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Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
First they came for the trade unionists and we high-fived because I had some anecdotes about trade unionists

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runnypoops
Mar 26, 2016

been there. done that. prove yourself to me.
Im POOR and TICKED OFF and i like voting against me interests because FOX NEWS called something SOCIALIST

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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runnypoops posted:

Im POOR and TICKED OFF and i like voting against me interests because FOX NEWS called something SOCIALIST

my company just started an ESOP. I might become an actual socialist soon

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018
It is really funny when journalists or video game designers form a union. The purpose of a union is to take control a critical sector of the economy in the interests of the working class. If the New York Times journalists just go on strike, everything would continue as is, if not get better. The only real critical sector is the increasingly gig-ified carshare and food delivery people who serve the oppressed downwardly mobile degree-havers, and the former don't even legally qualify as employees.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:

It is really funny when journalists or video game designers form a union. The purpose of a union is to take control a critical sector of the economy in the interests of the working class. If the New York Times journalists just go on strike, everything would continue as is, if not get better. The only real critical sector is the increasingly gig-ified carshare and food delivery people who serve the oppressed downwardly mobile degree-havers, and the former don't even legally qualify as employees.

you're an idiot

runnypoops
Mar 26, 2016

been there. done that. prove yourself to me.

ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:

It is really funny when journalists or video game designers form a union. The purpose of a union is to take control a critical sector of the economy in the interests of the working class. If the New York Times journalists just go on strike, everything would continue as is, if not get better. The only real critical sector is the increasingly gig-ified carshare and food delivery people who serve the oppressed downwardly mobile degree-havers, and the former don't even legally qualify as employees.

U dumb retard

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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Bonaventure posted:

well, as long as it's only a few bad apples,

I've literally belonged to both terrible and great unions. They're run by people. did you really expect all of them to be either great/bad?

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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Jimmy Hoffa made some bad decisions, but was good for the Teamsters

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Oct 29, 2012

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Mumpy Puffinz posted:

Jimmy Hoffa made some bad decisions, but was good for the Teamsters

Teamsters was the really good one that I belonged to. The premium for Kaiser Permanente insurance in NorCal was like 20 bucks a month.

ChunTheUnavoidable
Sep 27, 2021

Organized crime is pretty conservative for the most part

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
There's no mafia to pay dues to any more, not in that way, who cares about that in TYOOL 2021? Tony the Enforcer is retired and eating spaghetti in a retirement home.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:

Organized crime is pretty conservative for the most part

they do use the "N" word alot

nvidiagouge
Sep 30, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

Who What Now posted:

There's no mafia to pay dues to any more, not in that way, who cares about that in TYOOL 2021? Tony the Enforcer is retired and eating spaghetti in a retirement home.

The East Coast unions are still totally riddled with organized crime. There's a pretty good book called The Five Families you should read, it explains how the mob has expanded and contracted with the times but they're still all over things like construction, garbage collecting, ports, etc. using organized labor as a front.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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nvidiagouge posted:

The East Coast unions are still totally riddled with organized crime. There's a pretty good book called The Five Families you should read, it explains how the mob has expanded and contracted with the times but they're still all over things like construction, garbage collecting, ports, etc. using organized labor as a front.

thanks for the update if it was 1990. means a lot to us. real good information in there

nvidiagouge
Sep 30, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

thanks for the update if it was 1990. means a lot to us. real good information in there

It's still alive and well.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ocgs/infiltrated-labor-unions

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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no poo poo. Goodfellas told us that the Unions and Mob were working together in 1990.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!


What part of this link proves that the mob runs labor unions?

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
I do like that the united states has a solid infiltrated-labor-unions url going on

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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kazil posted:

What part of this link proves that the mob runs labor unions?

the mob doesn't run it. They just wisely invest the capital for the pensions. They've done a loving fantastic job of it too

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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Icochet posted:

I do like that the united states has a solid infiltrated-labor-unions url going on

ChunTheUnavoidable
Sep 27, 2021

it must be really weird being a mafia guy in 2021

runnypoops
Mar 26, 2016

been there. done that. prove yourself to me.
Pretty sure the mob just eats deli meats out the fridge in their bathrobes

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018
going on strike from my job making posts at some neo-gawker startup until the forces of capital break and come to the bargaining table

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:

it must be really weird being a mafia guy in 2021

it really is. They were talking about it on NPR earlier this week

nvidiagouge
Sep 30, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

kazil posted:

What part of this link proves that the mob runs labor unions?

Here is a big bust as recent as 2017.

https://www.nj.com/news/2017/05/authorities_19_charged_in_new_york_mob_takedown.html

They were using the unions as their base to commit a whole bunch of crimes. It's pretty crazy that almost 100 years later it's still the same families and the same unions.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
EH OH AHM DOOIN CORRUPTION OVUH HEAH

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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nvidiagouge posted:

Here is a big bust as recent as 2017.

https://www.nj.com/news/2017/05/authorities_19_charged_in_new_york_mob_takedown.html

They were using the unions as their base to commit a whole bunch of crimes. It's pretty crazy that almost 100 years later it's still the same families and the same unions.

4 years ago they ran one labor union. Where does this mob influence end?

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo
mobs can have little a union, as a treat

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
It's pretty stark how the conservative opinion posters in the conservative opinion thread are reasonable with putting forward their opinions and arguments while the same certain hard left group keeps responding with with low effort petty attacks, sarcasm and deliberate obtuseness.

Huskalator
Mar 17, 2009

Proud fascist
anti-anti-fascist
Wtf is up with everyone wearing gd Sketchers with a suit? Looks like garbage. Wear some classy shoes.

Huskalator
Mar 17, 2009

Proud fascist
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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:

it must be really weird being a mafia guy in 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFQYw_MmAA

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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Methanar posted:

It's pretty stark how the conservative opinion posters in the conservative opinion thread are reasonable with putting forward their opinions and arguments while the same certain hard left group keeps responding with with low effort petty attacks, sarcasm and deliberate obtuseness.

this is why conservative humor is a bust. you assholes can't take a joke

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

nvidiagouge posted:

Here is a big bust as recent as 2017.

https://www.nj.com/news/2017/05/authorities_19_charged_in_new_york_mob_takedown.html

They were using the unions as their base to commit a whole bunch of crimes. It's pretty crazy that almost 100 years later it's still the same families and the same unions.

That article doesn't mention a union at all. Do you have more information about it?

Also, Paulie Roast Beef lol

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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kazil posted:

That article doesn't mention a union at all. Do you have more information about it?

Also, Paulie Roast Beef lol

he has a condition, OK?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Huskalator posted:

Wtf is up with everyone wearing gd Sketchers with a suit? Looks like garbage. Wear some classy shoes.

imagine still thinking suits are classy

loving boomer

Huskalator
Mar 17, 2009

Proud fascist
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Regarde Aduck posted:

imagine still thinking suits are classy

loving boomer

Get off my lawn.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

toiletbrush posted:

this is somehow an even more cowardly position to take than just being a centrist

yes, show me more

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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I am a well regulated militia and should be able to buy a cannon!

nvidiagouge
Sep 30, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

kazil posted:

That article doesn't mention a union at all. Do you have more information about it?

Also, Paulie Roast Beef lol

The fraud and racketeering charges are based around bullying other companies/unions out of the bidding market for construction jobs using their compromised union and outright threats, then defrauding the government in a hospital expansion and other building projects.

https://www.nj.com/news/2017/05/authorities_19_charged_in_new_york_mob_takedown.html

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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
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nvidiagouge posted:

The fraud and racketeering charges are based around bullying other companies/unions out of the bidding market for construction jobs using their compromised union and outright threats, then defrauding the government in a hospital expansion and other building projects.

https://www.nj.com/news/2017/05/authorities_19_charged_in_new_york_mob_takedown.html

What about the chicken man? The blew up his house

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