roles that can be done from home and aren't planning on reviewing this until the spring - apparently a lot of people have gone back into the offices but everyone's clustered into the posh new ones instead of the shite old ones and the rumour is that the company's basically going to sell the shite old ones instead of bringing them up to the standards of the new ones, saving themselves >£100m in the process plus whatever they get for what is some pretty prime land. Rumours in the industry are that - with a few exceptions - almost all the big tech companies are going to move to some form of hybrid working fulltime and downscale their offices - the Hoxton artisanal coffee industry is going to be decimated. [1] Well, the jeans-and-t-shirt bit of my company - the polo-shirted don't get the option because it's a bit hard to plug cables in at a data centre from home, and the headset-wearers still get packed in like battery hens although *allegedly* the fairly aggressive internal TTI system (including full pay leave for quarantine) has kept the case rates in the call centres at least lower than the outside world.
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Paper Planes posted:Hi UKMT Since you're on annual leave you could simply say you've booked a holiday and will be out of the country and unreachable, and tough poo poo
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Nov 2, 2021 22:35
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Since you're on annual leave you could simply say you've booked a holiday and will be out of the country and unreachable, and tough poo poo This is what I have done 
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Nov 2, 2021 22:38
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Thanks all (a lot of quick responses!), and ultimately my personal solution is just to say I'm visiting relatives and uncontactable! I think it just griped me a bit because there are deffo quite a few people in my department who cannot say 'no' to anything and it did seem a bit of a grey area.
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Nov 2, 2021 22:44
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Paper Planes posted:Thanks all (a lot of quick responses!), and ultimately my personal solution is just to say I'm visiting relatives and uncontactable! I think it just griped me a bit because there are deffo quite a few people in my department who cannot say 'no' to anything and it did seem a bit of a grey area. Tbf I pretty much only read this thread for the goons that need help with stuff.
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Nov 2, 2021 22:47
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The Question IRL posted:I see that this threads favorite Billionaire was in the news yesterday. So Elon offers to do a good thing... and thats a bad thing. OK
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Nov 2, 2021 22:48
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Paper Planes posted:Hi UKMT Depending on the extent of paper trail, you've potentially got a solid grievance in that lot. The details will matter on both forced leave (what days, do they reject all other requests, can you prove that they reject all other requests, will they try to argue it's an implied term) and "volunteering" work (who is being asked, how formal are these requests, how do they feel about "no", are you allocated timeslots or shifts, or are you asked to occasionally log into an email server), but at the bare minimum HMRC would have some questions that will almost certainly result in some quiet changes to these practices. If you're answering things like "bank holidays, no other leave is allowed, doing your contracted duties on shifts, I can prove these things" then I'd suggest you start quietly asking your coworkers if there is anything else in the workplace they'd all like to see changed.
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Nov 2, 2021 22:53
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NotJustANumber99 posted:So Elon offers to do a good thing... and thats a bad thing. OK Elon has a long history of offering to do good things and here are the total listed results of those offers ; 20 store brand cpap machines international flytipping
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Nov 2, 2021 22:58
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NotJustANumber99 posted:So Elon offers to do a good thing... and thats a bad thing. OK If you really believe that any amount of proof would get Musk to hand over six billion dollars, then please send me any amount of bitcoins and I will give back twice as many in a week's time.
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Nov 2, 2021 22:59
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Spangly A posted:Depending on the extent of paper trail, you've potentially got a solid grievance in that lot. The details will matter on both forced leave (what days, do they reject all other requests, can you prove that they reject all other requests, will they try to argue it's an implied term) and "volunteering" work (who is being asked, how formal are these requests, how do they feel about "no", are you allocated timeslots or shifts, or are you asked to occasionally log into an email server), but at the bare minimum HMRC would have some questions that will almost certainly result in some quiet changes to these practices. Having specific dates where a company is closed and that you are required to use your leave is fairly standard practice and would not constitute a grievance. Certain industries will shut down for 2 weeks in a slow period and require you to use your leave for this time. Again without the actual specifics its very difficult to say what the request even was and I would never suggest agitating in the workplace over what could be a misunderstanding.
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Nov 2, 2021 22:59
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Rumours in the industry are that - with a few exceptions - almost all the big tech companies are going to move to some form of hybrid working fulltime and downscale their offices - the Hoxton artisanal coffee industry is going to be decimated. Lord Sugar is going to have an aneurysm. It's not just tech companies; quite a few of the law and accountancy firms will be hybrid working and looking to downscale office space. But you love to see the government blaming lazy public sector workers.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:02
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NotJustANumber99 posted:So Elon offers to do a good thing... and thats a bad thing. OK Having given due publicity to his promise, our millionaire proceeded as usual to stroll quietly through the streets of Frankfort. Three or four passers-by asked for their five shillings, which he disbursed with a sardonic smile. His stratagem succeeded, and the family of the millionaire is still in possession of its wealth.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:02
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Spangly A posted:Elon has a long history of offering to do good things and here are the total listed results of those offers ; Amazing electric cars A revolution in personal car ownership Access to space for non government agencies i dunno like paypal or whatever
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Nov 2, 2021 23:03
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Rumours in the industry are that - with a few exceptions - almost all the big tech companies are going to move to some form of hybrid working fulltime and downscale their offices - the Hoxton artisanal coffee industry is going to be decimated. Friend of mine just got a new job with a fairly large tech company which was apparently advertising "work fully remotely, from anywhere in EU or UK". Now that is a good frikkin' deal imo Hopefully things will go towards "fully remote, from anywhere" as a standard across the board... but of course in most cases it will probably will be much shittier than that
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Nov 2, 2021 23:11
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Amazing electric cars Please don't start another derail of letting everyone know how much of an idiot and Elonstan you are.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:11
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Amazing electric cars Electric cars that occasionally burst into flames. Car ownership that means they can remotely brick your car if you miss a payment. Privatizing space. He did gently caress all to develop Paypal, he literally paid for the title of founder.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:12
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Electric cars that occasionally burst into flames. He paid for the title of founder of tesla after they started making electric cars, he used the apartheid mine money to buy into a company that was bought out by Paypal.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:24
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We all seem on much the same page
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Nov 2, 2021 23:24
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Amazing electric cars Cmon man, y'know he didn't do any of those things. All he can do is get divorced, smoke weed and lie
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Nov 2, 2021 23:29
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And have investment scandals but none of them get called Elongate wtf
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Failed Imagineer posted:Cmon man, y'know he didn't do any of those things. All he can do is get divorced, smoke weed and lie Sounds alright to me
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Nov 2, 2021 23:31
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Lady Demelza posted:you love to see the government blaming lazy public sector workers. I'm definitely biased on the issue because I find working from home to have too many distractions (*cough* Steam account *cough*), but I find being in the office to be just generally better for me. Particularly since I now have more stuff to do at work, having a concrete split between "at work" and "at home" makes it much easier for me to do my hours and then gently caress off home. Or, at least, do my hours and then whatever extra time it takes to finish the urgent stuff, and then gently caress off home. There's a real split in management, though. The pressure coming from senior leadership is very much "you should be in the office if you can be" and "if you're not well enough to be in the office, you should call in sick"... but basically everyone - including less senior managers - agrees that there's actually quite a lot of work you can do on a day when you're just unwell, and even working at 60% efficiency from the comfort of your own home is better than being off sick and working at fuckitI'mwatchingTV% efficiency. So where do you draw the line? There is, after all, plenty of scope for scope for workers of all sectors to be lazier when working from home than if they were in the office. Particularly if they do a job where it's hard to pull a bunch of metrics to gauge performance.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Rumours in the industry are that - with a few exceptions - almost all the big tech companies are going to move to some form of hybrid working fulltime and downscale their offices - the Hoxton artisanal coffee industry is going to be decimated. That's what we are doing. Our lease at Dirty Des's pad was up anyway so we've sold up and got a smaller office in Aldgate - it is no longer physically possible to have everyone in 5 days a week even if we wanted to. Plan is basically 2 days a fortnight in for meetings and planning and that only from February. Regular set top box snuggling remains at home from now on.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Cmon man, y'know he didn't do any of those things. All he can do is get divorced, smoke weed and lie Lol, I dunno about all the other stuff and I literally couldnt give a poo poo about elon. But the tesla is a great car and is absolutely forcing the agenda in modern cars. Like the VW id3 etc, all these other cars that are basically what every car manufacturer is going to be doing for the next 10 years. Tesla made them do that... even then they might not have caught up, I mean they will because they have to cos the tesla infrastructure can't support them all
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serious gaylord posted:Having specific dates where a company is closed and that you are required to use your leave is fairly standard practice and would not constitute a grievance. Certain industries will shut down for 2 weeks in a slow period and require you to use your leave for this time. I'd suggest agitating because the day ends in Y, it's good to know what your coworkers would want to see happen before you find yourself with something you might be able to use to get it. I'm not suggesting stamping around and throwing down grievances without knowing if what you're looking at is actually something you can work with, but it never hurts to pay attention. Failed Imagineer posted:Cmon man, y'know he didn't do any of those things. All he can do is get divorced, smoke weed and lie he clearly can't smoke weed properly
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Nov 2, 2021 23:46
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NotJustANumber99 posted:But the tesla is a great car
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NotJustANumber99 posted:So Elon offers to do a good thing... and thats a bad thing. OK He's not offering to do a good thing though. He is refusing to do a good thing unless someone can prove the good thing is good according to his own undefined standards, via a Twitter thread.
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Random Integer posted:He's not offering to do a good thing though. He is refusing to do a good thing unless someone can prove the good thing is good according to his own undefined standards, via a Twitter thread. I think its the same thing we all do. Make my money count and i'll spend it.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:48
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:He did gently caress all to develop Paypal, he literally paid for the title of founder. the same could be said of all capitalists
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Nov 2, 2021 23:49
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I mean it is. If you wanted to spend 50k on a bmw or whatever. The tesla is in my opinion a better car. I've had it over two years now and it absolutely is.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:50
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Thread NO. PULL UP.
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lol yeah soz
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feedmegin posted:Dirty Des's pad I assume you mean the N&S building up by Billingsgate but just for a second I got confused and thought you were working in the old N&S Tower on the Isle of Dogs. Not because I was freaked out by goon-proximity, but because that's still *mostly* used by the porn mags and Television X and I wanted to ask if the locked dumpster was still round the side of the building and packed out with remaindered grot. Every teenage boy in east London spent the 90s planning ways into that thing like it was Fort Knox after the one day it was left unlocked and the secret of it's contents were revealed.
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kingturnip posted:I'm definitely biased on the issue because I find working from home to have too many distractions (*cough* Steam account *cough*), but I find being in the office to be just generally better for me. I get loads more done at home. My boss loves a chat and I don't disappoint haha - plus we have volunteers dropping in throughout the day (I work for a small charity). Some are great, you give them something to do and they get on with it. Others need cups of tea, catch up chats, and considerable 'hand holding'. And yes, it is perfectly possible to do a full day's work from home when you're feeling a bit under the weather - maybe all you need is to take a couple of rest breaks throughout the day to get on with the work especially if you don't have to waste pointless hours in meetings. The 3-4 hour daily commute - mostly standing - which I used to have to do between Walthamstow and Croydon would finish me off. My personal guideline for when to go back to work after a heavy cold, flu or whatever would be: when I feel better at home AND also have the energy to do a 3 mile walk two days in a row (my daily commute included about 3 miles of walking to and from station at both ends, through stations, along train lengths and so on) without dying. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:tesla is a great car It really isn't. NotJustANumber99 posted:Amazing electric cars Irreparable light pollution for ground based astronomy. fuctifino fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:
I mean I understand the intention behind your comment but amusingly I take particular issue with what VW have done, not just in the id3, but in the Golf range for its infotainment. They've gone full wacky catch-up mode, put a ton of controls behind a stupid slow unresponsive touchscreen and removed physical buttons. I can't comment on the electric powertrain in the id3, I'm sure it's ... fine? I drove a GTE and in full electric it was nice to tootle around the local town in. But yeah the 'we need to get an ipad in the cockpit' thinking is garbage and needs to go. mk6 and mk7 golf, nice tactile buttons and knobs and things for important functions. The infotainment in the mk8 golf / id3 is hilariously and frustratingly awful and I don't understand why VW have shot themselves in the foot so hard with this. They've even tried to be fancy with a camera and look at road signs to work out what speed you should be doing, except for reasons I can't fathom it occasionally thinks the main road nearby is a 45 and not a 30, and at one point joining the motorway it thought the speed limit was 115 mph i mean what the hell. Oh and it crashes pretty often. Luckily by that I mean the infotainment system and not the car into a firetruck or something.
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I get loads more done working from home AND I have time to do chores and/or play video games.
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Spangly A posted:Elon has a long history of offering to do good things and here are the total listed results of those offers ; NotJustANumber99 posted:Amazing electric cars A childsize "submarine" and a defamation lawsuit.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Lol, I dunno about all the other stuff and I literally couldnt give a poo poo about elon. GM had the Volt as a rolling concept vehicle a year before Tesla slapped some laptop batteries into a Lotus. VW's BEV programme started before Elon had even heard of Tesla. It turns out it is actually hard to get these things right, as has been demonstrated by Tesla's sub-British-Leyland build quality. It's definitely notable that none of the uniquely Tesla points that all of the owners rave about are actually even vaguely being replicated elsewhere (apart from dumb over-reliance on touchscreen input but that's a societal problem). Their driver assist stuff is barely functional compared to even the loving French manufacturers, nobody else is doing the various battery-destroying drag race modes because... they destroy the battery, there's no trick to it, and most of all not a single other manufacturer is using round cells because it's a loving *stupid* idea for a mass-produced car. Saying Tesla "forced" the BEV into existence is like saying Franz Reichelt forced the invention of the parachute. However because we live in exceptionally dumb times we somehow lionise the person who rushes an unfinished, barely-functional product to market while people who actually know what they're doing try to do things the right way.
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Tesla made the killer app of electric cars. Sales figures support that and now everyone is realising it can be done and trying to catchup. They need to focus on matching tesla's infrastructure but because they're dumbass car makers they think the answer is make it a touch screen apple car. Me da has the skoda enyaq which is a slightly better done vw and its great. Theyre as good as they are because of tesla. But now they need to think and compete and I'm not sure theyre up to it right now
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