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AnimeIsTrash posted:One of the leaders of NAM to bouncing on America's dick. Absolutely shameful, gently caress Modi. WE ARE BECOMING SUPERPOOPER
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Nov 4, 2021 05:52
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this is a really good dunk and all but does China really treat its homeless better than the US? i mean this as a serious question because when she says that she doesn’t see homeless people on the street this strikes me as the opinion of someone who is really well off in a big city and that they ‘call the cops to remove them from the city to their hometowns’ it sounds kinda sinister when you think of anti-homeless policies as they’re actually practiced around the world, also maybe China has a strict ‘there is no homelessness in China’ propaganda policy, maybe I’m wrong but if someone with a fair and balanced view on how China can show me something that talks about how actually treats homelessness and destitution then that would be nice.
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Nov 4, 2021 05:54
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Al-Saqr posted:this is a really good dunk and all but does China really treat its homeless better than the US? i mean this as a serious question because when she says that she doesn’t see homeless people on the street this strikes me as the opinion of someone who is really well off in a big city and that they ‘call the cops to remove them from the city to their hometowns’ it sounds kinda sinister when you think of anti-homeless policies as they’re actually practiced around the world, also maybe China has a strict ‘there is no homelessness in China’ propaganda policy, maybe I’m wrong but if someone with a fair and balanced view on how China can show me something that talks about how actually treats homelessness and destitution then that would be nice. They feed the homeless to the uighurs
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Nov 4, 2021 06:20
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There are definitely homeless people in Chinese cities, it would be ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
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Nov 4, 2021 06:26
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Jose posted:i wish pangzai would make more videos but they probably weren't healthy for him This is the real epic meal time, all of his content kicks rear end and he's a hero imo. Tbh his life seems pretty sweet, good for him.
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Nov 4, 2021 06:30
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Bro Dad posted:the CIA propped up the LDP after the war against the left and japanese electoral districts are insanely weighted towards rural areas, leading to decades of pork barrel clientelism also japan was basically a planned economy run out of the ministry of financy geared toward consumer goods and the elections were used to get regional goodies for local power brokers
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Nov 4, 2021 06:36
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Top City Homo posted:basically a planned economy run out of the ministry of financy geared toward consumer goods and the elections were used to get regional goodies for local power brokers lol it would be nice if the US could do even that
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Nov 4, 2021 06:40
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Grapplejack posted:You only really need, at most, 500 nuclear weapons; at that point you can destroy all life on earth, nevermind beating your enemy or whatever. you could maybe kill all the humans. but no way you could kill all life
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Nov 4, 2021 06:40
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Mr Hootington posted:I wonder why the online libs went from hating "chuds" to hating "tankies" when biden was elected. they hate their own country and people
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Nov 4, 2021 07:15
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Top City Homo posted:they hate their own country and people
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Nov 4, 2021 07:16
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Mantis42 posted:There are definitely homeless people in Chinese cities, it would be ridiculous to pretend otherwise. sure, but with a home ownership ratio of over 90 percent (higher in rural areas) the proportions are very different. anecdotally i've been all over beijing, including several suburbs and i can count the number of times i've seen an honest-to-god-carrying-everything-they-own homeless person on one hand. you do see beggars more often (and they have qr codes now) but they don't have their worldly possessions with them, which suggests they do have a dwelling to return to.
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Nov 4, 2021 07:20
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hot witch divorcee posted:it is authoritarian to tell me to stop making GBS threads my pants and then tossing it into the nearby drinking water reservoir, but i respect that other people in some other place living in a dystopian nightmare where they are not allowed to throw their shitpants into the drinking water reservoir might weather what's coming better, though i hear they have bedtimes so maybe we should just invade what is the point of debate and discussion of topics if everyone just shits the bed and continues doing what they want? The USA is basically an anarchist society and it needs democratic centralism
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Nov 4, 2021 07:24
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hot witch divorcee posted:it is authoritarian to tell me to stop making GBS threads my pants and then tossing it into the nearby drinking water reservoir, but i respect that other people in some other place living in a dystopian nightmare where they are not allowed to throw their shitpants into the drinking water reservoir might weather what's coming better, though i hear they have bedtimes so maybe we should just invade  the american way
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Nov 4, 2021 07:26
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gradenko_2000 posted:lol it would be nice if the US could do even that it was a good system because they were integrated into the world economy and didn't have to fear constant sabotage and encirclement or spend any money on the military of course when the usa found out that the Japanese economy was leaping over them they told them to liberalize and the whole thing has been downhill since Chicago boys trained psychopaths blew up their economy in 1993 on command from DC but China is now doing that on steroids and no DC diktats are going to work this time death to the new british empire and the financial parasites who run it
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Nov 4, 2021 07:37
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Re: homelessness in China, it is indeed rare. Two major components, one good, one bad. Good: Pretty much anyone can request and be given a lovely non-job ("keep this 50m stretch of road clean) that gives food and a place to live. It's not possible to be homeless unless you're unable or unwilling to do that. However, that situation is still not great, and some people with mental illness are indeed unable or unwilling. Bad: If you are sufficiently mentally ill to be unable to do that, you may well end up confined in the mental healthcare system, and that's... not good. Very not good. Either way, not likely to be homeless.
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Nov 4, 2021 07:52
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Atopian posted:Pretty much anyone can request and be given a lovely non-job ("keep this 50m stretch of road clean) that gives food and a place to live. It's not possible to be homeless unless you're unable or unwilling to do that. man this seems like a plum deal in the harsh light of 2021
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Nov 4, 2021 07:57
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I have heard somebody mentioned that sometimes homeless people from the rural side were sent back to where they are according to their hukou residency and there are local wealthfare system that give some money to them to live off. The cost of living is a lot lower in the countryside so people can survive on meager wealthfare check. I don't know whether this is major or minor component of the homeless problem. However this has nothing to do with the "professional" beggars in the big cities because they make good money begging and don't want to leave their begging jobs.
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Nov 4, 2021 08:16
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gradenko_2000 posted:man this seems like a plum deal in the harsh light of 2021 It genuinely wasn't a criticism. The ability to be guaranteed (some sort of) food and shelter in exchange for (some sort of) work is a positive thing. Lots of other problems with the system, but that's a minor good point. Would be better if the conditions were better.
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Nov 4, 2021 09:26
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as someone who has lived in china for 6 years (1 in wuhan, 5 in beijing) and travelled all over it, homelessness is extremely rare. I wont say I havent seen it (or pretty severe poverty) but compared to america its nothing. You can see more homeless people under one freeway in LA (where I'm from) then I've seen in all my time in china. what other people are saying in this thread is true, it is extremely easy to get a job that pays enough to live, or will even give you a place to live (like pretty much every restaurant in bj will offer its workers a dorm). Now the jobs are pretty poo poo and the pay isnt very good, but you only really starve by choice. I'm not too sure on what they do for disabled people. I'm pretty sure you'd have to stay where your hukou is (residency) and theyd take care of you in some way, either welfare or a job that pays enough. I'll ask my wife later. pollution is a lot better now than it used to be, but this is a bad time to ask. beijing has been horribly polluted for like a week now. really depressing. probably going to be a bad winter as well because they've been using a lot of coal because of some power outages. edit: while we're talking about it, something thats really cool about china is that wages are somewhat standardized and publicized. Like if I apply for a job at a restaurant I know what the salary/benefits will be. taxes are also much lower on most people than in America, although this is hard to quantify as all salaries are discussed after tax, so maybe the govt is taking a lot and I dont know about it. Mirello has issued a correction as of 13:11 on Nov 4, 2021 |
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Nov 4, 2021 13:08
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Atopian posted:Good: drat, communism rules
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Nov 4, 2021 13:43
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Atopian posted:Good: I'm a computer toucher and this sounds like more actual work than I do in a day. What makes it a non job?
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Nov 4, 2021 13:50
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Mirello posted:edit: while we're talking about it, something thats really cool about china is that wages are somewhat standardized and publicized. Like if I apply for a job at a restaurant I know what the salary/benefits will be. taxes are also much lower on most people than in America, although this is hard to quantify as all salaries are discussed after tax, so maybe the govt is taking a lot and I dont know about it. the government doesn't really need to collect taxes. its not like they need to obtain more of their own tokens which they can make themselves in unlimited quantity
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Nov 4, 2021 13:50
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I'm a computer toucher and this sounds like more actual work than I do in a day. What makes it a non job? as a computer toucher you have access to the imperial profits of the capitalists. you are given more resources than you physically produce because you help facilitate the current class structure
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Nov 4, 2021 13:55
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Rutibex posted:the government doesn't really need to collect taxes. its not like they need to obtain more of their own tokens which they can make themselves in unlimited quantity But...but but how will they pay for it!
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Nov 4, 2021 13:59
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Not sounds like, it IS more work than I do in a day, probably a week.
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Nov 4, 2021 14:00
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Some Guy TT posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1455909280217923593 lol i clicked through to see if there was more and right after this the guy launches into an unhinged rant about how climate change is overblown and everything will be fine actually guys
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Nov 4, 2021 14:06
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Serf posted:lol i clicked through to see if there was more and right after this the guy launches into an unhinged rant about how climate change is overblown and everything will be fine actually guys well if he's right then all China managed to do is ensure that it has enough energy for its national needs regardless of Western attempts at strangling its access to petroleum seems like that would be a useful thing to have regardless! AnimeIsTrash posted:I'm a computer toucher and this sounds like more actual work than I do in a day. What makes it a non job? I think "non-job" is being used in a "make work" context here, as in "we technically don't need someone dedicated to just making sure that a stretch of road is clean, but we'll assign you to doing it if it means we get to justify providing you with room and board"
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Nov 4, 2021 14:16
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lol what's the story with that red text?
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Nov 4, 2021 14:24
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Mirello posted:pollution is a lot better now than it used to be, but this is a bad time to ask. beijing has been horribly polluted for like a week now. really depressing. probably going to be a bad winter as well because they've been using a lot of coal because of some power outages. it's been a bad week compared to the last six months but still no days with an aqi over 200. that was my metric for wearing a mask pre-pandemic.
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Nov 4, 2021 14:27
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I'm a computer toucher and this sounds like more actual work than I do in a day. What makes it a non job? A combination of "this job doesn't really need doing (to the extent that it is)" and "if you did want it done, one person could handle at least 10x the workload". The job exists because it is decided that people need jobs, basically. Western Europe has welfare, China has make-work, the US has... what is has. There are legitimate arguments to be made for either of the first two, given that each has significant downsides that get subjectively ranked according to ideology.¿
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Nov 4, 2021 15:01
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Jeff Fatwood posted:lol what's the story with that red text? I have no idea. It's not even something I said, which was the last time I got a red text.
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Nov 4, 2021 15:05
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gradenko_2000 posted:I have no idea. It's not even something I said, which was the last time I got a red text. i thought it was another reference to beria
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Nov 4, 2021 15:24
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Most homeless people in America would probably be locked up in China because drug consumption is criminalized in China. The hukou system is the reason why there's aren't (or not to the same extent anyway) slums in major Chinese cities in the manner of India or Brazil. It exists basically because regional governments didn't want to be responsible for migrants from other regions and there wasn't any structural way for resources to be transferred efficiently from one region to another. Similar systems of household registration existed for the same reasons throughout Japan, Korea and Taiwan, at least until relatively recently. White sexpat reporters have endless dumb takes about it because white sexpats overwhelmingly only have contact with certain segments of the population (KTV and massage parlor workers in cities who do not hold hukou in those cities) that would benefit from a specific change in the policy. Beijing is peculiarly situated in a location where it gets hit by seasonal sandstorms from the Gobi desert, so even pre-industrialization, it was a dirty mess of a place to live. It was from the beginning a military outpost first, no one actually wants to live there.
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Nov 4, 2021 16:53
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Serf posted:lol i clicked through to see if there was more and right after this the guy launches into an unhinged rant about how climate change is overblown and everything will be fine actually guys Shellenberger has been saying that for like 20 years, he's one of those "the free market will technologically innovate its way out of climate change, we don't need to worry  " guys and im sure gets paid handsomely to do it
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Nov 4, 2021 17:18
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thalweg posted:Shellenberger has been saying that for like 20 years, he's one of those "the free market will technologically innovate its way out of climate change, everything will be fine we don't need to worry the chicago economist: the free market innovates against problems and climate change is no different the Guangxi marxist/CPC general school theoretician: historical problems require historical solutions; only through the combined might of the working class, directed with forward-thinking purpose, we can overcome those obstacles in the great striving for communism. wo hen gaoxing, bntch
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Nov 4, 2021 17:27
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incidentally I googled about theoretician courses in china and holy loving poo poo so much awesome stuff School of Marxism Studies, Nanjing Normal University http://schools.njnu.edu.cn/marx/about quote:The college has formed a disciplinary platform of Marxist theory which has complete disciplines, prominent features and obvious advantages. It has the national key discipline of the basic principles of Marxism. Marxist theory is the provincial key discipline of Jiangsu, superior discipline in the universities of Jiangsu province and the cultivation points of national key disciplines in Jiangsu province. The college has Marxism Research Institute which is the key research base of the Education Department of Jiangsu Province, the research base of the theoretical system of socialism with Chinese characteristics and the training and studying base of the Ministry of Education and Jiangsu Province for college counselors. School of Marxism, Fudan University https://www.fudan.edu.cn/en/2019/0513/c295a96648/page.htm (incredibly web 1.0 posting energies) quote:The school offers doctoral program for first-level discipline category of theory of Marxism, which includes 6 secondary disciplines: Basic theory of Marxism, Study of localization of Marxism in China, Ideological and Political Education, the Party Building, the Development History of Marxism and Study of Marxism Abroad and another doctoral program for first-level discipline category of political science, which includes the History of the Communist Party of China, Scientific Socialism and International Communist Movement. The school is the first batch of doctoral program station and post-doctoral working station in the first-level discipline category of “Theory of Marxism”, what is more, Theory of Marxism ranks A in national discipline evaluation. Our “Basic Theory of Marxism” is the key discipline supported by government and “Theory of Marxism” is selected as the first-rate Peak (in Chinese: Gaofeng) discipline of Shanghai. School of Marxism, Guangxi University https://my.gxu.edu.cn/ quote:Guangxi University has a glorious history and fine tradition of Marxist research. In 1903, the first principal, Mr. Ma Junwu, first translated and introduced the classic works of Marxism in the Chinese periodical "Compilation of Translations" in the form of a bibliographic list of five works by Marx and Engels, including the "Manifesto of the Communist Party" and "Das Kapital". In the middle and late 1930s, Mr. Li Da, one of the founders of the Communist Party of China, and Mr. Chen Wangdao, the first full Chinese translation of the Manifesto of the Communist Party, both taught at Guangxi University. In 1950 , Professor Yang Dongxin, a Marxist theorist, served as the president of Guangxi University. School of Marxism, Peking University https://wcm.pku.edu.cn/english/biwcm/index.htm quote:In April 1992，Peking University founded the first school of Marxism in China. Along with rapid growth for two decades, School of Marxism is now conferring Master and PhD degree. Besides to its candidates, there are three second class Master and PhD subjects, including Marxist Philosophy, Political Economy, Scientific Socialism and International Communist Movements (National Key Subjects). Further, School of Marxism has Education Ministry’s key research unit— Research Center for Theoretical System of the Socialism with Chinese Characteristics, Beijing philosophy and social science key research unit—Research Center for the Development of Chinese Marxism.
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Nov 4, 2021 17:45
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https://twitter.com/ericadamsfornyc/status/1456311827550384129?s=21 This is the mayor of the largest city in the US. Bitcoin is banned in China. It’s starting to be embarrassingly obvious who’s gonna win this new Cold War.
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Nov 4, 2021 21:18
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dead gay comedy forums posted:incidentally I googled about theoretician courses in china and holy loving poo poo so much awesome stuff Actually more and more convinced Bitcoin is a CIA op to make it easier for them to transmit and launder money every day ngl.
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Nov 5, 2021 00:26
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gonna get a PhD in marxism and insist people address me as 'doctor' like first lady dr jill biden
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Nov 5, 2021 01:06
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crepeface posted:gonna get a PhD in marxism and insist people address me as 'doctor' like first lady dr jill biden emphasis of class, you've failed. return your phd
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