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FoneBone
Oct 24, 2004
stupid, stupid rat creatures

Xelkelvos posted:

They've already done some dabbling into the Many Oceans thing which started in Death Metal iirc and idk, It seems a bit too out there in concept and what they've shown of it so far was not all that compelling really. It feel like a weird mashup of The Green/Red/Rot and more general multiversal stuff. I'd rather they go more mythological like WW has been dabbling in and that one arc where Arthur lost his memories. Tie it back closer to Magic rather than Cosmic stuff.

Brandon Thomas wrote the Future State Aquaman series that centered heavily around that, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it come back

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Noob Saibot
Jan 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Alehkhs posted:

As anticipated, the current Black Manta and Jackson Hyde minis are apparently leading into a new (ongoing?) series:

https://twitter.com/AquamanUniverse/status/1449184174397661185?t=1KYfzjvxGjwZ08kogs9qCw&s=19

Does every single semi popular character need their own Batman Inc./Spider-men now?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Noob Saibot posted:

Does every single semi popular character need their own Batman Inc./Spider-men now?

I assume it’s just being used instead of aquaman and aqualad

Splint Chesthair
Dec 27, 2004


Noob Saibot posted:

Does every single semi popular character need their own Batman Inc./Spider-men now?

It’s the same reason why there are 700 flavors of Oreo cookies now - it’s easier and safer to introduce a new character if it’s a variation of something familiar.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


It’s wild that there’s a Bendis and Maleev Checkmate book and nobody cares. That’d have been a dream book back in the 2000’s.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Open Marriage Night posted:

It’s wild that there’s a Bendis and Maleev Checkmate book and nobody cares. That’d have been a dream book back in the 2000’s.

I care, OP

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
It'd probably help if that book wasn't phoned-in gobbledygook.

Like I feel like DC books have been pretty decent recently to the point that it's honestly been way more fun to be a DC reader than it's been since all that Future State stuff, but like. Checkmate? Is a series that someone should be embarrassed to be paid for writing.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Checkmate is definitely a bit of a mess that technically makes sense but I can't see being anything important nor enjoyable. It has an ensemble team but doesn't really do anything with them that isn't as a unit except for Lois. I think this is a rare instance where I might want Tom King writing a book like this.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
Let's not say things we can't take back...

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



I mean, if there is one thing the CIA war criminal should write is a book about a gubernamental superhero war crimes spy society.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Siegkrow posted:

I mean, if there is one thing the CIA war criminal should write is a book about a gubernamental superhero war crimes spy society.

I love takes like this because it almost makes it feel like people shouldn't have enjoyed Rucka's Checkmate run unless they like war criminals.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Madkal posted:

I love takes like this because it almost makes it feel like people shouldn't have enjoyed Rucka's Checkmate run unless they like war criminals.

Rucka is less likely to have been personally involved with enhanced interrogation, at least. That can make things hit a little different.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Madkal posted:

I love takes like this because it almost makes it feel like people shouldn't have enjoyed Rucka's Checkmate run unless they like war criminals.

No it doesnt

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



Is Conner Kent still half Luthor?

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

BrianWilly posted:

In vaguely non-related WW news, I hope everyone is as excited for Wonder Woman Historia: The Amazons to come out next month as I am, as I have it under good authority that this book is going to change my loving life





I hadn't been paying much attention but then you posted that art and suddenly I am very interested

'cause wowza

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
It's basically an excuse for Phil Jimenez to flex on everyone, which...hey, good.




Though I'm hoping that Kelly Sue DeConnick will surprise me here even more. I can't remember any WW stories she's ever done, and her Captain Marvel series doesn't exactly seem to translate to some sort of Homeric epic. But here's hoping.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Wayne Family Adventures is almost too wholesome to function. It should be more of a Thing.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I know it's not uncommon for the Gotham titles, but it's an odd experience to be enjoying every other Wonder Woman thing more than the main title right now. Like, the Nubia book and Wonder Girl are both really great, and I especially love the renewed focus on the world-building Perez and his collaborators did on the Post-Crisis era stuff. I know it's not a totally perfect match for every viewpoint on trans identity, but using the Well Of Souls to introduce trans Amazons is a super clever approach and a great example of using existing lore in a refreshing and inclusive way.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
I have finally reached the consistently good Batman stories. 1980 is the turning point. Brave and the bold and world's finest stays mostly ok to garbage until those runs end. The untold legends of batman from '80 is a good origin. Soon I will have to start batman and the outsiders.

FYI the old black lightening stories suck and his power set is so inconsistent. The Robin and Batgirl stories range from out of touch to young republican to how does nobody know who these people are?

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
I'd argue Batman became consistently good right when Dennis O'Neil took over

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Blockhouse posted:

I'd argue Batman became consistently good right when Dennis O'Neil took over

Denny's stories are good, but he would write 2 or 3 issues then leave for an issue or 2. Those inbetween issues were usually bad.

Wein doesn't take as many breaks so far.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Gaz-L posted:

I know it's not uncommon for the Gotham titles, but it's an odd experience to be enjoying every other Wonder Woman thing more than the main title right now. Like, the Nubia book and Wonder Girl are both really great, and I especially love the renewed focus on the world-building Perez and his collaborators did on the Post-Crisis era stuff. I know it's not a totally perfect match for every viewpoint on trans identity, but using the Well Of Souls to introduce trans Amazons is a super clever approach and a great example of using existing lore in a refreshing and inclusive way.

Which book is this in?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Vandar posted:

Which book is this in?

Nubia & The Amazons. It is fairly subtle, but there's a few lines that point to it and the writers have confirmed it. As a lead-in to the event that's gonna run through the WW titles next year, the Well opened again and new Amazons emerged for the first time in ages, one of whom is a Black trans woman.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Nubia is funny to me because the character right now is written to have had this in-depth profound history with Diana and Hippolyta and even Artemis and all the other Amazons but it's like. None of it exists. It's all being made up on the fly. The general editorial assumption seems to be that this is a classic silver age character so clearly we should write her as if she's had a lot of classic comic book history except...not really, no, even in pre-Crisis the whole point was that she didn't grow up on Paradise Island and so had no background with Diana, and in post-Crisis she might've appeared in like one issue ever, and this Infinite Frontier character is just a brand new person so it's...not actually super clear why she's queen now or even what the character has ever really done up to this point, but everyone both in-text and editorially are like "Good for Nubia! She's finally getting her due! :buddy:"

I mean, I don't mind it, and I'm enjoying the world-building here, but it's just funny. I keep trying to think of a similar situation to this one and there are really none that can compare. It'd be like if...hell I dunno, if Spyke from X-Men: Evolution all of a sudden shows up on Krakoa, but he's ruling the Council because this character who's never had any stories written about him had been close friends with all the other members all long.

frameset
Apr 13, 2008

You'd have more of a point if DC cared as much about continuity as you seem to.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I mean they quite clearly care, they just aren’t very good at it

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

DC Dark Ages was almost predictably great. You want an AU, you give it to Tom Taylor and you'll have a good time. We now pause for the ceremonial confusing of Tom Taylor with Tom King and somebody asking how much misery porn Dark Ages is.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


It’s a big Tom day. Human Target also started today. Anybody check it out?

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Open Marriage Night posted:

It’s a big Tom day. Human Target also started today. Anybody check it out?

Is that the new Tom King comic?

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Yeah. With the JLI. The art looks amazing.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Then no, I won't be checking it out

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Roth posted:

Then no, I won't be checking it out

You don't want to read a book about a jli member killing the human target?

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk
yall i been reading the classic suicide squad run by john ostrander and company and

its loving soooooo good

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

OnimaruXLR posted:

yall i been reading the classic suicide squad run by john ostrander and company and

its loving soooooo good

I reread the whole run this summer, leading up to the new movie. It was so ahead of its time, and it has aged so well! I always think of Ostrander's Suicide Squad and Giffen and DeMatteis' JLI together because they both debuted in the Legends miniseries, had their #1 issues come out at the same time, crossed over in their #13 issues, and spotlighted lesser-known characters to make them fan favorites for decades to come. Plus, they both featured more naturalistic dialogue, which is the biggest reason I think they were ahead of their time and have aged well, compared to the more "old-fashioned," overwrought, melodramatic, exposition-heavy dialogue in a book like Crisis on Infinite Earths, just a year before, which is a much harder read by modern standards.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Batman/Superman and the Authority was a neat little book even if only Midnighter and Enchantress were the only two other than the titular characters that were relevant. This Dark Universe Batman was definitely one of the more interesting ones too, even if just as a concept.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Dawgstar posted:

DC Dark Ages was almost predictably great. You want an AU, you give it to Tom Taylor and you'll have a good time. We now pause for the ceremonial confusing of Tom Taylor with Tom King and somebody asking how much misery porn Dark Ages is.

What is the plot of DC Dark Ages?
As Tom Taylor was supposed to do a Marvel AU series called Marvel: Dark Ages about the Marvel Earth where technology stops working.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

The Question IRL posted:

What is the plot of DC Dark Ages?
As Tom Taylor was supposed to do a Marvel AU series called Marvel: Dark Ages about the Marvel Earth where technology stops working.

It's called Dark Knight, not Dark Ages, I haven't read it but it's Bat Family centric and I think involves them being in the dark ages. So between that and the fact he's simultaneously writing a Marvel series called Dark Ages, I can understand the name confusion.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
I'm debating picking up Dark knight or just trade waiting for it. DC seems to be putting out a few interesting looking mini series where the temptation to trade wait is just too strong.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
It's actually called Dark Knights of Steel if people want to check it out.

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CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

The Question IRL posted:

What is the plot of DC Dark Ages?
As Tom Taylor was supposed to do a Marvel AU series called Marvel: Dark Ages about the Marvel Earth where technology stops working.

He is doing that issue 3 comes out next month

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