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hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

Clearly the Melvins and Corrosion of Conformity were far more industrial than FLA after deep analysis.

I guess the Melvins will play with anyone. Buzz doesn't seem like the kinda guy that would tolerate Al, but maybe I'm wrong. Still, the line up of that tour gels better with Ministry's sound for the last decade or so, yeah?

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

hatelull posted:

Clearly the Melvins and Corrosion of Conformity were far more industrial than FLA after deep analysis.

I guess the Melvins will play with anyone. Buzz doesn't seem like the kinda guy that would tolerate Al, but maybe I'm wrong. Still, the line up of that tour gels better with Ministry's sound for the last decade or so, yeah?

FLA has (had?) Skold on guitar for this tour so they probably would've meshed pretty well.

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams
EK Product is releasing my first official album. It's called Revenant. Do I put that in the goon self-promotion thread?

boo_radley
Dec 30, 2005

Politeness costs nothing

Auritech posted:

EK Product is releasing my first official album. It's called Revenant. Do I put that in the goon self-promotion thread?

and here, hype it up!

2DCAT
Jun 25, 2015

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Gravy Boat 2k

boo_radley posted:

and here, hype it up!

Well pissssss, guess I should have been posting my [:SITD:], Frozen Plasma and Grendal collabs lol. Anyways, FP is back on tour... Ask Vasi to work with me more in the future please, tia

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams

boo_radley posted:

and here, hype it up!

It releases November 26th! It's half a compilation of stuff I've been working on for 20+ years and half new stuff that I've been mostly working on in quiet since I moved to Tokyo. But I finally found a label that is enthusiastic about what I do, so I'm excited even though it feels surreal and I know I have a lot of work to do to get as many ears on it as I can.

the label's page for it is here: http://www.ekproduct.com/releases/tangent-strategy-revenant/

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
Igorrr release the making off documentary for spirituality and distortion.
"My favourite instrument was the polenta pouring on baking paper" he says while the best is clearly the squeaky chair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0B4Zddc9j0

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off
Suicide Commando is back with a new single, it's a halloween themed track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIxJsU3NQd8
While I'm not the biggest fan of SC I find their stuff pretty funny just because it's always so angry and edgy, guess that comes with the genre.

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams
One last post about Revenant, if you can please excuse me for my enthusiasm. My record label said this about it on their Facebook page:

"We're back! OUT november 26th 2021 "REVENANT" by solo underground act Tangent Strategy, US electro-industrial-power noise project based in Japan. A hymn to softwares, a triumphant succession of industrial, ebm, powernoise harmonies made up according to the episodes of cold midtempo drum programming lines, effervescent punctuation of sequencers, disturbing transmissions, electronic vortexes, caustic frequencies, cosmic effects, unadorned synth symphonies and vocals ranging from threatening harsh emissions to poisonous reverberated whispers.
GET READY "

It's not what I would have thought to say about myself but I appreciate it! The distribution is being handled by Audioglobe so it should be worldwide and go to the normal industrial music specialist retailers, but I'll have a few copies for sale too once the release date hits and if anyone is interested, just throw me a PM.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Auritech posted:

One last post about Revenant, if you can please excuse me for my enthusiasm. My record label said this about it on their Facebook page:

"We're back! OUT november 26th 2021 "REVENANT" by solo underground act Tangent Strategy, US electro-industrial-power noise project based in Japan. A hymn to softwares, a triumphant succession of industrial, ebm, powernoise harmonies made up according to the episodes of cold midtempo drum programming lines, effervescent punctuation of sequencers, disturbing transmissions, electronic vortexes, caustic frequencies, cosmic effects, unadorned synth symphonies and vocals ranging from threatening harsh emissions to poisonous reverberated whispers.
GET READY "

It's not what I would have thought to say about myself but I appreciate it! The distribution is being handled by Audioglobe so it should be worldwide and go to the normal industrial music specialist retailers, but I'll have a few copies for sale too once the release date hits and if anyone is interested, just throw me a PM.

Hey this sounds like very much my poo poo, will def look out for the release! Does the label release digitally through bandcamp do you know, or just their own site?

also speaking of releases, I have a new one of my own. A self-released industrial/EBM six-track EP, PWYW on bandcamp. It's on spotify too if BC isn't your scene https://trellick.bandcamp.com/album/fathom

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Hey this sounds like very much my poo poo, will def look out for the release! Does the label release digitally through bandcamp do you know, or just their own site?

EK Product does have a Bandcamp but not all of their releases are on that page, and most of their artists maintain their own bc pages separately. Their emphasis is on physical releases and they primarily distribute through Audioglobe, an Italian label/distributor, so probably the usual suspects of industrial music online stores will have it for physical purchase.

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


Danger - Octopus! posted:

Hey this sounds like very much my poo poo, will def look out for the release! Does the label release digitally through bandcamp do you know, or just their own site?

also speaking of releases, I have a new one of my own. A self-released industrial/EBM six-track EP, PWYW on bandcamp. It's on spotify too if BC isn't your scene https://trellick.bandcamp.com/album/fathom

so far i'm only a minute or so into the first track on your bandcamp link but this is rad, thanks for the link!

Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

Danger - Octopus! posted:

Hey this sounds like very much my poo poo, will def look out for the release! Does the label release digitally through bandcamp do you know, or just their own site?

also speaking of releases, I have a new one of my own. A self-released industrial/EBM six-track EP, PWYW on bandcamp. It's on spotify too if BC isn't your scene https://trellick.bandcamp.com/album/fathom

This is great!

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
Just realized a new Sturm Cafe album came out.. in February :eng99:

I really, really, really like Sturm Café, but this just doesn't seem to have any bangers. How can the folks who made Europa put out a sequel without any well-composed EBM on it? :(

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Someone affirm my decision to buy a Project Pitchfork ticket in Berlin in February for a solo trip from Canada. I just want to go away somewhere to distract from separation. Never been to Germany.

Regret missing the Helsinki Industrial festival ... didn't know about it until just after. Would have been worth it for Ashbury Heights, Covenant, Hoccico. Also I have friends in Tallinn.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



teethgrinder posted:

Someone affirm my decision to buy a Project Pitchfork ticket in Berlin in February for a solo trip from Canada. I just want to go away somewhere to distract from separation. Never been to Germany.

I'll be there too baby :) I've had a ticket to the show for like two years.

Do it, it'll own. I'll introduce you to crazy German fans and you'll have the time of your life flipping out to Conjure in da pit

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER

teethgrinder posted:

Someone affirm my decision to buy a Project Pitchfork ticket in Berlin in February for a solo trip from Canada. I just want to go away somewhere to distract from separation. Never been to Germany.

Regret missing the Helsinki Industrial festival ... didn't know about it until just after. Would have been worth it for Ashbury Heights, Covenant, Hoccico. Also I have friends in Tallinn.

I am here to enable you

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Done.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



See you in Berlin :getin: You’ll have a great time in Germany!

We’ll PM later, for now let’s just hope they have their poo poo together in Feb

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!

a cyborg mug posted:

I'll be there too baby :) I've had a ticket to the show for like two years.

Do it, it'll own. I'll introduce you to crazy German fans and you'll have the time of your life flipping out to Conjure in da pit

Listen to this person. Join their party. Live love laugh.
But 100% do this if it's possible. I saw WGT when I was 24ish, first time in Germany. It was rad as gently caress and I think about it here 18 (woof) years later.

Whispering Machines
Dec 27, 2005

Monsters? They look like monsters to you?
New Jersey is definitely not as cool as Berlin or Helsinki, but my friend MORIS BLAK is playing Unconvention in NJ this weekend, and my other Brian friend is DJing the event as well.

I really wanna go to that festival in LA that HEALTH is playing, but it's Thanksgiving weekend so airfare is ridiculous.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



teethgrinder posted:

Someone affirm my decision to buy a Project Pitchfork ticket in Berlin in February for a solo trip from Canada. I just want to go away somewhere to distract from separation. Never been to Germany.

Regret missing the Helsinki Industrial festival ... didn't know about it until just after. Would have been worth it for Ashbury Heights, Covenant, Hoccico. Also I have friends in Tallinn.

To be fair, iirc all three bands you just mentioned weren’t on the original lineup for Helsinki. They went through a lot of cancellations. But yes Pitchfork puts on a great show, you’re making a good call, and Germany is a great place to visit even in February.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Yeah, I was at the Hellsinki Industrial Festival, of course. I didn't actually intend to go because the original lineup was complete dogshit, but every cancelled act and their replacement got me hootin and hollerin more and more.

Covenant always owns live, Ashbury Heights was great (even for me as someone who has never really like them much - the new songs were especially good), Priest is amazing live despite very uneven albums. Preclub with Finnish VVOV and Khroma plus Pedigree from Estonia was great stuff as well.

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."
Fallen Rib
Longshot: would anyone like a ticket to see Nitzer Ebb in Baltimore tonight November 20 in exchange for giving a friend (not me) from the DC area a ride? My friend who was going to drive broke her wrist. The ticket comes with a parking pass. :saddowns:

edit: tomorrow! not tonight


edit: ticket claimed!

DasNeonLicht fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Nov 19, 2021

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee(lectricity)

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a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



teethgrinder posted:

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee(lectricity)



Slammin

Again, hope everything isn’t hosed to hell come February. Not looking great right now

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Coil's Musick To Play In The Dark 2 is being reissued on iTunes and presumably CD in April 2022.

PinkoBastard
Oct 3, 2010

TOOT BOOT posted:

Coil's Musick To Play In The Dark 2 is being reissued on iTunes and presumably CD in April 2022.

Give me that sweet sweet vinyl…

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

So just stumbled om this band thanks to the TV show Arcane, Bones UK

https://youtu.be/w88d-uKh_Uw

https://youtu.be/1wKajUYG0zk

Also did amazing cover of I'm afraid of Americans

https://youtu.be/WjK6G-QrgNQ

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams
holy moly side-line gave me a good review

https://www.side-line.com/tangent-strategy-revenant-album-ek-product/

Konstruct
Jul 22, 2007

I'm Going To Spread Saikyo All Over The World!!

Congrats! I'll check it out today

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

At this point in time I'm no longer planning on the Berlin Pitchfork show. But if it gets postponed I'll do my best to make the new (new) date.

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams
Quick question for you all.

I'm coming up with ideas for a live show on my own (albeit, to be staged well after the current pandemic wave!), but since it's just going to be me, it's going to be very difficult to come up with a compelling show if most of my content is pre-recorded. So, what is it that makes a good industrial live show for you guys? Is it atmosphere, vibes, the vocalist's attitude, or the energy in general? I don't know many single-act live performers aside from Dirk Ivens of Dive (and world's end girlfriend if you stretch it outside industrial), and all the bigger studio project bands tend to hire guys just for the live show.

Curious to see your answers!

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Auritech posted:

Quick question for you all.

I'm coming up with ideas for a live show on my own (albeit, to be staged well after the current pandemic wave!), but since it's just going to be me, it's going to be very difficult to come up with a compelling show if most of my content is pre-recorded. So, what is it that makes a good industrial live show for you guys? Is it atmosphere, vibes, the vocalist's attitude, or the energy in general? I don't know many single-act live performers aside from Dirk Ivens of Dive (and world's end girlfriend if you stretch it outside industrial), and all the bigger studio project bands tend to hire guys just for the live show.

Curious to see your answers!

It's the energy from the stage in general for me. Check out ESA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfib9NX6Fyo for example. It's just one guy but he's bringing a lot of energy and attitude to the vocals and is triggering percussion live so he's not just hunched over staring at a laptop.

I 've seen a ton of solo laptop jockeys and tbh when it's just one or two people behind a laptop or a stack of hardware on a folding table, if they're doing something more than just hunching over staring at it, that's enough to engage me. If they're enthusiastically controlling some part of it live, or even acknowledging that most of it is pre-recorded with limited live tweaking and just dancing around then that's pretty good. When you watch Dive, it's clear the music is pre-recorded but it doesn't matter because Dirk is owning that stage. Similar some artists are clearly not doing much that's actually 'live' but are having fun behind the gear, dancing, and being more dramatic with their limited knob tweaking than a Boiler Room DJ :v:

The funny part is that some of the acts who are actually doing it all fully live are the least engaging for me IMHO because they're focussed the most on their gear. Watching someone staring intently at the table to patch and tweak a modular rig on stage for 45 minutes is only really interesting to gear nerds unless there's something else going on.

If you've got the skills (or friends who have)/necessary gear/venue setup for it yourself then visuals as a backdrop can be good though especially for solo projects where there isn't much to do on stage. Although if you're going to do that, please please don't use horror film clips or gore shots and be careful if it's military stuff because those kinds of material are a) incredibly played out and b) can be pretty problematic or offputting at the very least.

edit: basically if it's gonna be partly pre-recorded but with live vocals, own that IMO. Don't be behind the gear/laptop if you're not really using it and are just doing vocals. Be out in front if the vocals are the live part IMO and if you've got the stage space/confidence to do that

edit 2: all this is from the perspective of someone who's always in the audience rather than on stage so people who actually have performed live might have v different opinions!

Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Dec 29, 2021

Whispering Machines
Dec 27, 2005

Monsters? They look like monsters to you?
^^^ Agreed with most of the above post.

Horror clips if it fits your music (my friend is the dude behind MORIS BLAK and a lot of his music is directly influenced/inspired by horror, so he uses clips in his live shows). But like Octopus said, be mindful of gore and definitely don't include anything with sexual violence or misogyny (looking at you, Combichrist!). MB and I are both huge horror nerds so I've helped him source clips from movies and it's almost always weird/occulty type stuff (eg from Lovely Molly, Mandy, Possum etc). One of his earlier clips had a screaming woman I believe but he removed it for the aforementioned reasons.

Military, if it's anti-military/anti-war is generally fine with most industrial crowds in my experience, although I'm also in a very blue state.

Not sure what type of tech is involved, but pre-programmable lighting can be cool if it's done with colors that sync up with the music.

Some laptop and tech fiddling is fine, but to reiterate Octopus' post, if you're a vocalist then let that drive your performance!

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams
Thanks! That actually really helps because it gave me some things I hadn't thought about before, which I'll roll into my performance.

I do plan on a visual component but I don't plan on anything taken from fiction or anything particularly graphic. It's still preliminary but I have a thought about what to do, it's just finding the right clips and then stitching them together. The last time I watched a show with projections was with Manufactura and Converter way back in 2003, but the projections were not connected to the music. Oddly enough, the thing that inspired me the most to use projections was a YouTube clip of Genocide Organ in the early 00s, so I'm supposing the best course of action is to use projections that do not time to the music, but do flow with the stage.

If all goes to plan, I'll be doing my first show at a Japanese club, which has its own set of issues but we'll see how it goes.

Konstruct
Jul 22, 2007

I'm Going To Spread Saikyo All Over The World!!

Auritech posted:

Quick question for you all.

I'm coming up with ideas for a live show on my own (albeit, to be staged well after the current pandemic wave!), but since it's just going to be me, it's going to be very difficult to come up with a compelling show if most of my content is pre-recorded. So, what is it that makes a good industrial live show for you guys? Is it atmosphere, vibes, the vocalist's attitude, or the energy in general? I don't know many single-act live performers aside from Dirk Ivens of Dive (and world's end girlfriend if you stretch it outside industrial), and all the bigger studio project bands tend to hire guys just for the live show.

Curious to see your answers!

What works for me is lighting and engaging the audience. Now I have a live keyboardist but I started with just backing tracks and doing live vocals. If you have lighting that's programmed well to music it makes a huge difference. It also creates really dynamic images of your show.

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."
Fallen Rib
Boy Harsher just dropped a facemelter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vfzZg7hl7Y

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off

This is awesome! :)

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Baron Von Ghoulosh
Dec 16, 2005

There was a time when I fed from golden chalices,
but now...

Now, I feed as
an old man pees.
The new Author & Punisher got melodic?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c52RTO8fvL0&t=17s

It's beautiful!!!

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