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My Terunofuji tegata arrived: It doesn't show incredibly well in the picture but the ink is a bit of an orange red. Shiroc fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Nov 5, 2021 |
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Shiroc posted:My Terunofuji tegata arrived: hell yeah, that rules
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Nov 5, 2021 03:26
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If anyone else wants one, there is a flood of them right now. I presume he made A LOT on the yokozuna promotion. I kinda appreciate how the calligraphy for his name is a lot more scribbly than older ones I've seen. Dude just needed to work down the stacks.
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Nov 5, 2021 07:30
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I really appreciate these, and I really want a few but they're JUUUST out of my impulse buy price range. I think I'll invest in some once I've thought of a good place to hang them. I have a handful of "replica" printed tegata which are essentially just lying on a shelf because I can't find a good spot. Would be a super shame for that to happen to an expensive authentic handprint. But at the same time I'm a little worried that everyone who I'd want a tegata from is either faltering or at the end of their career making me worry about future availability and prices. Economics game, man 
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Nov 5, 2021 13:05
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I got gifted Terunofuji and Takakeisho tegatas for my birthday, they're super cool in person but they'll be even better once I get around to framing them. Loved that post too Shiroc, now I know what the stamps mean, neat!
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Nov 5, 2021 17:22
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Martytoof posted:I really appreciate these, and I really want a few but they're JUUUST out of my impulse buy price range. I think I'll invest in some once I've thought of a good place to hang them. I have a handful of "replica" printed tegata which are essentially just lying on a shelf because I can't find a good spot. Would be a super shame for that to happen to an expensive authentic handprint. Yeah the rule about not being allowed to make any more after you retire adds a degree of complexity and potential cost. There seems to have been a flood of similar batch looking Hakuho ones, which makes me wonder how much of his last couple weeks was spent making them for everybody who could possibly want one. MyChemicalImbalance posted:I got gifted Terunofuji and Takakeisho tegatas for my birthday, they're super cool in person but they'll be even better once I get around to framing them. Those are nice ones. I love how the fingertips on Takakeisho's are just a little bit inkier than everything else.
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Nov 5, 2021 18:31
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People who know more about it than me: what are the chances we're looking at a period without a Yokozuna in the near future? I understand there have only been two times in the past hundred years that this has happened. I also understand that there doesn't need to be a Yokozuna; you can have a basho without one, but you need ōzeki, sekiwake and komusubi at the top of the card. How long can Terunofuji's knees last? How much better do Shōdai and Takakeishō have to be doing before they can be considered for promotion? Correct me if I've got the details wrong, I'm mostly piecing this together from wikipedia pages.
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Nov 8, 2021 09:56
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Memento posted:How much better do Shōdai and Takakeishō have to be doing before they can be considered for promotion? They have to win back to back bashos or have something the YDC considers comparable. Winning a basho and then losing to Terunofuji in a playoff would probably do it, for example.
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Nov 8, 2021 10:42
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Memento posted:People who know more about it than me: what are the chances we're looking at a period without a Yokozuna in the near future? I understand there have only been two times in the past hundred years that this has happened. I also understand that there doesn't need to be a Yokozuna; you can have a basho without one, but you need ōzeki, sekiwake and komusubi at the top of the card. Honestly, if Teru had hosed up his rope run, we would BE in a period without a Yokozuna for an unknown amount of time, so if his knees turn to dust again...God knows I love Takakeisho but he's inconsistent and very one-note, and Shodai is good, but like, not dominant good? They'd need two outstanding tournaments in a row tho and they haven't been able to even approach that.
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Nov 8, 2021 10:58
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i can't see a yokozuna among the current crop as they're currently fighting, so i'd consider a period without a yokozuna within the next couple of years to be about even money odds. teru's knees are taped as much as ligaments can be, but with his rank safe i can see him limping on for another couple of years. more than enough time for future yokozuna abi to win 6 basho in a row before the ydc finally admits he might have what it takes.
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Nov 8, 2021 11:01
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Can't see the current Ozeki mounting the summit anytime soon. Unless they put on some amazing displays within the next year at any rate. I was holding out hope that Asanoyama would make the jump from an also ran and stat putting together the results for a Yokozuna bid, apart from injury he has always won double figure bouts during a basho, but that won't be happening anytime soon. We could be looking at a Yokozuna-less basho sometime in the next few years, but it won't be so bad, by then you could have some exiting up and coming wrestlers.
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Nov 8, 2021 11:55
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I think Takakeisho could do it if he got and stayed healthy and if he got some lucky kyujo among the opposition. I don't see that happening though.
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Nov 8, 2021 12:08
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Yeah a healthy takakeisho would be my current bet too.
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Nov 8, 2021 12:30
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I think there's an EXCEEDINGLY high chance we go into a period where we have no active Yokozuna. I love Teru, I hope he has a long long career ahead of him, but knee problems are terrifying and can escalate .. well, deteriorate .. rapidly. Clearly he's been living with his for a while so that's the only thing giving me some small comfort, but I hope he actually does a Hakuho and considers his personal health and safety when a doctor inevitably tells him "yeah we're gonna have to replace it with a rusty barn door hinge" and calls it quits. Balanced with me being in total agreement that NONE of the current crop of Ozeki look like they have what it takes, I'd say how long we live with no Yokozuna is entirely reliant on how quickly his knees pop. I wouldn't be surprised if it were like 2+ years (without, assuming he pops quickly) A healthy Takakeisho would also be my "likeliest" pick, but I don't see him staying healthy for long periods. I sincerely and desperately hope he proved me wrong. Barring that I'd say it's someone just making their way up now but who hasn't shown that spark of excellence yet or someone who hasn't figured out how to stay consistent yet. Like Wakatakakge, Endo. I'm kind of hyped on Abi right now but I forgot he was kind of middling. Maybe Asanoyama when he comes back in 400 years. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 13:32
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yeah takakeisho is kinda mitakeumi+ to me in results tho not in technique and I can't see either doing it as long as terunofuji's around. best bet is one of the younger joi-jin really take a leap forwards while teurunofuji has to miss a basho or two but not enough to force intai. if it does end up being asanoyama or abi that would be really interesting as we'd have to conclude that some sort of forced break that causes a rikishi to reassess hsi sumo as they drop down the banzuke is beneficial long term Thauros fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 14:12
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I might be missing something but how is Abi in the discussion? He’s certainly a good sumotori but his peak so far is Komisubi and I don’t know if I’ve ever seen him truly dominant for an extended period of time (although I may just not t have been paying close attention). Is it just because he’s been tearing up the lower divisions on his comeback tour?
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Nov 8, 2021 15:33
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I think definitely rose coloured glasses seeing someone wreck the competition for 4+ basho but forgetting that he's essentially been playing on "easy mode". I had the same thoughts about Ura -- I remembered him being good but watching him wreck until he got to Juryo really skewed my memory. Abi was good but I don't think he was ever really AMAZING since he debuted in makuuchi. Or maybe now I'm remembering wrong, who knows.
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Nov 8, 2021 16:02
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People just wanna see that shiko in the yokozuna dohyo-iri.
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Nov 8, 2021 16:27
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Look at this guy. In his first basho he went 2-5, then went up 4 places. His second he went 3-4 and went up 6 places his, third he went 3-2-2 and went up 2 places to sit currently at Jk2w heading into the November basho. Division 6 is wild!
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Nov 8, 2021 16:27
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Martytoof posted:I think definitely rose coloured glasses seeing someone wreck the competition for 4+ basho but forgetting that he's essentially been playing on "easy mode". I had the same thoughts about Ura -- I remembered him being good but watching him wreck until he got to Juryo really skewed my memory. Abi was good but I don't think he was ever really AMAZING since he debuted in makuuchi. Or maybe now I'm remembering wrong, who knows. Abi was just as one-dimensional as Takakeisho and was nowhere near as good as the latter when it came to tsuppari, mainly because of his lovely footwork and lack of a good left hand. Unless he's vastly improved in his belt skills, I don't think much of his ozeki chances, let alone yokozuna. anakha fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 16:36
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Thauros posted:yeah takakeisho is kinda mitakeumi+ to me in results tho not in technique and I can't see either doing it as long as terunofuji's around. Takakeisho’s health is obviously a question mark, but what’s the argument against his technique? As good as Teru is, he’s not an all conquering monster like Hak. Takakeisho has already put up a 12J/13Y run in the midst of Teru’s rise and has a 4-4 record including playoffs head to head and the last 4 times he’s been healthy he’s had a yusho, playoff loss, straight jun-yusho and a third place where if he had won his day 15 matchup it would have forced a 3 way playoff. If he can somehow stay healthy for a whole year I’d think he’s more likely than not to string together a credible run. I think there’s an unfortunate but not impossible future where he pulls out a yusho, then starts like 12-1 the following tourney, has another mid tourney injury and goes full Kisenosato to pull out the win but loving himself up permanently since he doesn’t know if he’ll manage another shot.
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Nov 8, 2021 17:05
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pseudodragon posted:Takakeisho’s health is obviously a question mark, but what’s the argument against his technique? As good as Teru is, he’s not an all conquering monster like Hak. Takakeisho has already put up a 12J/13Y run in the midst of Teru’s rise and has a 4-4 record including playoffs head to head and the last 4 times he’s been healthy he’s had a yusho, playoff loss, straight jun-yusho and a third place where if he had won his day 15 matchup it would have forced a 3 way playoff. If he can somehow stay healthy for a whole year I’d think he’s more likely than not to string together a credible run. what i meant is that they're both kinda maddingly inconsistent with runs of brilliance even tho their fighting styles are different and takakeisho's clearly a level above. it's a fair point that more of his issues can be traced to injury but there were also those couple basho after he put on weight where he had clear endurance issues.
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Nov 8, 2021 17:18
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Alright, it's time for the first post-Hakuho fantasy!code:Y/O: rikishi1 rikishi2 rikishi3 S/K: rikishi1 rikishi2 rikishi3 M1-5: rikishi1 rikishi2 rikishi3 M6-10: rikishi1 rikishi2 rikishi3 M11+: rikishi1 rikishi2 rikishi3 If you've never played Fantasy before, check out the rules. In brief: just choose 3 guys at each rank, and you'll be drafted a team of dudes. That's all you really need to do, although you can trade during the first week if you want (most people don't). It's really fun and helps you get more familiar with lower-ranked guys. Get your draft picks in by Saturday night Pacific time so I can do the draft for Sunday!
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Nov 8, 2021 17:26
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Also, new goonzuke just dropped.code:Kenning fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 17:26
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Kenning posted:Alright, it's time for the first post-Hakuho fantasy! Here goes nothing Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Mitakeumi Meisei Ichinojo M1-5: Hoshoryu Endo Wakatakakage M6-10: Ura Tobizaru Chiyoshoma M11+: Hokutofuji Abi Tochinoshin Kenning posted:Also, new goonzuke just dropped. Amazed at the work you put into this stuff.
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Nov 8, 2021 17:38
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Wow, I leapfrogged right over Komusubi and straight into Sekiwake. Is that even allowed?
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Nov 8, 2021 18:04
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Since I'm very very bad at picking winners, I left it to random.org/lists to pick my team. No cheating, there were my first die-rolls, except I omitted Asanoyama where he came up. Judging from this list I'll still suck, but at least I can rest easy knowing I didn't doom myself. It was a random Internet script :| Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Meisei Ichinojo Kiribayama M1-5: Okinoumi Endo Onosho M6-10: Ura Tobizaru Tamawashi M11+: Yutakayama Akua Chiyomaru
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Nov 8, 2021 18:10
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Y/O: Terunofuji Shodai Takakeisho S/K: Ichinojo Meisei Mitakeumi M1-5: Hoshoryu Takanosho Takarafuji M6-10: Ura Tobizaru Tamawashi M11+: Abi Hokutofuji Shohozan As is my custom, I waffled for a while over Tochinoshin before picking him anyways. The M11+ bracket is a tempting one this go round. Kaisei fighting to stay in makuuchi, Abi on his way back up from demotion, old man Shohozan back in the maegashira ranks... and Tochinoshin, with an iron grip and a glass knee. But he's gone 7-8 the last few times and alllllmost made his KK and I can't just jump ship while he's still managing that. Khizan fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 18:16
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Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Ichinojo Mitakeumi Meisei M1-5: Wakatakakage Hoshoryu Takarafuji M6-10: Tobizaru Ura Chiyotairyu M11+: Hokutofuji Kaisei Shohozan Props to Shohozan for making it back up.
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Y/O: Terunofuji Shodai Takakeisho S/K: Ichinojo Kiribayama Mitakeumi M1-5: Okinoumi Onosho Wakatakakage M6-10: Asanoyama Ura Tamawashi M11+: Tochinoshin Hokutofuji Abi
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Y/O: Terunofuji Shodai Takakeisho S/K: Ichinojo Kiribayama Meisei M1-5: Wakatakakage Daieisho Hoshoryu M6-10: Simanoumi Koteoko Ura M11+: Tochinoshin Kagayaki Kaisei Gaghskull fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Nov 10, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 18:26
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Fantasy time?  Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Mitakeumi Ichinojo Kiribayama M1-5: Hoshoryu Endo Takarafuji M6-10: Ura Chiyotairyu Tobizaru M11+: Kotonowaka Hokutofuji Chiyomaru Thanks again Kenning, top work!
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I am back from "injury" and looking to get back into the Makuuchi Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Mitakeumi Meisei Ichinojo M1-5: Daieisho Onosho Okinoumi M6-10: Ura Chiyoshoma Kotoeko M11+: Ishiura Abi Yutakayama
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The dawn of a new age, the age of Hoshoryu. Stoked for sumo to be back! Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Kiribayama Meisei Mitakeumi M1-5: Hoshoryu Wakatakakage Onosho M6-10: Kotoeko Tobizaru Ura M11+: Hokutofuji Teritsuyoshi Ishiura
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Y/O: Terunofuji Shodai Takakeisho S/K: Mitakeumi Kiribayama Meisei M1-5: Wakatakakage Daieisho Onosho M6-10: Ura Tobizaru Aoiyama M11+: Abi Hokotufuji Terutsuyoshi
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Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Mitakeumi Meisei Ichinojo M1-5: Wakatakakage Takayasu Endo M6-10: Chiyotairyu Kotoeko Asanoyama M11+: Tochinoshin Terutsuyoshi Abi
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Y/O: Terunofuji Shodai Takakeisho S/K: Meisei Ichinojo Kiribayama M1-5: Takayasu Onosho Daieisho M6-10: Ura Kotoeko Tobizaru M11+: Ishiura Terutsuyoshi Abi Kenning posted:Also, new goonzuke just dropped. i'm sweating more than a gyoji who got call wrong
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Nov 8, 2021 19:16
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Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Ichinojo Meisei Mitakeumi M1-5: Wakatakakage Endo Takayasu M6-10: Shimanoumi Ura Tobizaru M11+: Abi Chiyomaru Chiyonokuni This time for fantasy sumo I've taken the bold step of actually reminding myself what everyone's records were coming out of Aki; we'll see if this pays off this time 
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All the way up to M14  Y/O: Terunofuji Takakeisho Shodai S/K: Meisei Kiribayama Ichinojo M1-5: Myogiryu Onosho Daieisho M6-10: Kotoeko Chiyoshoma Tobizaru M11+: TOCHINOSHIN Akua Yutakayama
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Y/O: Terunofuji Shodai Takakeisho S/K: Meisei Ichinojo Mitakeumi M1-5: Hoshoryu Takayasu Wakatakakage M6-10: Tobizaru Ura Chiyoshoma M11+: Hokutofuji Kotonowaka Abi
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