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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

FoolyCharged posted:

Hey, it was at the very least better than the one were climate change was an eco terrorist hoax

and the one where the inscrutable Japanese are plotting an economic overthrow and covering it up with murder and stuff

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

X JAKK posted:

That reminds me of this I think SNES game that was like river city ransom with better proportioned characters and you could rip ladies purses away and beat them to death with with it.

There was actually a River City/Kunio-Kun game on the SNES, though it didn't get a Western release. (the one where the protagonists of River City Girls were first playable, and the game makes a fourth wall breaking joke about it)

That franchise is really funny because it had a ton of different NES games that were all localised by different companies who had no idea the games where connected, so under a bunch of different names like River City Ransom and Crash 'n' The Boys Dodgeball and so on.

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

!Klams posted:

One of the best gaming experiences of my life was getting good at Capcom vs SNK 2 with a friend of mine Lee, over a weekend. There was a party on Saturday, we both got there (mutual friends' house) early Friday, and were just kicking it playing CvS2 most of the day, learning the ropes, completing arcade mode, etc. Mutual friend was happy watching. By the end of the day we'd kind of found our preferred characters and playstyles. Then Saturday, the party, was awesome, and at around 5am it dried up, but because me and Lee both fell asleep in the front room, we got woken up pretty early with people leaving, and were too monged out to really get up and do anything, so we just fired up the console again, and just did random characters against each other.

It got to 100-100 wins each, and we decided the next was the decider. I got Sagat, who was one of my obviously top 3, and he got Geese, who he'd been kicking my rear end with all day, and then we both had two jobbers who we weren't great with. The game came down to fresh Geese vs fresh Sagat, and I can't remember the specifics now, but it was right down to the wire, and Lee tried a bad bait, but in the split second he made it he was going 'awww' before he'd even thrown the move. Because we both knew I'd seen it coming, that my counter attack had priority, and we both knew I'd land it and combo to victory, and it was just such a, like, full flow moment where we both knew what the other was thinking, both knew what was playing out before it played out.

Today, I'd honestly be hard pressed to throw a tiger knee.

To throw a tiger knee these days means I can't walk and gotta rub this in for a week.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









i used to be a tiger like you then i got an adventurer in the knee

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad

Vic posted:

To throw a tiger knee these days means I can't walk and gotta rub this in for a week.



Oh God, that stuff, the SMELL, jeez. My friend used to do Muay Thai and had to use it like shower gel, lol.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

More video games should let you (viably) just use a knife

Not dual wielding

Just a single loving knife, for stabbing and cutting people quickly

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

jokes posted:

More video games should let you (viably) just use a knife

Not dual wielding

Just a single loving knife, for stabbing and cutting people quickly

Yeah k style is overrated. The knife has less weight and it's funny when you manage to knock someone down with a lunge after they chased you around a corner.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
I couldn't understand the point of Ghost of Tsushima with it's middling sword play. No decapitations, no amputations, I played it for maybe 6 hours and didn't see any one hit kills. Why does everyone gently caress up swords? Swords don't drain your health, they kill or maim you. Just copy bushido blade. The mechanics were perfect.

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

Bushido blade was so goddamn good

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

VR rules and is the future of games. Nobody can afford it yet though.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

SilvergunSuperman posted:

Bushido blade was so goddamn good

Anyone who disagrees with this is a Lamer.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

kntfkr posted:

I couldn't understand the point of Ghost of Tsushima with it's middling sword play. No decapitations, no amputations, I played it for maybe 6 hours and didn't see any one hit kills. Why does everyone gently caress up swords? Swords don't drain your health, they kill or maim you. Just copy bushido blade. The mechanics were perfect.

Decapitations and arm chopping get unlocked as abilities as part of the story (though imo they should just be a thing you can do instead of some kind of special super attack, no argument there), and Lethal mode sounds like it’d play like you expect it to. It’s still kind of video gamey, but rather than being a bog standard “super hard” mode, it makes you and your enemies about as resilient as tissue paper. Definitely the best way to play the game.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

SilvergunSuperman posted:

Bushido blade was so goddamn good

it was the last good fighting game

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

Relevant Tangent posted:

VR rules and is the future of games. Nobody can afford it yet though.

I had that opinion in 2016 but it turns out actually physically moving to play video games is exhausting.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

I had that opinion in 2016 but it turns out actually physically moving to play video games is exhausting.

Sounds like a feature to me.

Nice Van My Man
Jan 1, 2008

FoolyCharged posted:

I will never understand this belief. Their stories are nothing special and weren't even any more detailed than other games in their heyday.

And the gameplay is fun if simple.

In their heyday from when I (an old man) played them, around the SNES era, they were basically the only games with stories and it was sort of novel at the time. I was shocked to learn that there were people who had been playing them for the gameplay. Besides the gameplay being simple, there's tons of story padding you'd have to put up with between gameplay sequences.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




There was plenty of story on the pc space.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

itry posted:

Sounds like a feature to me.

100%

big trivia FAIL
May 9, 2003

"Jorge wants to be hardcore,
but his mom won't let him"

days gone is the only game I've ever platinumed because it's basically impossible to beat it and not platinum it

Barudak
May 7, 2007

itry posted:

There was plenty of story on the pc space.

Yeah, shame they left those rooms bare on PC

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
VR, like waggle controls before it, misunderstands the fundamental purpose of videogame controls. To put the minimum amount of barriers between a nerve firing in your brain and the game reacting to said nerve. Every extra amount of brain activity needed to coordinate physical movements or the actual real world time it take to perform a real world movement is a failure on the part of the game. The reason controllers are still the default method of control and will remain the default method of control is because they reduce the barrier from brain to game to a few millimeters of thumb movement. Until a method of control is invented that involves even less barriers, controllers are here to stay and motion/vr will remain a novelty.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




I feel like I read this post somewhere before and it's as wrong now as it was then. By that logic playing a racing game with a wheel and pedals is worse than just using WASD.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
The VR experience is very good, and VR controllers are very good, the issue is that you're effectively a mobile turret in VR and that massively limits the types of games you can play in VR.

I can imagine in maybe one or two more generations people will be considering buying a good VR headset over a nice monitor and just using it fulltime.

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
Ain't no loving way i'm wearing a hat to play games

Tetrabor
Oct 14, 2018

Eight points of contact at all times!
Neuro-tech will be the breaking point for VR becoming viable.

...and probably the downfall of society.

But seriously, VR is different than just competitive gaming that requires precision movement with your hands. Both are viable for their own genres.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

The pinnacle of video game controls is the Switch’s ability to let you play with your arms relaxing on either side like a lazy piece of poo poo.

I never want to move my neck or arms when playing a video game.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Icochet posted:

Ain't no loving way i'm wearing a hat to play games

I wouldn't expect a goon to understand baseball or any other sport really

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆
I borrowed a VR headset from my uni library for a weekend and tooled around in some of the free VR games on steam but it didn't really grab me.
Maybe 'room-scale' VR is more engaging but like most people I'm not about to dedicate an entire room to this gizmo and its trackers, and seated VR stuff isn't that hot.
Then again I've never really been the kind of person to be really interested in "immersion" in games

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
I don't think I could ever be down for VR. I don't want to play a game that takes all my senses. I do a lot of phone reading and podcast listening when I play games. Also imagine how many nut taps will happen between boys aged 18-24 while they have a VR headset on.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Vic posted:

To throw a tiger knee these days means I can't walk and gotta rub this in for a week.



I don’t recall telling you to put the balm on! :argh:

https://youtu.be/byCj2kfIpXI

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
VR will primarily be used, like most things, for porn

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Collapsing Farts posted:

VR will primarily be used, like most things, for porn

Beat Saber was a real disappointment, let me tell you

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

galagazombie posted:

VR, like waggle controls before it, misunderstands the fundamental purpose of videogame controls. To put the minimum amount of barriers between a nerve firing in your brain and the game reacting to said nerve. Every extra amount of brain activity needed to coordinate physical movements or the actual real world time it take to perform a real world movement is a failure on the part of the game. The reason controllers are still the default method of control and will remain the default method of control is because they reduce the barrier from brain to game to a few millimeters of thumb movement. Until a method of control is invented that involves even less barriers, controllers are here to stay and motion/vr will remain a novelty.

:goonsay:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

jokes posted:

The pinnacle of video game controls is the Switch’s ability to let you play with your arms relaxing on either side like a lazy piece of poo poo.

I never want to move my neck or arms when playing a video game.

There was an old picture that demonstrated why the Wiimote+Nunchuck was the best, and the joycons only improve on it.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
The oculus quest 2 proved you can do perfect VR without cameras and it's such an insane leap forward

This is also partly why I think it will get a lot more use outside of gaming, because a quest 2 headset and controllers is super small and portable in comparison to a giant monitor.

They are working on tech to bring your peripherals info VR too so I can totally see writing code or text documents or whatever, things you would never expect to do in VR, in VR in the near future. You can do it now, but I would say the quest headset is about 20% too bulky and about 50% too uncomfortable to do this for any normal period of time.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

RenegadeStyle1 posted:

I don't think I could ever be down for VR. I don't want to play a game that takes all my senses. I do a lot of phone reading and podcast listening when I play games. Also imagine how many nut taps will happen between boys aged 18-24 while they have a VR headset on.

This is one of those things already partially solved. The latest Quest update tracks intrusions into your playspace, preventing nutshots and cat-related mishaps and if you're playing PCVR you can pin random windows to your hand or playspace that persist even while playing games, eg. having a Netflix window playing Seinfeld while space trucking in Elite Dangerous is a thing people are already doing. Outright bringing your phone into VR is possible too, I did it back in 2017, but it requires fiddling with Android debug bullshit and interaction was clunky. You can also tap the headset twice to enable passthrough. VR really isn't as isolating as you might think, more work needs to be done though.


To do this I used a phone mirroring app and brought the window into VR, pinning it to the palm of my left hand. Interactions worked too, though since it was going through a few layers (VR>cursor emulation>touch emulation) it felt a bit jank. More a proof of concept than something fully usable but it shows it can work.

SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Nov 8, 2021

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

I’m amazed to have found a car racing game that I actually enjoy as I usually find myself bored to tears within a day or two. I picked up Wreckfest for peanuts on Steam and it is actually good because the whole point is to smash the poo poo out of everyone else and play dirty.

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

It's a lot of fun but the championship mode still pales compared to the original destruction derby.

That poo poo is hard as gently caress and incredibly satisfying, this is way too easy.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

SilvergunSuperman posted:

It's a lot of fun but the championship mode still pales compared to the original destruction derby.

That poo poo is hard as gently caress and incredibly satisfying, this is way too easy.

Multiplayer is what has me hooked. Max destruciton

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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









far cry 6 is v solid so far, easily my favourite of the last lot, walks a good line of telling a sort of serious story about liberating not-cuba and being super dumb. my crocodile has the most darling jacket.

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