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I just now got what vibes I was getting from Purveyor: he feels like an oldschool Djinn or Efreet (only back then the third ability would have been a bonus for the opponent too)
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Most creatures just do nothing but take all your mana for the turn before they get doom bladed. This one actually helps your opponent first. I'm not sure it's good enough.
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A Moose posted:Most creatures just do nothing but take all your mana for the turn before they get doom bladed. This one actually helps your opponent first. I'm not sure it's good enough. The zombie dinosaur saw play despite having a worse drawback and no evasion, but you might be right. The gap from 3 to 4 cmc is probably the second biggest CMC gap in magic (1 to 2 is the biggest).
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A Moose posted:Most creatures just do nothing but take all your mana for the turn before they get doom bladed. This one actually helps your opponent first. I'm not sure it's good enough. It's immune to doom blade. 
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https://twitter.com/valimarmtg/status/1455652487881543681?s=21 https://twitter.com/coreybaumeister/status/1455637047453040643?s=21
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Graf Reaver is cool, it makes me think of my old friend Carnophage
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Wait hang on. Exploit isn't Devour? It's a trigger not a replacement, right, can he exploit himself?
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Huxley posted:Wait hang on. Exploit isn't Devour? It's a trigger not a replacement, right, can he exploit himself? Correct, you can sacrifice the creature with exploit as it enters the battlefield
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Huxley posted:Wait hang on. Exploit isn't Devour? It's a trigger not a replacement, right, can he exploit himself? You can. He can exploit himself but you won't then get the exploit trigger, it's already out of play. edit: actually, I'm not sure about this
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AngryBooch posted:You can. He can exploit himself but you won't then get the exploit trigger, it's already out of play. According to the rulings on Loathsome Curator: You can sacrifice the creature with exploit if it’s still on the battlefield. This will cause its other ability to trigger. So you should be able to play it and kill a planeswalker by sacrificing it Pablo Nergigante fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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Huxley posted:Wait hang on. Exploit isn't Devour? It's a trigger not a replacement, right, can he exploit himself? Yes, that's how Exploit works, from the rulings on Gurmag Drowner: quote:You can sacrifice the creature with exploit if it’s still on the battlefield. This will cause its other ability to trigger.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:According to the rulings on Loathsome Curator: I was thinking of instant speed kill spells I think, those can prevent the exploit triggered ability, when they can't with typical ETBs
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AngryBooch posted:You can. He can exploit himself but you won't then get the exploit trigger, it's already out of play. Because the trigger on Exploit happens due to a permanent leaving the battlefield it's one of the category of triggered abilities that looks back at the game state just before the triggering event occurred
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AngryBooch posted:I was thinking of instant speed kill spells I think, those can prevent the exploit triggered ability, when they can't with typical ETBs Yeah I think as it ETB exploit will trigger and then priority passes so the opponent can cast a killing spell. But then is exploit still on the stack? Could they sacrifice another creature or would the exploit ability just fizzle?
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Yeah I think as it ETB exploit will trigger and then priority passes so the opponent can cast a killing spell. But then is exploit still on the stack? Could they sacrifice another creature or would the exploit ability just fizzle? If the Exploiter got removed from the battlefield, by murder, then yeah there's still the chance to sacrifice a creature. But when the sacrifice goes through, there's no Exploiter to have exploited it. Exploit is just ETB may sac a creature. Every Exploiter has a triggered ability that makes it do something.
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I don't really know what the story is for this set but I find myself very upset at these rude humans who are interrupting some vampires just trying to have a nice time and enjoy a wedding
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Mike N Eich posted:I don't really know what the story is for this set but I find myself very upset at these rude humans who are interrupting some vampires just trying to have a nice time and enjoy a wedding It's enough to make your blood boil.
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Adam and Eve not Olivia and Edgar
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Some good upgrades for the last set's zombie precon commander deck spoiled today
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This looks fun
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th3t00t posted:I didn't miss that. Doesn't seem like a big enough drawback. 4+ mana creatures that don't do anything for an entire turn cycle and aren't resilient to removal need to be extremely good and the metagame needs to be right for them to see play. This has enough stats that it's possible - Abyssal Persecutor and Desecration Demon saw some play, for instance - but there's very little chance it's a Standard defining card and a decent chance it sees no play at all. For instance I think it's probably worse than Ebondeath and that card sees no play. In a lot of ways the drawback is worse on this one too because if they Infernal Grasp it you're not just down 2 mana, you're also down a Blood token. Elyv fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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HootTheOwl posted:This looks fun Did you mean "miserable"? I think you meant "miserable". That pseudo helm of the hosts just staring at you from the graveyard.
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Trepanation Blade went through development and design with the name "chainsaw" but isn't a chainsaw no matter how much maro lies about it, so I am glad, a decade later, they just have a loving chainsaw.
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Want to keep any eye on clerics and see if something comes together, between this and Voice of the Blessed.
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Finally, a counter to Bruvac.
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bloodvial vamp seems like a desecration demon that scales upward pretty fast
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I think based on the goggles and hair that the character on Spiked Ripsaw is Reckless Stormseeker
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So Spiked Ripsaw is going to be (renamed) in the 40k Commander deck then huh.
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lol, I am always amused when someone who gets back into magic breaks out "an old classic deck of theirs" and then does a looney toons bug-eyes at the price tag it runs for now someone in the tradgames discord was pestered into putting their old mtg deck into archidekt and see how it turns out https://archidekt.com/decks/2012291#Rot_Bringer  would that all of us could be lucky enough to have not hocked our amazing goods years ago and get this revelation thrust upon us
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 Hive-Heart Shaman {3}{G} Creature - Human Shaman Whenever Hive-Heart Shaman attacks, you may search your library for a basic land card that does not share a land type with a land you control and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle. {5}{G}: Create a 1/1 green insect creature token. Put X +1/+1 counters on it, where X is the number of basic land types among lands you control. Activate only as a sorcery. 3/5  Dream-Chain Spirit {1}{U}{U} Creature - Spirit Flying At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose up to one: - Tap target creature - Target creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step 3/1  Skull Skaab {U}{B} Creature - Zombie Exploit. Whenever a creature you control exploits a nontoken creature, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token. 2/2  
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drat, that's a really nice mana dork, that actually becomes a decent threat late game! neato!
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Captain Invictus posted:drat, that's a really nice mana dork, that actually becomes a decent threat late game! neato! And the Prince alt-art is a nice bonus too.
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That's a great mana dork. Loving that this set has a few cards with early game value that becomes late game value.
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Captain Invictus posted:drat, that's a really nice mana dork, that actually becomes a decent threat late game! neato! Agreed
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