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Nonsense posted:Virginia is a greater disaster and likely the harbinger of things to come. A literal blue state made Red. Come on with the doom posting dude, it's annoying
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Trazz posted:Makes me wonder who the GOP will run against Newsom next year Chris Pratt
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Trazz posted:Is California the only state to figure out that we need to completely purge the GOP? Well the GOP pissed off the entire Hispanic vote in California in an effort to improve short term results and it turns out that was a growth demographic.
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Trazz posted:Makes me wonder who the GOP will run against Newsom next year Doesn't matter. They won't win.
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Trazz posted:Is California the only state to figure out that we need to completely purge the GOP? Last I checked the GOP is so nonexistant in Washington they have to flee the state with white militia dipshits in Idaho to have any way of stopping policy If only more state Dem machines could make the GOP a joke like that 
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does anyone know of a comprehensive(ish) list of school board results? yes i realize how tedious that would be to make. i ask because i just saw this: https://patch.com/connecticut/guilford/guilford-election-results-2021-polls-close-votes-being-counted and i'm now curious how this has played out across the country. according to the KC Star early results seem to indicate that the psychos have failed in suburban kc
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Judakel posted:Doesn't matter. They won't win. Still I'm curious Will they try to "moderate" or will they continue to run another Trumpist?
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Damnit my local school board flipped to the conservative majority.
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Trazz posted:Still I'm curious I don't think it would be terribly indicative of anything, the conservative movement and the Republican party have CA as the cause of all the world's ills. If someone with an R beside their name put their name on the ballot, they'd almost be a third party with as much as they'd have to have in common with the national party.
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TwoQuestions posted:I don't think it would be terribly indicative of anything, the conservative movement and the Republican party have CA as the cause of all the world's ills. If someone with an R beside their name put their name on the ballot, they'd almost be a third party with as much as they'd have to have in common with the national party. Elder was basically as close to a mini-Trump as you can get for a statewide candidate in California and he lost by literally the exact same margin as "respectable moderate businessman who doesn't even advertise he is a Republican" Cox did in 2018. I don't think policies or personality really matter when partisanship is as locked in as it is in places like CA.
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Trazz posted:Makes me wonder who the GOP will run against Newsom next year Rob Schneider. And he would get a lot of votes, too.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:^^^^* exactly You think that it's "nuanced" to think that wanting to see poo poo Dems lose is not the same thing as wanting Republicans to win. The error in your logic is that one cannot happen without the other. If you'd get out of your bubble, you'd see that for Biden or McAullife to lose is for Republicans to win and all the harm that comes with that. I mean, do you loving hope that your wife falls because you warned her not to walk down the icy road just because it would make you seem right and would teach her a lesson for the future about icy roads and listening to you? What if that lesson is a broken bone or a head injury? Just so we're clear, I bet that you: 1. Did not vote for Biden in 2020 2. Hoped that Trump would win throughout the night and the morning after 3. Were upset that Biden won 4. Hoped that Youngkin would win tonight 5. Are relieved that Youngkin won Dicking around with the phrasing does not change anything if the outcome is the same. If I got any of this wrong, please let me know.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:^^^^* exactly "I'm so glad that coin flip didn't land tails - doesn't mean I'm happy it landed heads!" is kind of hollow to me. In 99% of elections it's a binary choice, either the Dem wins or the Republican wins. One of them losing necessarily means the other winning. Personally, I don't give a poo poo what you want to post about it. But if I was, say, a teacher in a VA school and my life was about to get a fuckload worse by all this poo poo, I'd probably get upset about gloating that the bad dem lost.
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Peter Daou Zen posted:Rob Schneider. And he would get a lot of votes, too. His campaign slogan would be "I can do it!"
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Austin, Texas also overwhelmingly votes down a referendum to make 2/3 (!?!?!?!?) of their budget dedicated to law enforcement. Dude it was so loving stupid, even the Austin Fire Department was running ads on streaming services against it. I was really worried after that referendum to make homelessness basically a crime passed last spring, but the Back the Blue initiative went down in flames lol
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small butter posted:You think that it's "nuanced" to think that wanting to see poo poo Dems lose is not the same thing as wanting Republicans to win. The error in your logic is that one cannot happen without the other. If you'd get out of your bubble, you'd see that for Biden or McAullife to lose is for Republicans to win and all the harm that comes with that. I mean, do you loving hope that your wife falls because you warned her not to walk down the icy road just because it would make you seem right and would teach her a lesson for the future about icy roads and listening to you? What if that lesson is a broken bone or a head injury? Is he wrong for these things? No one needs two republican parties. If the democrats can't actually do anything but blame progressives then it's already a one party system. Might as well get ready for more pain in 2022 because Biden is a loving zombie and maybe you can see that now?
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 With the election safely decided, Trump's decided to start the gloating. Can't say he's particularly wrong, about Terry's strategy & hopefully that the democrats will find a new schtick. They tried to rope Trump into repelling Virginia independents and his handlers managed to rein him in; if they manage to do the same in 2022, with a heavily neutered BBB bill, it could be a slaughter.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Is he wrong for these things? No one needs two republican parties. If the democrats can't actually do anything but blame progressives then it's already a one party system. Might as well get ready for more pain in 2022 because Biden is a loving zombie and maybe you can see that now? At the moment, the progressives are heroes for standing their ground on the BIP and saving the BBB bill. I have no idea what you're talking about here.
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small butter posted:You think that it's "nuanced" to think that wanting to see poo poo Dems lose is not the same thing as wanting Republicans to win. The error in your logic is that one cannot happen without the other. If you'd get out of your bubble, you'd see that for Biden or McAullife to lose is for Republicans to win and all the harm that comes with that. I mean, do you loving hope that your wife falls because you warned her not to walk down the icy road just because it would make you seem right and would teach her a lesson for the future about icy roads and listening to you? What if that lesson is a broken bone or a head injury? why are you so mad at that guy and not at the political party that completely screwed the pooch at every level in a state that went Biden +10 last year? saying you dont care if some Clintonite sleaze who offered nothing but "that other guy's crazy" lives or dies is completely reasonable. maybe interrogate the party who's leadership cannot shut the gently caress up about how the country needs a strong, unified republican party, cuz it looks like theyre getting their wish and then some.
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You do realize this idiot is known Perma-Banned User Donald Trump right? Please stop helping with ban evasion, thank you
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Doctor Teeth posted:does anyone know of a comprehensive(ish) list of school board results? yes i realize how tedious that would be to make. I'm not aware of any national-level outlets that cover every school board election. Ballotpedia will likely have results of the bigger ones up tonight or tomorrow morning, though. I know some of the Colorado races were getting pretty intense. Deteriorata posted:At the moment, the progressives are heroes for standing their ground on the BIP and saving the BBB bill. I have no idea what you're talking about here. It's probably a sign of how thoroughly my brain is broken that I read that as Bachelors in Paradise.
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Doctor Teeth posted:does anyone know of a comprehensive(ish) list of school board results? yes i realize how tedious that would be to make. ...which my literal neighbor spearheaded, egged on by nonstop AM talk radio bullshit. That's been fun. My two reputable sources tell me that the RESTORE crew (i.e., the sensible board that was recalled by the REPLACE assholes, who were paid for by Chicago Libertarian billionaires and spouted CRT-inspired racist bullshit) won by ~60/40 margins. I will confirm tomorrow. Some context on our district: we are incredibly 1) old, and 2) rich, but we are also trending purple: Thiensville went for Trump by something like 1 vote, and Mequon was not too far behind. This is a far cry from the M-T of old (heh), which has gone dead-red for decades. In addition to CRT, the REPLACE camp threw against the wall: masks; standardized test performance; LIBERALS, seemingly to no avail. So, some good news from tonight.
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volts5000 posted:"Great news! My piece of poo poo car burst into flames, so my insurance is going to cover the cost of a new one! It was a shame my grandpa was in it, but hey! NEW CAR!" small butter posted:You think that it's "nuanced" to think that wanting to see poo poo Dems lose is not the same thing as wanting Republicans to win. The error in your logic is that one cannot happen without the other. If you'd get out of your bubble, you'd see that for Biden or McAullife to lose is for Republicans to win and all the harm that comes with that. I mean, do you loving hope that your wife falls because you warned her not to walk down the icy road just because it would make you seem right and would teach her a lesson for the future about icy roads and listening to you? What if that lesson is a broken bone or a head injury? Hellblazer187 posted:"I'm so glad that coin flip didn't land tails - doesn't mean I'm happy it landed heads!" is kind of hollow to me. In 99% of elections it's a binary choice, either the Dem wins or the Republican wins. One of them losing necessarily means the other winning. These posts have a lot of words that do zero reflection on the failure of the Dem party to run a candidate that would energize people to voting for policies that would benefit their community. So much gnashing at the teeth for a guy who’s only campaign strategy was “I’m not Trump.” Newsflash: peoples lives get worse whether a bad Dem or a Republican is elected because they are functionally identical for meaningful things like healthcare. A family member of mine is dead thanks to the inaction of the democrats on healthcare. Spare me your outrage and lectures about harm reduction. This loss is on the Democratic Party and you blaming me for laughing at their hubris isn’t going to suddenly make the Dems a winning party with ideas the public with find worth voting for.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:This are a lot of posts with a lot of words that do zero reflection on the failure of the Dem party to run a candidate that would energize people to voting for policies that would benefit their community. Except that in Virginia people's lives objectively got better under the bad Dems. How much better is arguable but it did get better. Life will not get better at all under Republicans. Them winning is not, in any way, good. No not even as a lesson to the establishment or whatever.
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I think the basic takeaway is that the left’s alliance with the Dems is over, or ought to be. The Dems are a center-right party in their foundations, they cannot and will not govern any other way, and will lose and go down with the ship rather than do so In re Virginia, they did do some very mildly progressive things (but nothing for labor) but then ran away from it in the campaign icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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icantfindaname posted:I think the basic takeaway is that the left’s alliance with the Dems is over, or ought to be. The Dems are a center-right party in their foundations, they cannot and will not govern any other way, and will lose and go down with the ship rather than do so There is no left in the USA.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:These posts have a lot of words that do zero reflection on the failure of the Dem party to run a candidate that would energize people to voting for policies that would benefit their community. So you were praying for a Youngkin win just like I predicted? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Kirios posted:Replacing the Minnesota police force measure also failed today. It's kind of a big bummer. As someone from Minneapolis, don't worry, that change wouldn't have actually done much anyways. It would have just shuffled MPD to a different umbrella and adjust the org chart slightly. But I gotta say, the group behind that measure (Yes 4 Minneapolis) did a drat good job at raising a bunch of money/fame on a national level at our expense...
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:These posts have a lot of words that do zero reflection on the failure of the Dem party to run a candidate that would energize people to voting for policies that would benefit their community. hmm yes one side wants to ban abortion and kill trans people and the other doesn't, clearly both sides are equally bad. I'm glad electing fascists has so little effect on your life that you feel comfortable with it, how unfortunate that the same can't be said for all of us.
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small butter posted:So you were praying for a Youngkin win just like I predicted? Omigod, can we stop with this reductive bullshit, please? They said nothing about wanting Youngkin to win, and you're only proving the point made about ignoring the reasons for losses. edit: If people are worried about the consequences of Republicans beating Democrats, then it would make sense to pay some loving attention as to why that's happening, a year after Democratic wins across the country (and because of many counties switching from D to R tonight).
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small butter posted:You think that it's "nuanced" to think that wanting to see poo poo Dems lose is not the same thing as wanting Republicans to win. The error in your logic is that one cannot happen without the other. If you'd get out of your bubble, you'd see that for Biden or McAullife to lose is for Republicans to win and all the harm that comes with that. I mean, do you loving hope that your wife falls because you warned her not to walk down the icy road just because it would make you seem right and would teach her a lesson for the future about icy roads and listening to you? What if that lesson is a broken bone or a head injury? I'm a moron and I've never seen anybody miss a point so badly.
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Push El Burrito posted:Except that in Virginia people's lives objectively got better under the bad Dems. How much better is arguable but it did get better. Voting is not a hostage situation or an abusive partner promising to change if we take them back. Either the political party offers a clear reason to stick with them or they don’t. Blaming the voters is disgusting and downright heinous. Put the blame where it belongs: the Democratic Party. Again, bolding this time, a number of peoples lives don’t improve under a bad Dem or a Republican. They just stay bad. virtualboyCOLOR fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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Mr Hootington posted:There is no left in the USA. Very true. I should have said that anyone who thinks of themselves as ‘left’ should understand the Dems will never ever be a viable means to enact their political program
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Zeron posted:hmm yes one side wants to ban abortion and kill trans people and the other doesn't, clearly both sides are equally bad. I'm glad electing fascists has so little effect on your life that you feel comfortable with it, how unfortunate that the same can't be said for all of us. It's deeply ironic to me that in 2020 despite all our accomplishments as humanity we can't tell the difference between two political parties even the former Republican President said there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville. And the other side is literal Nazis! 
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The fact that "the Dems did nothing" is being used as an argument in a state like VA where they actually did a ton shows how hollow that argument really is. It doesn't matter what the Dems actually do they will just get hated on, it's similar to the usual "the Dems should do this, oh wait they have been? Well I didn't hear about it from my media bubble so they did it wrong'
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icantfindaname posted:Very true. I should have said that anyone who thinks of themselves as ‘left’ should understand the Dems will never ever be a viable means to enact their political program Correct. Thank you.
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