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Now that it's clear that you can run a counter-campaign after losing a primary, and at least half of the local party will support you over the actual winner, I cant imagine any centrist incumbent ever willingly backing down to a left challenger. Clearly you can do that and democrat voters will reward you for it.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The incumbent Mayor who has already been elected Mayor 5 times winning re-election is different than a random nobody winning a seat in Congress through a write-in campaign. Really it just means 'vote blue no matter who' was always an idiot fiction because the democrats feel no obligation to follow it when the wrong person wins, and if your candidate doesn't win the primary its cool to vote third party or just stay home. E: I know I personally will use the example of Walton in the future when I talk leftists out of feeling compelled to vote for democrats if their preferred candidate loses a democrat primary. It really helps to know the opposition would not hesitate to undermine your candidate if they had won, so there is no remorse at all in undermining them when they win Nix Panicus fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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Doctor Teeth posted:can someone who is more knowledgeable about this stuff tell me how phil murphy is doing? it looks super tight but the county that has newark is at less than 1% reporting, at least on the NYTimes tracker He should win pretty comfortably.
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Doctor Teeth posted:can someone who is more knowledgeable about this stuff tell me how phil murphy is doing? it looks super tight but the county that has newark is at less than 1% reporting, at least on the NYTimes tracker Doing worse than he should, but the large Republican areas are most done reporting and the large democratic strongholds haven't reported yet. He should win by a lot
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Neurolimal posted:Now that it's clear that you can run a counter-campaign after losing a primary, and at least half of the local party will support you over the actual winner, I cant imagine any centrist incumbent ever willingly backing down to a left challenger. Clearly you can do that and democrat voters will reward you for it. Maybe the left challengers need to figure out how to get more people to vote for them.
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Neurolimal posted:Now that it's clear that you can run a counter-campaign after losing a primary, and at least half of the local party will support you over the actual winner, I cant imagine any centrist incumbent ever willingly backing down to a left challenger. Clearly you can do that and democrat voters will reward you for it.
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Deteriorata posted:It demonstrates that the argument of "pass good stuff and people will love you" is patently bullshit, though. This isn't really a referendum on VA's policy of the last couple of years though because Terry McAuliffe chose to ignore any of that progress and run a campaign where he told parents what he actually meant when he said they shouldn't have a say in their childrens education
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Deteriorata posted:Maybe the left challengers need to figure out how to get more people to vote for them. How did the write-in campaign take off with such force?
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Deteriorata posted:Maybe the left challengers need to figure out how to get more people to vote for them. Maybe we should ratfuck centrists as hard as they ratfuck us
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:^^^^* exactly "Great news! My piece of poo poo car burst into flames, so my insurance is going to cover the cost of a new one! It was a shame my grandpa was in it, but hey! NEW CAR!" Being happy that a bad Dem ate poo poo would be good if that didn't mean a fascist won as a result. If the bad Dem ate poo poo and nothing else happened as a result, then sure, throw a parade in the streets, but this has long-term negative consequences for millions of people. Pook Good Mook posted:This is D&D, so no, many posters do not understand nuance or grey areas. This isn't about nuance or grey areas. A fascist that was able to keep the mask on better than most Republicans just got elected. I'd be happy if the bad Dem ate poo poo in the primary, but not in the general. Why is this so difficult for people to understand?
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TwoQuestions posted:I don't know how to feel about this, it's been clear for some time that the Reps do better when Trump keeps his fat loving mouth shut, and he seems to be able to do that. No he doesn't. It is just that no one is watching. He just keeps talking poo poo in his own little corner.
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Deteriorata posted:Maybe the left challengers need to figure out how to get more people to vote for them. If they do I hope they let Terry McAuliffe in on the secret
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it's very local to me and not that important, but the mayor of a springfield, mo suburb declined to oust the mayor over mask mandates by a lot https://twitter.com/springfieldNL/status/1455716861996322818
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Nonsense posted:How did the write-in campaign take off with such force? Brown has been in NYS politics for 30 years and is owed all kinds of favors and also cops and developers love him because he's a NY democrat who loves cops and pork projects that go nowhere but make people a lot of money. Trazz posted:Maybe we should ratfuck centrists as hard as they ratfuck us The Republicans aren't interested in working with progressives to ratfuck centrists.
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Here's a weird quirk. The VA Governor race set a turnout record - looking like it will be between 55% and 60%. The Buffalo Mayor race looks like it had incredibly low turnout. Looking like it will be between 9% and 11% of registered voters. https://twitter.com/WBEN/status/1455719757513207813
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Ciprian Maricon posted:This isn't really a referendum on VA's policy of the last couple of years though because Terry McAuliffe chose to ignore any of that progress and run a campaign where he told parents what he actually meant when he said they shouldn't have a say in their childrens education Case in point:   This doesn't look like an ad that would get people to vote for Terrance!
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Nov 3, 2021 03:29
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India was utterly crushed into dust. She couldn't rally the communities backing Brown going by this vid. https://twitter.com/jslaternyc/status/1455722600177365000?s=20
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KillHour posted:The Republicans aren't interested in working with progressives to ratfuck centrists. It's almost like the problem from the start has been that we don't have power and don't have any real path to get it.
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Nov 3, 2021 03:31
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Lol at Leon's hyperfocus on the Buffalo mayoral race to exclusion of the NJ & VA governors' races.
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Flying-PCP posted:It's almost like the problem from the start has been that we don't have power and don't have any real path to get it. Being a leftist means never having any real power but being treated and blamed as if you do
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FlamingLiberal posted:This strategy doesn't always work, but Brown did everything he could to gently caress over Walton and it seems like it succeeded In 2010 Alvin Greene won the Dem primary in SC in, umm, really strange circumstances. Alvin Greene spent $0 (zero) on his campaign, had no endorsements, no ads--really this whole thing could be a whole other post, because Alvin Greene under no circumstances should have won that primary. Literally the worst candidate run by either major party I've seen (not in terms of platform, GOP is pretty evil, although even there things were lol). Anyway, the Greens and the Dem who was favored to win capitalized on this, the later of whom (backed by Clyburn and the state party) started a write-in campaign (others also began write-in campaigns). The Greens got 9% of the vote. The sum total of write-in votes was just over 1%. Alvin Greene, who was officially the Democrat on the ballot, got 27% of the vote.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Here's a weird quirk. I think this pisses me off the most. I was worried about the race but I didn't think she's get crushed this badly and it stings even more that 90% of people just didn't care who won. We literally just had to get people to wander in and check the only box on the ballot and couldn't even manage that.
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Neurolimal posted:Case in point: That is just embarrassing. I don't have faith that the correct lessons will be learned from this, but I do have absolute faith that the postmortems this week are going to be endlessly painful to read as everyone from the entire political spectrum explains how and why this loss validates their political strategies.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Here's a weird quirk. The numbers look not too dissimilar to past Buffalo mayoral elections to me, though. Does suggest that the extra attention to the race didn't really drive up turnout. More of a testament to the fact that Americans don't tend to pay much attention to local politics, really. Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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KillHour posted:I think this pisses me off the most. I was worried about the race but I didn't think she's get crushed this badly and it stings even more that 90% of people just didn't care who won. We literally just had to get people to wander in and check the only box on the ballot and couldn't even manage that. It says a lot of bad things about India Walton as a politician, unfortunately. She simply did not connect with the public at all and could not give anyone a reason to leave the house and go vote for her. This is almost entirely on her.
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CNN still hasn't called VA even though McAuliffe has to get 2/3 of every vote left
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Eric Adams with a narrow 42 point over Sliwa in NYC. Boston Mayoral race just called - Michelle Wu to become next Mayor of Boston.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Here's a weird quirk. plot twist: half are for JEB!
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So for some good news, Richie Floyd won his district 8 race for St Pete city council. DemSoc member and overall seems like a good guy. Good to see, since I still have family in the area. Local elections matter and you might even be able to impact them. https://twitter.com/shecarrieson/status/1455706737529479169?s=21
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Deteriorata posted:It says a lot of bad things about India Walton as a politician, unfortunately. She simply did not connect with the public at all and could not give anyone a reason to leave the house and go vote for her. This is almost entirely on her. Virginia is a greater disaster and likely the harbinger of things to come. A literal blue state made Red.
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Nonsense posted:Virginia is a greater disaster and likely the harbinger of things to come. A literal blue state made Red.
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Looks like the Republicans have NJ too, with 60% in it's R by 4 points. EDIT: Should have said, is this a case where the city hasn't reported in yet? TwoQuestions fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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TwoQuestions posted:Looks like the Republicans have NJ too, with 60% in it's R by 4 points. Lol really? Come on my guy
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Shammypants posted:Lol really? Come on my guy That's his thing.
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TwoQuestions posted:Looks like the Republicans have NJ too, with 60% in it's R by 4 points. All the outstanding precincts are NYC suburbs.
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Trazz posted:Is California the only state to figure out that we need to completely purge the GOP? We haven't really done great things with it.
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Deteriorata posted:It says a lot of bad things about India Walton as a politician, unfortunately. She simply did not connect with the public at all and could not give anyone a reason to leave the house and go vote for her. This is almost entirely on her. Yeah, her and McAuliffe followed the Clinton mold of being loser candidates I guess. Just didn't connect, with the blame entirely on them.
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Judakel posted:We haven't really done great things with it. Makes me wonder who the GOP will run against Newsom next year
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https://twitter.com/jamieson/status/1455719491439038466?s=20 The Trump Strategy has failed, The Byron Model is born, unions are growing fangs, it is a time of chaos. For real though, I'm glad that unions are starting to throw their weight around.
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