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Other than using Dropzone terrain, does anyone have any good suggestions for 6-8mm scale terrain that I can print off, preferably on an FDM printer? Most of what I find online is scaled to the "standard" size tabletop games.
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Randalor posted:Other than using Dropzone terrain, does anyone have any good suggestions for 6-8mm scale terrain that I can print off, preferably on an FDM printer? Most of what I find online is scaled to the "standard" size tabletop games. You can take that stuff and scale it to 25%, and that's basically what they've done for Epic scale. Grim Dark Terrain do nice stuff, but you'll spend a while printing it depending on your plate size. Thingiverse had a ton last time I checked, you just need to search by the Titanicus or Epic tags. There's also plenty of stls for sale.
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Randalor posted:Other than using Dropzone terrain, does anyone have any good suggestions for 6-8mm scale terrain that I can print off, preferably on an FDM printer? Most of what I find online is scaled to the "standard" size tabletop games.
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Randalor posted:Other than using Dropzone terrain, does anyone have any good suggestions for 6-8mm scale terrain that I can print off, preferably on an FDM printer? Most of what I find online is scaled to the "standard" size tabletop games. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/imperialterrain/cendre-prime They say it's optimized for FDM.
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Verisimilidude posted:
x-post from the mini-painting thread. Really excited for the campaign!
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Electric Hobo posted:Wake's Emporium has some pretty good and cheap files https://wakesemporium.gumroad.com/l/UuZAXj. I scaled this Sacrusmundus set down to about 25%, I think, and it printed fine on my lovely FDM printer https://www.myminifactory.com/objec...wargames-168180 They still looked good at 25% scale? I'll give that a try this weekend and see how well my Ender 3 Pro likes handing tiny buildings.
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Hey, just wondering - does anyone have any general tips and tricks for going up against Nurgle (as 'zons) in BB2? From what I've gathered so far, I should be steering clear of the Beast (or have one blocking its way, so it can't mark multiple players), dodge from their big tough guys, and focus on their rotters and pestigors. (Pestigors seem to be quite good, on paper. And rotters because I can hopefully take them out more easily, due to decay. Then I can hopefully outnumber them and have an edge for the rest of the game) Is that about it? I don't have much experience with Nurgle, in general
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Major Isoor posted:Hey, just wondering - does anyone have any general tips and tricks for going up against Nurgle (as 'zons) in BB2? That's pretty much it, yeah. Remember that fouling the Rotters is also going to risk greater damage via decay. Play dirty to try and establish a numbers advantage, and hopefully your Dodge holds strong and you can frustrate their attempts to strike back. They're one of the few teams that are substantially slower than you, but they also have enough models to block off the entire board with ST4+ so it's still going to be risky. I think you're unlikely to lose, but by the same token, it might be difficult for you to win.
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Squibsy posted:That's pretty much it, yeah. Remember that fouling the Rotters is also going to risk greater damage via decay. Play dirty to try and establish a numbers advantage, and hopefully your Dodge holds strong and you can frustrate their attempts to strike back. Oh, right! Thanks, I didn't think of that. Yeah that sounds good then - I'll have to see if I can get an easy foul in, on one of his best rotters. (If there is such a thing as a good rotter  )And yeah, all that STR4 concerns me...I'm hoping I can focus on 1-2 of them, knock them over, then rush past with the ball. We'll see though. Oh also, are there any guides on 'opening formations' (for lack of a better word. Arranging your guys at the start of every drive, I mean) for Amazons? Since I tend to have them laid out like this:  Apologies for the bad MS Paint job, haha This is similar to how I arranged my Lizardmen, although I gave them slightly more aggressive positioning, depending on the matchup. I dunno. It's worked alright most of the time, but I always feel like I could be doing better. I'll generally kick 1-2 spaces back from the middle on their side, too. (often one diagonal-back to whichever is their weaker side, depending on the matchup)
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You should at the very least start thinking of different setups for Offence and Defence. One thing I am fond of doing when defending as a comparatively more mobile team against a comparatively less mobile one (that usually is a bashier, lower Agility and/or lower Movement side) is to place my three line of scrimmage players all the way over to the side of the middle zone. This usually baits them into more heavily committing on that side, as they usually want to maximise their blocking against your scrimmage line, and therefore forces a looser line on the open flank that you might be able to punch through and get into their backfield to harass the ball carriers (great against slower/poor AG players.) It also helps to dictate the flow of their game, as if they can't easily switch direction on their offence due to being slower or less able to dodge, you generally know they are coming this way and you can stall them out with column defence and wait for them to make a mistake or to turn over. Additionally, these kind of lopsided setups really come into their own if you have a player with Frenzy as forcing the opponent to play to one side often ends up leading them to be in the danger zone for a crowd surf. Another thing to consider is whether your three scrimmage players should be placed in a tight line or looser formation. Again, this mostly depends on what your opponent is like. If they mostly have ST3 players then you can exert some influence on how they will deploy their front line - they almost always will seek to block each of your scrimmage players and set up to get two dicers accordingly, which can mean requiring two players per defender (for a total of six committed) if you leave space between them, whereas placing your defenders in a tight line means they can usually get two dicers and multiple attempts to hit using five of their players. Against teams that are mostly ST3, they often have more capability to dodge, and so a looser formation also maximises your spread of tackle zones, and that helps too. If they have plenty of ST4+ players, they can two dice you with ease regardless of where you are, so it matters less, but the consideration of where you want their players to go can still influence your deployment choices. Offensive setups with a team like amazons should try to focus on concentrating your block players in whichever part of their line is weakest, and giving you plenty of free players so that you can assemble a screen to prevent a counter-attack. You generally don't want to risk making a passing play with blanket AG3++ as it's just not reliable enough, but it can work, so having a potential receiver on your wide flank is always a good insurance policy in case your drive gets stalled. Of course, if you're lucky enough to get +MA or +AG on your players, that opens up a lot of potential, and you can start playing Elfier.
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I broke down and bought a GW AT Reaver, wow is this thing complicated.
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Well, I won! Thanks for the tips - the score was 1-0 in the end. I adjusted my existing tactics a little, and it went well. One of his warriors is out for the next game, and another died but regenerated. Not bad for me, despite a MNG! (Only a crippled liney though, so eh)
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Virtual Russian posted:I broke down and bought a GW AT Reaver, wow is this thing complicated. Magnetise the weapons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR0J9adlCEY There's a build video on the channel as well.
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So just out of curiosity, about how "fair" is a game of AT where it's 1 Warmaster against a roughly equivilant points-cost of smaller Titans?
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Randalor posted:So just out of curiosity, about how "fair" is a game of AT where it's 1 Warmaster against a roughly equivilant points-cost of smaller Titans? I think it's like any other game - the two sides might be equal, and it may be a fair fight toe to toe, but there are objectives in the game and if you can't obtain those objectives, you're gonna lose the game.
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With all the Blood Bowl/BB2 talk I'm seeing.. I figure I ought to make people aware that plenty of tabletop leagues are now coming out of hibernation. Confirming that the 2020 rules are pretty great and that nothing beats playing across the pitch from your opponent. I can put people in touch with leagues in the US Northeast- just hit me up with a PM. Our own league is just north of Boston (and happy to take more!)
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Woodstock posted:Confirming that the 2020 rules are pretty great Can you go into more detail? My main BB friend plays in a lot of league stuff and said they're generally iffy to unhappy with it. I think his main complaints were star player stuff.
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Randalor posted:So just out of curiosity, about how "fair" is a game of AT where it's 1 Warmaster against a roughly equivilant points-cost of smaller Titans? On planet bowling ball it would be rough, if it were reasonable cover reasonably fair, given you could get a scout titan or two round the back. Basically lighter, fast units should be able to get round the back and stuck keep stabbing it in the ankles until it dies. Have you considered Cerastus knight lancers?
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Thundercloud posted:On planet bowling ball it would be rough, if it were reasonable cover reasonably fair, given you could get a scout titan or two round the back. Basically lighter, fast units should be able to get round the back and stuck keep stabbing it in the ankles until it dies. Oh, no, I wasn't referring to a specific game I had coming up, just curious if it was reasonably fair, or if it was a case of "more Titans win by default because of how quickly they can strip shields and bleed it to death"/"Warmaster wins because of the sheer level of firepower it can bring to bear" or something similar.
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Bottom Liner posted:Can you go into more detail? My main BB friend plays in a lot of league stuff and said they're generally iffy to unhappy with it. I think his main complaints were star player stuff. In no particular order (specifically for league play): Skill progression has been greatly improved- it's quite a bit less luck based to always be trying to roll doubles. Less stat gains (they're expensive in terms of SPP and have their own chance built in) lets individual players stand out more. You can now be more intentional in the strategies you go for (do you save up?) for long vs short term gain in league play. The redrafting system is a huge relief for balance. I always felt like the game balance doesn't really/scale work well at the really high TV's. It's a bit of a safety valve. The redrafting system makes coaches now think more about not just player progression, but team progression between seasons, since players now don't last forever. You can spend redraft budget to intentionally keep some players around, which is a part of the cost/benefit. Credit to one of the BB podcasts (FUMBBL?) for bringing this up. I think it adds a nice dynamic and adds to more of the story that everyone participates together in for a league. Piling On is gone. Mighty Blow doesn't synergize with claws for the AV roll. Mutations teams are still pretty strong, just now there's not that instant go-to. Decay is now not quite as bad. All skeletons on Khemri now have thick skull. Khemri still a really tough team to play. The passing stat being added is huge. Now Elven teams are now longer all Harlem Globetrotters. It also makes sense... just because someone is good at running and dodging doesn't make them good throwers. I personally think Elven Union could use a tiny additional improvement to some of their PA stats but they're solidly a Tier 2 team. Black Orcs are a pretty cool team. (Snotlings were released just before BB2020 and also pretty cool.) For specifically Star Players in league play: I'm personally not very excited about a few of them being really cheap for the value they bring. For League Play the idea of star players is fine overall. Nobody in our league has used one yet. Hypothetically you could have a really tryhardy person just build a team arond taking a star player nonstop but we haven't seen that here. Also it just doens't seem like a fun thing to do on one's team. In this hypothetical case just ban certain stars in a league like Hakflem or make them cost more. Bing bang boom. For specifically Star Players in constructed tournament play: The only 'meta' I'm aware of right now are some of the stars (Morg, Hakflem, maybe another) being run with ultra low TV teams. That's happened in the big tourneys that allow em. Fortunately there's a super easy solution.... don't allow star players in tournaments! The NAF tournaments around here in the Northeast US don't use em and have been great. Maybe a future rebalancing will make Haklfem more reasonable but in the short term there's are 100% workarounds.
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Woodstock posted:In no particular order (specifically for league play): I disagree with everything you said  Edit: Except maybe your points about redrafting, but then I only ever played in single season leagues
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Squibsy posted:I disagree with everything you said Even the passing stat splitting from Agi?
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Randalor posted:Oh, no, I wasn't referring to a specific game I had coming up, just curious if it was reasonably fair, or if it was a case of "more Titans win by default because of how quickly they can strip shields and bleed it to death"/"Warmaster wins because of the sheer level of firepower it can bring to bear" or something similar. The Warmaster is pretty brutal, but the standard list building rules means you need to have a maniple (3-5 titans of varying classes) before you add a Warmaster to the list. You COULD add a warmaster to a minimum sized maniple of Warhounds, but... don't be that guy. The Warmaster has some pretty solid shielding, but it's armour is impressive enough that you really want some of the bigger titan killer weapons in the game to deal with it. With reasonable amounts of terrain, a Corsair maniple (3-5 reavers which gain some movement bonuses) armed with melee weapons could probably close fast enough and stay out of arc enough to avoid being destroyed by the Warmasters pretty punishing weapons and get into melee where they can really, really start to put the hurt on.
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Bottom Liner posted:Even the passing stat splitting from Agi? That's a change that I dislike, but which I can cope with. I don't think it improves the game in any way, but it doesn't ruin anything either.
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In AT, do the Cerastus Knights have any options for their weapons, or is it just the Questoris knights that have a few options? I'm going to assume the Cerastus knights are just spear-and-shield going by their 40k Forgeworld equivilants.
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Randalor posted:In AT, do the Cerastus Knights have any options for their weapons, or is it just the Questoris knights that have a few options? I'm going to assume the Cerastus knights are just spear-and-shield going by their 40k Forgeworld equivilants. They can also have a chainfist and flamer, or sword and bolt cannon.
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Well. gently caress. Guess I'm going to have to break out the pin vice and magnets. Can I get away with magnetising just the shoulder joint, or do I also need to do the elbow?
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The shoulder is easiest, but you might not have enough shoulder bits. I haven't magnetized mine, I just built two of each kind. The lancers are great, but I like having a couple of ranged guys for when I can't make the charge.
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The other Cerastus options have their own kit, as both those and the 40k versions they are based on have a bunch of differences. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Cerastus-Knights-Acheron-and-Castigator-2020 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Adeptus-Titanicus-Cerastus-Knights-2018 Lances are the best option though in my opinion.
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Looking at these new Sisters, I'm pretty certain I need a few more to use them in both KT and 40k. So if anyone's looking to part out a Chalnath box....
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Anarcho-Commissar posted:Do we know when? Just listen for the chorus complaining about people fielding a team of Battle Sisters and a team of Initiates.
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Anarcho-Commissar posted:Do we know when? Nope. I think the kreig and orks are early next year along with the proper KT starter, so probably not soon.
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Played the Blood Bowl Team Manager Card Game for the first time with friends tonight and had a really good time. It's too bad the Fantasy Flight folks aren't still doing games like this because Team Manager and Space Hulk Death Angel are both really fun and match the themes of their big game counterparts well.
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Ended up just egtting some Novitiate body bits on eBay. Now to figure out how best to build this Kill Team.
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