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sebmojo posted:far cry 6 is v solid so far, easily my favourite of the last lot, walks a good line of telling a sort of serious story about liberating not-cuba and being super dumb. my crocodile has the most darling jacket. So far I have resisted buying it while trying to stick to my “never pay full price at launch” again policy after the Cyberpunk debacle
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If VR is so good then why pray tell is there not a single worthwhile game for it? Even the “good” games on it all turn out to be be buggy inferior imitations. As rough as the early 3D era was, it was still providing new avenues of gameplay we couldn’t experience otherwise. What’s the “killer app” on VR? Light Gun games. Behold the future of gaming! The technological breakthroughs of 1995’s Timecrisis!
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Alyx is supposed to be very good, and the star wars fighter game is fun. I borrowed a psvr from a guy, tried it out twice then didn't touch it again until he asked for it back a few months later, so i guess I answered my question about whether I wanted to buy one
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Nov 8, 2021 12:45
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VR has potential, the potential to sit in a box unused while i lounge on my couch
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Nov 8, 2021 12:51
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My favorite is Walking Dead: Saints & Sinners, which has a focus on physics-based melee combat instead of firearms (but it has those too). Not that it isn't derivative, the developers cite Deus Ex as direct influence, but the hand interactions do completely change how you approach combat situations, simply because you are given so many options. Killer apps are a hindsight thing. Beat Saber still sells well 4 years going, Rec Room is always packed full of people, VR Chat is awful but it's popular. There's also Boneworks, which sits pretty firmly in the "tech demo jank" category, but still: https://twitter.com/JoeahVR/status/1456655032305295363 the ability to do whatever wacky poo poo you can think of is part of it's potential. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 12:53
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galagazombie posted:If VR is so good then why pray tell is there not a single worthwhile game for it? Even the “good” games on it all turn out to be be buggy inferior imitations. As rough as the early 3D era was, it was still providing new avenues of gameplay we couldn’t experience otherwise. What’s the “killer app” on VR? Light Gun games. Behold the future of gaming! The technological breakthroughs of 1995’s Timecrisis! Eleven, the table tennis game, is incredible.
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Nov 8, 2021 13:16
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Nice Van My Man posted:In their heyday from when I (an old man) played them, around the SNES era, they were basically the only games with stories and it was sort of novel at the time. I was shocked to learn that there were people who had been playing them for the gameplay. Besides the gameplay being simple, there's tons of story padding you'd have to put up with between gameplay sequences. The early ones were pretty much entirely gameplay, so they wouldn't have even reached the snes if people didn't. In the snes era there was plenty of poo poo like metal gear, command and conquer, that weird James Bond Zelda game, and so on that did stories via dedicated story space and that's completely discounting all the visual storytelling most console games did due to space limitations.
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Nov 8, 2021 13:40
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SCheeseman posted:This is one of those things already partially solved. The latest Quest update tracks intrusions into your playspace, preventing nutshots and cat-related mishaps and if you're playing PCVR you can pin random windows to your hand or playspace that persist even while playing games, eg. having a Netflix window playing Seinfeld while space trucking in Elite Dangerous is a thing people are already doing. Outright bringing your phone into VR is possible too, I did it back in 2017, but it requires fiddling with Android debug bullshit and interaction was clunky. You can also tap the headset twice to enable passthrough. VR really isn't as isolating as you might think, more work needs to be done though. it's drinking and smoking for me. the thing oculus just added to detect pets and show them inside your play area they need to do for beer and bongs.
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galagazombie posted:Behold the future of gaming! The technological breakthroughs of 1995’s Timecrisis! When I got my VR headset 4 years ago I was in that thing every single day for a year and a half, until very suddenly it just started collecting dust For a while it was neat that it felt like it was a platform for essentially PS2/Dreamcast era arcade quality experiences, which I really missed during an era where gaming was starting to feel bloated. But I can only play fancy time crisis or virtual counter strike for so long before the sheen wears off I think there's also the issues of 1. I don't want to have to exercise to play games, I already do enough of that in my other hobbies and 2. Hot dogs horseshoes and hand grenades spoiled me on how weighty and immersive it's controls were, and no other game has really bothered to reach that level- most of VR's killer apps are just Wii games with a monitor strapped to your face
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Ghosts of Tsushima looks like the most average looking videogame I've ever seen. Its the VG equivalent of a plain cheese sandwhich or a glass of water. Desperate for some pickle or flavored squash to impart some flavour tbh i think "open-world" games are like dime a dozen now and the sub-genre is wearing thin
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:tbh i think "open-world" games are like dime a dozen now and the sub-genre is wearing thin Death Stranding tho
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Nov 8, 2021 16:40
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Nah, we need more submarine games
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Nov 8, 2021 16:43
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bushido blade fuckin' owned. i have great memories of playing that game with some kids on the block. poo poo would get heated. Die by the Blade is a spiritual successor supposedly coming out early next year
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galagazombie posted:If VR is so good then why pray tell is there not a single worthwhile game for it? Even the “good” games on it all turn out to be be buggy inferior imitations. As rough as the early 3D era was, it was still providing new avenues of gameplay we couldn’t experience otherwise. What’s the “killer app” on VR? Light Gun games. Behold the future of gaming! The technological breakthroughs of 1995’s Timecrisis! That "the lab" game that came out with steamvr in 2016 is actually easily one of the best vr experiences, especially longbow and xortex.
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Elentor posted:Man if there's one thing I'll personally never understand is 100%ing or platinuming games. For all the video game brain worms I have being a completionist/doing achievements isn't one of them and whenever I read of people with 200/300+ platinums I'm like, how? This was a while back, but: In FFXIII's case I guess 100%ing was more just "do all the postgame optional bosses" and not "do literally everything and get every achievement." Though I have gotten the platinum for three games ever: Persona 5 Royal (which is doable in a single playthrough if you just do a couple of optional activities along the way), Bloodborne, and the PS5 remake of Demon's Souls. Never really bothered with anything else. In the case of Bloodborne and Demon's Souls it was also really doable--required multiple playthroughs but I was gonna do that anyway for that kind of game. I definitely understand platinuming/getting all achievements or whatever in a game you really love and where the process of getting each achievement is fun, but there are tons of games I'd never want to even try to 100% because the achievements are just so grindy or fiddly or just not fun to do.
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FoolyCharged posted:Nah, we need more submarine games
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:bushido blade fuckin' owned. i have great memories of playing that game with some kids on the block. poo poo would get heated. I just looked up the gameplay video and didn't see any running which was a huge part of what made bushido blade awesome. that freedom of movement. one hit kills are cool but what's cooler is crippling your opponent and running to hop up a ledge they can't climb and cutting down bamboo trees until they are forced to commit suicide
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Nov 8, 2021 17:42
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the controls for bushido blade 1 were so much better than 2, I liked the big roster of 2, it was neat, but why change the controls and get rid of leg damage? couldn't understand that
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Nov 8, 2021 17:45
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The 100 level challenge in 2 was fun as hell
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Bushido Blade was the best PS1 fighting game and the fact nobody will ever touch that gameplay again is a great tragedy of gaming
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galagazombie posted:If VR is so good then why pray tell is there not a single worthwhile game for it? Even the “good” games on it all turn out to be be buggy inferior imitations. As rough as the early 3D era was, it was still providing new avenues of gameplay we couldn’t experience otherwise. What’s the “killer app” on VR? Light Gun games. Behold the future of gaming! The technological breakthroughs of 1995’s Timecrisis! Other than porn, VR is for sims. Anything where you're stuck in a cockpit. If you're into racing sims, you'd probably love it in VR, actually having freedom of movement inside the car to look over your shoulder, get a better angle on a mirror or lean to see around blind spots and corners. It eliminates all the video-gamey penalties for actually driving from the driver's perspective inside of the car and is really immersive and fun for about 20 minutes before I have to quit due to motion sickness. poverty goat fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 17:53
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The most popular VR device on the market doesn't have any sims on it's software platform, the perception that VR is only good for simulators seems to come only from people who only play simulators.
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SCheeseman posted:The most popular VR device on the market doesn't have any sims on it's software platform, the perception that VR is only good for simulators seems to come only from people who only play simulators. Standalone VR is mostly just about Wii games for spoiled kids, yes e: Also I really don't play a lot of sims, but they're what really pops for me in VR. I kinda hated Alyx and never finished it because I felt like I was constantly thrown into combat that forced me to stop playing the game and figure out how to fit the virtual space into my garage so I could fight and move to cover in the correct direction without running into walls. This after moving my PC to the garage so I'd have plenty of room. But I haven't really exhausted the library since I'm not into buying $20-30 demos and only buy games on sale. poverty goat fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Is that what you call any game that isn't a simulator? e: You can play the entirety of Alyx sitting down, you don't need to dedicate a space for it outside of having some room for your arms to move around.
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SCheeseman posted:Is that what you call any game that isn't a simulator? no
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VR racing and flight sims are game-changing. Haven't really played anything else in VR that makes me want it.
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I wouldn't call it game changing, how you interact is mostly identical to playing simulators on a flat panel. It's mostly an immersion boost.
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If you think using a mouse to move your view is even close to as cool as just moving your neck, you are boring and/or don't understand the appeal of VR to most people.
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If VR had an appeal to “most people” it wouldn’t be a niche device barely anybody owns.
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VR has the same appeal as a boat, most people are happy enough just knowing the guy that owns it and hanging out with them once in a while. Most of the people I showed it to think it's super drat cool that you can look around independently of your controls, but they're not exactly fiending to a headset of their own after they leave your house VR will be niche until its inexpensive, completely and 100% effortless to setup, and has content that will actually hold more lasting interest than a trip to Dave and busters
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Walkabout Minigolf and Eleven Table Tennis effectively obsolete the actual activities they're based on. Puzzling places is a neato photogrammetry puzzle game. There's more to VR than shooting things with a gun. Quest 2 is $299 and takes seconds to draw out a playspace and get in-game. Attachment rate is good enough that developers are turning a profit and sticking to the platform. Sucks that it had to be facebook, but the doomsaying didn't really pan out.
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SCheeseman posted:I wouldn't call it game changing, how you interact is mostly identical to playing simulators on a flat panel. It's mostly an immersion boost. HAT switch and neck movement efb It's a game changer for sims
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I'm not saying it's bad, just that in terms of input bandwidth VR doesn't contribute much to simulators. Unless they implement tracked controllers/hand tracking for cockpit interactions then it's rad.
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Until they at least triple the resolution and make the headsets much more comfortable and almost weightless, I’d rather just use trackir for sims.
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SCheeseman posted:My favorite is Walking Dead: Saints & Sinners, which has a focus on physics-based melee combat instead of firearms (but it has those too). Not that it isn't derivative, the developers cite Deus Ex as direct influence, but the hand interactions do completely change how you approach combat situations, simply because you are given so many options. Sorry can't hear you *makes another game with "realistic" reloading* (in general I don't want to do fiddly poo poo to reload). VR has a problem where designers want immersion/realism, but immersion/realism is often times unfun fiddly bullshit. The other problem is while arcadie games are fun there's very little in the way of meat on the bones (at least a year a go) experiences. To be honest though I'm not even sure I want a meatier game I bought Alyx at one point and couldn't be bothered to actually play it. Effort. VR is fine but I'm not convinced it'll be replacing a monitor in my life time. Where that places it on a this is a gimmick scale I don't know. Somewhere between not a gimmick and 3d glasses? Yeah that sounds about right. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Duck and Cover posted:Sorry can't hear you *makes another game with "realistic" reloading* (in general I don't want to do fiddly poo poo to reload). VR has a problem where designers want immersion/realism, but immersion/realism is often times unfun fiddly bullshit. The other problem is while arcadie games are fun there's very little in the way of meat on the bones (at least a year a go experiences. To be honest though I'm not even sure I want a meatier game I bought Alyx at one point and couldn't be bothered to actually play it. Effort. Probably toeing not a gimmick while stilll firmly being one
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one time i met a guy who was very enthusiastic about VR, he owned a business renting the things out. he said VR is amazing because there's porn games, and in the games YOU CAN BE A GIRL. you can be a girl and have sex as a girl in the game. and i said "do you want to be a girl?" and he said "hell yeah buddy, i would fuckin love to be a girl. that would be rad as poo poo" and i said "so you're transgender." and he said "oh no way, being transgender sucks. i don't want to be trans. i just want to be a girl." "So if there's a magic pill you could take that would turn you into a girl, would you take it?" "Oh absolutely." i said "I think that's called being transgender." he was like "nahhh"
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Maybe they were thinking more along the lines of Rob Schneider in The Hot Chick. Like a vacation.
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SCheeseman posted:Walkabout Minigolf and Eleven Table Tennis effectively obsolete the actual activities they're based on. aside from getting fresh air or socializing with friends in person
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Mescal posted:one time i met a guy who was very enthusiastic about VR, he owned a business renting the things out. he said VR is amazing because there's porn games, and in the games YOU CAN BE A GIRL. you can be a girl and have sex as a girl in the game. and i said "do you want to be a girl?" and he said "hell yeah buddy, i would fuckin love to be a girl. that would be rad as poo poo" and i said "so you're transgender." and he said "oh no way, being transgender sucks. i don't want to be trans. i just want to be a girl." "So if there's a magic pill you could take that would turn you into a girl, would you take it?" "Oh absolutely." i said "I think that's called being transgender." he was like "nahhh" lol
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