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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:I'm just using my experience talking to vacc hesitant people. Younger gens absolutely for sure have that wakefield study poo poo floating around in their moron brains but plenty of people still remember thalidomide even if they only know it as the flipper baby drug Yeah I dunno. My ex's aunty had polio as a kid and uses a wheel chair. She took a loooot of convincing from her nurse sister and neice to get the vaccine. I was fully vaccinated a month before she was.
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Nov 8, 2021 10:24
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Wow, I got sent a link to the (now defunct) "The Young IPA Podcast". They look just like the sort of insufferable shits you'd expect, three guesses for who the father of James Bolt is... Maybe I'll listen to one when I'm in a bad mood out on an angry run around the track. https://ipa.org.au/ipa-tv/the-young-ipa-podcast
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Nov 8, 2021 10:25
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Nov 8, 2021 10:30
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NPR Journalizard posted:From memory a scientist was asked about something like this, and apparently if you are going to have an adverse reaction to a vaccine, it generally happens in the first few months. They tend not to just lay dormant for years and then decide to cause issues. Pre-vaccine - no reason for a reaction Exposure - you inject/swallow whatever the vaccine is made of and if it's going to cause a reaction it will Reaction - your body gradually breaks down the contents of the vaccine and at the same time your immune system hopefully develops an antibody response to the antigen. If the antibodies are going to cause a problem this is when it is likely to start happening. Meanwhile you're running out of chances to react to the raw vaccine contents Immunity - The antibodies have probably started doing anything they're going to do to you, and the contents of the vaccine have hopefully been eliminated from your system It's reasonable based on past history and thinking through the mechanism to expect the vaccine will have no delayed adverse effects. This is especially true given that hundreds of millions of people have been living post-vaccine for months to a year at this point. There aren't really a lot of ticking time bombs in the human body, more like half lives and weighted chances. It's not "how many minutes until you get a blood clot and have a stroke" it's "what are the chances of it happening randomly on any given day?". The chance is higher for some people than others, but there's no countdown to it happening, and the low risk person might get hit before the high risk person. So if you take something that's "going to happen to every vaccine recipient in five years", you'd think it would have already started happening to some people, in the same way that some small number of unlucky people get type 2 diabetes or have a stroke or a heart attack in their 30s. On the other hand, there are weird interactions between the immune system and pathogens, like Dengue, so if you look at the question from a truly skeptical standpoint (like "can we be 100% sure the sun will rise tomorrow?" skeptical) then it's not proven that the COVID vaccines won't somehow hurt people later. But I would and did bet my life on it.
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Nov 8, 2021 10:58
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Nov 8, 2021 11:01
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SecretOfSteel posted:Wow, I got sent a link to the (now defunct) "The Young IPA Podcast". They look just like the sort of insufferable shits you'd expect, three guesses for who the father of James Bolt is... Maybe I'll listen to one when I'm in a bad mood out on an angry run around the track. Wow how could you defame a podcast that Melbourne demons premiership player tom McDonald has appeared on
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Nov 8, 2021 11:18
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Why bother eating if you just have to do it again tomorrow? This is just depression  maybe antivaxxers just need someone to listen to them? (But guide them on a path back to sanity).
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Nov 8, 2021 11:21
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A deal has been made to buy Sydney Airport for 32 billion. The GOLD STANDARD FINANCIAL MANAGERS of Howard and Costello sold it for 5.6 billion in 2002.
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Nov 8, 2021 11:39
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SecretOfSteel posted:Wow, I got sent a link to the (now defunct) "The Young IPA Podcast". They look just like the sort of insufferable shits you'd expect, three guesses for who the father of James Bolt is... Maybe I'll listen to one when I'm in a bad mood out on an angry run around the track. if I wanted to hear from completely out of touch wannabe hipsters I’d listen to the iwc podcast thanks
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Nov 8, 2021 11:52
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birdstrike posted:if I wanted to hear from completely out of touch wannabe hipsters I’d listen to the iwc podcast thanks which one is that?
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Nov 8, 2021 12:05
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big dong wanter posted:which one is that? All of them.
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birdstrike posted:if I wanted to hear from completely out of touch wannabe hipsters I’d listen to the iwc podcast thanks
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Nov 8, 2021 12:09
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How the gently caress does that podcast have 200 episodes
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Nov 8, 2021 12:25
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Senor Tron posted:A deal has been made to buy Sydney Airport for 32 billion. Tbh that seems a pretty light return for Sydney real estate 
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Nov 8, 2021 13:11
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:boomer and greatest gen brains have been permanently broken by the thalidomide thing All the boomers I talk to (and living in rural NSW they're everywhere) didn't have a problem with vaccines, they had a problem with not getting THE GOOD ONE. So it's more that their brains have been permanently broken from being at the front of the queue for everything. The government (mostly Scotty) made a complete hash of the messaging around A-Z.
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Nov 8, 2021 21:59
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Senor Tron posted:A deal has been made to buy Sydney Airport for 32 billion. The hardest part about being a parent is letting go. I'm proud Sydney Airport has grown so much on its own. Thank you John and Elvis
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Nov 8, 2021 22:04
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Capt.Whorebags posted:All the boomers I talk to (and living in rural NSW they're everywhere) didn't have a problem with vaccines, they had a problem with not getting THE GOOD ONE. Anyone else lol when they realise we have a significantly lower AZ serious complication/death rate, far lower than predicted, largely because Scotty was dragging his feet?
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Nov 8, 2021 22:14
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Capt.Whorebags posted:All the boomers I talk to (and living in rural NSW they're everywhere) didn't have a problem with vaccines, they had a problem with not getting THE GOOD ONE. I have a theory that this actually worked out in our favour because there's a sizeable cohort of boomers who would've naturally fallen into the anti-vax camp and not been vaccinated at all, but who were instead led into the YOU DESERVE THE GOOD ONE camp.
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Nov 8, 2021 23:36
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People at work freaking out about how the storage of a copy of their digital vacc certificate is going to be made secure, loving weirdos. who gives a single gently caress it’s got your name and birthdate on it, they can project mine onto the side of the building for all I care
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Nov 9, 2021 01:25
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freebooter posted:I have a theory that this actually worked out in our favour because there's a sizeable cohort of boomers who would've naturally fallen into the anti-vax camp and not been vaccinated at all, but who were instead led into the YOU DESERVE THE GOOD ONE camp. True. Telling them they can't have something is like catnip. A good proportion would have had no idea what a franking credit was before they heard Labor was planning to change the tax treatment of them.
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Nov 9, 2021 01:32
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Solemn Sloth posted:People at work freaking out about how the storage of a copy of their digital vacc certificate is going to be made secure, loving weirdos. Most boomers are stupid enough that this information is sufficient to crack their bigpond email password Capt.Whorebags posted:True. Telling them they can't have something is like catnip. Boomers had the option for Pfizer and uptake was slow because they didnt think they needed to get it because we didnt have covid here or they wanted to wait it out for stupid reasons.
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Nov 9, 2021 02:18
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Solemn Sloth posted:People at work freaking out about how the storage of a copy of their digital vacc certificate is going to be made secure, loving weirdos. Yeah I've been dealing with this and I don't understand why you'd give a gently caress that your vaccination certificate is on the office computer
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Nov 9, 2021 08:03
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JBP posted:Yeah I've been dealing with this and I don't understand why you'd give a gently caress that your vaccination certificate is on the office computer Boomers have heard of the idea of data security and are extremely paranoid about it despite understanding absolutely nothing about it. Same reason why they're hell to provide tech support for because they blame you personally for all their problems, while being incredibly credulous and gladly handing over all their money to the most transparent scams.
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Nov 9, 2021 08:36
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This government is beyond parody now. We're being gaslit by the fucker and he's completely shameless: https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/rachel-withers/2021/09/2021/1636433248/end-ending-weekend
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Nov 9, 2021 08:53
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Senor Tron posted:A deal has been made to buy Sydney Airport for 32 billion. 23 Billion it looks like? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-08/sydney-airport-agrees-to-investment-fund-buyout-deal/100602082 23 billion? How the gently caress are they even going to get close to making back their money on that esp with Badgery's Creek aka Nancy-Bird Walton Airport opening in 2026?
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Nov 9, 2021 12:58
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Boomers have heard of the idea of data security and are extremely paranoid about it despite understanding absolutely nothing about it. Same reason why they're hell to provide tech support for because they blame you personally for all their problems, while being incredibly credulous and gladly handing over all their money to the most transparent scams. I haven't heard it from a boomer once.
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Nov 9, 2021 13:11
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JBP posted:I haven't heard it from a boomer once. Yeah the ones at my work were all Gen X idiots
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Nov 9, 2021 13:25
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https://twitter.com/AnnastaciaMP/status/1457865151873310720/photo/1 QLD is about to open up once it reaches 80% double dosed or Dec 17. Whichever comes first.
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Nov 9, 2021 18:10
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-10/private-quarantine-scheme-encouraged-home-affairs-department/100607072ABC posted:A company established by an influential Liberal party figure claims it could bring up to 160,000 foreign workers and students a year into Australia via a private hotel quarantine system with support from the Home Affairs Department. Lmao.
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Nov 9, 2021 22:20
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See, you lmao, but that makes me cmao (cry my arse off) 
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Nov 9, 2021 23:57
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Eediot Jedi posted:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-10/private-quarantine-scheme-encouraged-home-affairs-department/100607072 Do these people understand the concept of integrity? Even a little? Do you have no actual shame?
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Nov 10, 2021 00:47
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Capt.Whorebags posted:This government is beyond parody now. We're being gaslit by the fucker and he's completely shameless: https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/rachel-withers/2021/09/2021/1636433248/end-ending-weekend There was a write-up about it in the Guardian but this is much better. "That's a Labor lie." When quoting his own words to him. What the gently caress. Of course all of News Corp went full on "green" right before the government decided to tweak it's messaging and lie about the ancient past of 2-3 years ago. Wonder why that was.
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Nov 10, 2021 00:49
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Konomex posted:Do these people understand the concept of integrity? Even a little? Do you have no actual shame? They're making money while advancing their career. What's there to be ashamed of? Success??
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Nov 10, 2021 00:51
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Animal Friend posted:There was a write-up about it in the Guardian but this is much better. The Monthly/Saturday Paper do great write-ups at the start and end of most weekdays and it's free to subscribe although a lot of the articles it links to are paywalled to some extent. Really good analysis with a progressive bent, but they're just as willing to call out ALP's bullshit when needed.
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Nov 10, 2021 01:10
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I see the same guy behind Paladin is involved too. Must be good odds of a bunch of unchecked cash being awarded.
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Nov 10, 2021 01:33
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Nov 10, 2021 02:12
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You could have found a better source for that and you know it
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Nov 10, 2021 03:26
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Laserface posted:You could have found a better source for that and you know it You find me one better 
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Old news I guess, but amoung all the face planting and belly flopping from the actual PM sometimes we miss.. Ladies and Gentlemen, The Deputy PM:quote:BARNABY JOYCE: In politics, as Joel knows and I know, sometimes it’s not so much how you ride the horse, but how you get off it. Some people get off it with grace and walk to the rail and sit on the rail and people go up and talk to them, but some people just can’t help themselves, they keep a foot in the stirrup and get dragged around in the horse manure. We’re seeing a couple of people with their foot in the stirrup getting dragged around the horse manure. They’ve gone from former prime ministers to current pains in the neck, and what do you do? If I walked around your studio, or your workplace, or your morning tea at school, even the pub, calling everybody a liar, you just look at the person and say, I don’t care what your former job was, mate, you’re a dipstick. You can’t just wander around brandishing those sorts of allegations. You’ve got to have some decorum for the office that you held, for the nation you led and act like it. Couch your terms, even if you have a concern, you know how to say it and couch it in such terms with subtly and deference to not create a massive problem. When you leave politics, you’re supposed to rise above politics, you know. You’re always an idealist as you walk up the hill and you’re more broad minded as you walk down it, but you’re more broadminded with a brain between your ears. https://minister.infrastructure.gov.au/joyce/interview/sunrise-channel-7 Aunty Sherry Fisher-Tilberoo, 49, died of a suspected brain aneurysm in the Brisbane police watch house in the early hours of 10 September 2020 while being held on remand. According to the coroner, police failed to perform adequate physical checks of Fisher-Tiberoo before she died and at a pre-inquest directions hearing the coroner said: “There may be systematic issues with respect to the management of prisoners in watch houses.” The assistant police commissioner Brian Codd announced that an assistant watch house supervisor had been suspended after an internal police investigation into Fisher-Tilberoo’s death. The woman, who is not a sworn police officer, was stood down on full pay for alleged failures of duty “in relation to the performance of physical checks” and “related record keeping”. ISSUES RAISED Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed
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