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mossyfisk posted:Having an ebook on hand is useful for discussing minutiae. Also I reread Dune last week.
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Gabriel Grub posted:I am sure that watching at home is a fine experience. Over the past year and a half I honestly think it's just marketing lines you have to deliver per WB if you direct a $$$$ level movie for them. The director-equivalent of when WB marketing had Will Smith/etc. claiming all that stuff about Jared Leto (when he's already enough of an actual creep irl without the made up poo poo).
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I had a great time watching it at home because I didn't have to miss a bunch of the movie taking 2 bathroom breaks, I could also turn on subtitles and hear a lot of the mumbly dialog.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:No it isn't, the guild clearly hadn't considered it before Paul threatened it. I think you mean, "The GUILD does not take YOUR ORDERS."
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William Bear posted:I think you mean, "The GUILD does not take YOUR ORDERS." That dude is obv high on spice.
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Navigator Jazz Hands!
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the guild navigators don't actually need the spice to navigate. it's just really stressful and they need to blow off a lot of steam after.,
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galagazombie posted:How exactly do the Fremen bribe the Guild with spice? They don’t have the fancy shmancy carryalls and giant mobile mining rigs. They can’t possibly just be grabbing handfuls of sand and waving them in front of navigators can they? i figured the fremen spice is small batch handmade sustainable melange, which they can do because they have vast tracks of unmonitored lands. the industrial extraction is probably way more efficient and generates incredible volume comparatively but since spice is so valuable even a little off-books spice is enough to keep the satellites off.
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Nov 3, 2021 20:13
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how would they even have satellites without computers have they duct taped mentats with space suits into a ball and dropped them in space
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Nov 3, 2021 20:18
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ChubbyChecker posted:how would they even have satellites without computers
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Nov 3, 2021 20:23
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ChubbyChecker posted:how would they even have satellites without computers Early spy satellites took pictures on film and dropped the results back to earth in a little capsule. The US did this from 1960 to 1976, when they started using digital transmission: https://www.spacelegalissues.com/the-history-of-spy-satellites/ The technology of the Dune universe clearly includes miniaturized electronics (consider the hunter-seeker etc.), even if there is a ban on advanced general-purpose computers. You could transmit high-quality analog images from a satellite without using a computer at all.
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The appendix of Dune outlines the Butlerian Jihad as a war on thinking machines and conscious robots and quotes the thing about not making a machine in the likeness of a human mind. There's a fair bit of difference between enough code to transmit imaging techniques taken via satellite and a computer that's indistinguishable from a human. EDIT: And Dune Messiah has a "brainless automaton" as way of training. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The appendix of Dune outlines the Butlerian Jihad as a war on thinking machines and conscious robots and quotes the thing about not making a machine in the likeness of a human mind. well they aren't allowed to use like, Microsoft Excel either so it is a bit vague
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when they play video games with mentats, are nipples or dick the controller
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strictly speaking computers should be fine as long as they don't pass the turing test
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punishedkissinger posted:well they aren't allowed to use like, Microsoft Excel either so it is a bit vague If you have someone who can reason that way on so few clues, you don't need LibreOffice Calc. EDIT: And that's before Paul is a full mentat - which he never becomes, on account of being something else... a freak! BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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what about like a TI-83 calculator? is that going to get me executed by the orange catholic inquisition?
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if you need more computational power, can you connect mentats into a human centipede?
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In parallel or serial?
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The Tleilaxu are coming from inside the thread.
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I'm not sure how this never crossed my mind before but, is Gaius part of Mohiams name, or is it a title? You know, like the way you might say Gaius Julius Caesar.
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adamantium|wang posted:In parallel or serial? human centipedes are inherently serial
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Shaddak posted:I'm not sure how this never crossed my mind before but, is Gaius part of Mohiams name, or is it a title? You know, like the way you might say Gaius Julius Caesar. All the Reverend Mothers seem to take a Latin male pronomen up until God Emperor, but the practice has ceased by the time of Heretics. I don’t think it’s a title. we never see the same name used twice that I can think of. But it may well signify Reverend Motherhood that you have one, since Jessica doesn’t. Maybe based on a practice in some orders of real-world Catholic nuns, where they can take a male saint’s name upon joining (think Sister Michael on Derry Girls) though I don’t think it’s ever considered obligatory. skasion fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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euphronius posted:DV’s obsession with people seeing this theaters was strange . It was fine on a tv. I guess he gets less money with less box office idk In IMAX the sound was so good I thought I was getting schizophrenia. loving spectacular.
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Nov 3, 2021 21:53
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My head turning to spot a worm on the corner of the giant screen....man it was great.
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ChubbyChecker posted:if you need more computational power, can you connect mentats into a human centipede?
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Shaddak posted:I'm not sure how this never crossed my mind before but, is Gaius part of Mohiams name, or is it a title? You know, like the way you might say Gaius Julius Caesar. Gaius was a very common Roman first name (derived from Gaea).
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I watched it in IMAX and a regular theater, and in the regular theatre I was able to make out way more dialog. The Litany of Fear for example was inaudible in the IMAX showing I saw. One question for TV-watchers, how did they mix the Voice? In IMAX they did it by ducking the sound completely and pushing the vocals through IMAX-sized subwoofers, but that wouldn't work for TV that might not have such a bass channel, so they must have done something different. At the very least you're missing out on a cool IMAX effect.
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ChubbyChecker posted:if you need more computational power, can you connect mentats into a human centipede? Along the same lines, how many mentats do you need for a decent Bitcoin mining rig? Trying to fund my invasion of Arrakis without dipping into 60 years of spice profits
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euphronius posted:They could have a guy in a satellite radioing in info Showing the corpse of the dude the Harkonnens sealed into the wall was one of my favorite shots of the movie. I bet, as he was laying there, waiting for the Atriedes to arrive, he thought, "Maybe a machine in the likeness of a human mind should be doing this".
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Admiralty Flag posted:Along the same lines, how many mentats do you need for a decent Bitcoin mining rig? Budget for year 10191: (Harkonnen) Black goo - 5 solarii Suspensor batteries - 8 solarii 10 legions of Saudaukar - 5,000,000,000 solarii Please help with my budget my house is dying.
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At home with a decent sound system, the Voice is the same, they drive the dialog hard over the bass channel and it sounds incredible. I have a 7.X system so my viewing, twice now, at home has been very good.
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priznat posted:Budget for year 10191: (Harkonnen) Spend less on heart-plugged slaves
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NmareBfly posted:i figured the fremen spice is small batch handmade sustainable melange, which they can do because they have vast tracks of unmonitored lands. the industrial extraction is probably way more efficient and generates incredible volume comparatively but since spice is so valuable even a little off-books spice is enough to keep the satellites off. Edric. Step into my office. This is panda. From Harg Pass. Very good stuff. And that's bava. Different, but equally good. And that is choco. From the mountains near Sietch Tabr. Now the first two are the same. $300b a kilo. These are friend prices. But this one, is a little more expensive. This is $500b a kilo. But...when you gas it. You will know where that extra money went. Now there's nothing wrong with these two, this is real, real good poo poo. But this one is a loving madman. Remember, I just got back from Ix. Am I an offworlder? Are we in Arakeen? No. You're in my sietch. Now Fremen who know the difference between good poo poo and bad poo poo? This is the sietch they come to. Now, my poo poo? I'll take the Pepsi challenge with that Ixian poo poo. Any old day of the fuckin week. That's a bold statement.
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Bubblyblubber posted:Spend less on heart-plugged slaves Never!
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So crazy tinfoil hat theory I’ve had awhile. 1: We learn the worms were mysteriously introduced from another world by agents unknown. 2: The Spice is suspiciously convenient in all the things it provides to human biology. 3: A big theme of the books is the “Prescience Trap” where prescience inevitably leads to stagnation and extinction. 4: Spice is highly and lethally addictive so you can’t just stop even if you realize the prescience trap. Conclusion: the prescience trap is a literal trap. The Worms and Spice are a poison chalice designed by Leto II’s “great enemy” from his visions to lure in and cripple/kill species.
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Roko's basilisk is literal 400 meter worms led by a prosthetic interspecies penis murdering billions across the galaxy. Yeah, this tracks actually.
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galagazombie posted:So crazy tinfoil hat theory I’ve had awhile.
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