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Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
So you have Russian seperatists who want Ukraine to be Russia, who are the ones supporting the Donbas seperatists in Donetsk and Luhansk, and the Ukrainians who want Ukraine to a) Ukraine and b) closer to Europe. It’s not black and white because the Russians are pro-putin and the Ukrainians are fighting alongside people like Azov, so there are no ‘good guys’ as such. It’s extremely complicated and doesn’t fit into the left v right dichotomy that works in the west.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
I wasn't really bothered about what Russia was doing until they decided it was their job to put a stop to the LGBT+ agenda and now you have to wonder which of the British hate groups they fund

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

fuctifino posted:

e: Sunday Mail has this taking up a good chunk of the front page



He's visiting Pence and has seen a nice little filly.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Regarde Aduck posted:

I wasn't really bothered about what Russia was doing until they decided it was their job to put a stop to the LGBT+ agenda and now you have to wonder which of the British hate groups they fund

Who cares when it's Southern Baptists funding the other 800 of them?

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Regarde Aduck posted:

I wasn't really bothered about what Russia was doing until they decided it was their job to put a stop to the LGBT+ agenda and now you have to wonder which of the British hate groups they fund

What. All of them, obviously

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Ugh not going to share it but Julie Bindell had posted a truly insane screed on Twitter saying that anyone calling themselves queer who isn't gay or lesbian should be expelled from the country. Naturally the other terves are loving loving it.

I'm a straight man but it truly terrifies me that these people seem to be happily laying the groundwork for fascism.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


a pipe smoking dog posted:

Ugh not going to share it but Julie Bindell had posted a truly insane screed on Twitter saying that anyone calling themselves queer who isn't gay or lesbian should be expelled from the country. Naturally the other terves are loving loving it.

I'm a straight man but it truly terrifies me that these people seem to be happily laying the groundwork for fascism.

I thought bisexuals fell under the queer category as well? Mind you I could be using an outdated meaning of the word.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

bessantj posted:

I thought bisexuals fell under the queer category as well? Mind you I could be using an outdated meaning of the word.

Bisexuals are next once the trans are dealt with.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

keep punching joe posted:

Bisexuals are next once the trans are dealt with.

If anything bisexual hatred is an older (although nowhere near as widespread) strain among reactionary gay and lesbian people.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Yes, the whole point of 'queer' is that it's an all encompassing term for a wide variety of sexual and gender identities. Though it doesn't really surprise me that they're suddenly going out to bat for a term can can still be controversial in the community for its historical use as a slur. I assume that reinstating it as one is the next port of call.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


keep punching joe posted:

Bisexuals are next once the trans are dealt with.

Must be exhausting to be such a gatekeeper.

Sakurazuka posted:

Yes, the whole point of 'queer' is that it's an all encompassing term for a wide variety of sexual and gender identities.

That makes sense.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Ugh not going to share it but Julie Bindell had posted a truly insane screed on Twitter saying that anyone calling themselves queer who isn't gay or lesbian should be expelled from the country. Naturally the other terves are loving loving it.

I'm a straight man but it truly terrifies me that these people seem to be happily laying the groundwork for fascism.

Radfems are the worst example of "correct diagnosis but wrong solutions" imaginable

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Ugh not going to share it but Julie Bindell had posted a truly insane screed on Twitter saying that anyone calling themselves queer who isn't gay or lesbian should be expelled from the country. Naturally the other terves are loving loving it.

I'm a straight man but it truly terrifies me that these people seem to be happily laying the groundwork for fascism.

The sole reason some people aren't conservatives is immediate self preservation. (which in all fairness is a pretty good reason)

Once they're no longer part of the immediate hate group then their true colours fly: This time, I'll be the one stamping a boot on a human face.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Bug Squash posted:

The sole reason some people aren't conservatives is immediate self preservation. (which in all fairness is a pretty good reason)

Once they're no longer part of the immediate hate group then their true colours fly: This time, I'll be the one stamping a boot on a human face.

Yours think they'd have enough sense to realise that once trans and bi people are "dealt with" they'd be next.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Andrew Marr just had Brian Cox (the good one) on the couch with Kieth - I was really hoping he'd call him a oval office or something but instead he kept repeating that he was a socialist and had abandoned Labour for the SNP which is still funny I guess

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Yours think they'd have enough sense to realise that once trans and bi people are "dealt with" they'd be next.

They are probably correct that they, personally, individually, would be dead before that happens.

There's also the tory approach where you're allowed to be whatever you want if you're rich enough and do it behind closed doors, and everyone else gets persecuted for it.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Failed Imagineer posted:

Andrew Marr just had Brian Cox (the good one) on the couch with Kieth - I was really hoping he'd call him a oval office or something but instead he kept repeating that he was a socialist and had abandoned Labour for the SNP which is still funny I guess

We could really use a socialist version of Logan Roy

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Jakabite posted:

We could really use a socialist version of Logan Roy

I hope there are people who unironically look up to him the way they do with Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Fight Club, Death Note etc who are tearing their hair out at the idea of Cox being a socialist.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I thought brian cox was a big melt?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

OwlFancier posted:

I thought brian cox was a big melt?

that's the bad Brian cox

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I didn't know there was more than one.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

OwlFancier posted:

I didn't know there was more than one.

You should watch Manhunter.

Or also Succession, which is an entertaining show about how all rich people are thick selfish cunts.


Oh wait you like don't watch any TV or movies or something, right?

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Had to google which oval office of a Cox you we're talking about....... please be more specific.

edit: it was actor Cox.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean to be clear I don't know what a brian cox is other than "someone who has bad political opinions on twitter or something"

Or uh, wasn't there one that was in metallica? And has a phd?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

OwlFancier posted:


Or uh, wasn't there one that was in metallica? And has a phd?

What lol


....ah you're thinking of Brian May from Queen I guess?

:psyduck:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Failed Imagineer posted:

What lol


....ah you're thinking of Brian May from Queen I guess?

:psyduck:

Quite possibly? I am not good at names.

I think there is also a brian cox that plays videogames on the internet sometimes but I don't know if that is 1. his name or 2. if that is related to any of the other brian cox's or other brians that might exist.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



There's also Dr Cox in Scrubs.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
And Mike Oxlong from Sepultura

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
There’s Brian Cox, cool Scottish socialist actor and there’s Brian Cox, oval office stargazer and former member of Kraftwerk

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The second one also has a PhD which is why I confused him with the brian from queen.

And I assume he is also the one who plays internet videogames sometimes.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

The oval office one played keyboards in Tony Blair's band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi5j7jjhm4M

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
brian may interferes w/ garden machinery imo

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
He got his arse cheeks bit by a badger.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Of all the things famous musicians interfere with that seems relatively benign tbh.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


stev posted:

There's also Dr Cox in Scrubs.

Yeah but his name is Percival, not Brian

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

I didn't know there was more than one.

Clue's in the name, it's not Brian Cock is it?

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Clue's in the name, it's not Brian Cock is it?

This got an actual out loud chuckle from me

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
British columnists are a truly unique class of brain

https://twitter.com/rcolvile/status/1457271787943829504?s=21

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Clue's in the name, it's not Brian Cock is it?

It's the "No Brian Cox Club" we're allowed to have one.

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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
there was an older lady on jeremy vine a week or something ago and she said this whole climate nonsense is exactly the same as the nuclear hysteria she remembers from decades of yore

they're the same thing, you see

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