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edit: i hate when effort posts lost to snipesThe Demilich posted:Any high end reading you recommend regarding both city planning and government? I'm very much into expanding my personal library. Charlatan Eschaton posted:Garden Cities of To-Morrow - Ebenezer Howard 1902 Here's my list: 1. The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America - significant emphasis on how just how "systemic" the problem was, focus is on local land law and the biases of elected officials and their public servants. fantastic footnotes quote:Today’s residential segregation in the North, South, Midwest, and West is not the unintended consequence of individual choices and of otherwise well-meaning law or regulation but of unhidden public policy that explicitly segregated every metropolitan area in the United States. The policy was so systematic and forceful that its effects endure to the present time. Without our government’s purposeful imposition of racial segregation, the other causes—private prejudice, white flight, real estate steering, bank redlining, income differences, and self-segregation—still would have existed but with far less opportunity for expression. Segregation by intentional government action is not de facto. Rather, it is what courts call de jure: segregation by law and public policy. - 2. Rationality and Power: Democracy in Practice - this one is good if you want to see the real politics—and real "rationality"—of policy-making, administration, and planning in a case study (the City of Aalborg) - 3. The Zoning Game - great behind-the-counter analysis of decision making on zoning and land development, especially as it relates to case law - BONUS: The Art of Classic Planning - this one isn't really related to government, but this is a high end book that I very much desperately want to read (its like $100+ RIP me) quote:Nearly everything we treasure in the world’s most beautiful cities was built over a century ago. Cities like Prague, Paris, and Lisbon draw millions of visitors from around the world because of their exquisite architecture, walkable neighborhoods, and human scale. Yet a great deal of the knowledge and practice behind successful city planning has been abandoned over the last hundred years―not because of traffic, population growth, or other practical hurdles, but because of ill-considered theories emerging from Modernism and reactions to it.
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Nov 8, 2021 06:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLcnJEMnlTs welp problem solved wrap it up, climate-ailures
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Nov 8, 2021 06:10
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Alobar posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLcnJEMnlTs thats cool. not going to help anything but its cool.
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Nov 8, 2021 06:59
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Cup Runneth Over posted:thats cool. not going to help anything but its cool. It's actually going to hurt things twice because it's not like we're just going to shoot all that valuable raw material into space, we're going to RECYCLE IT, into our brains, bloodstream, soft tissues, and endocrine glands!  That plastic will get a second chance to get inside US instead of sealife (which I've mostly purged from my diet)! Thanks  !EDIT: Oh, nice, they're turning it into cheap sunglasses, something that embodies disposabilty, like losing a pair of cheap sunglasses off the side of a cruise ship, then buying another pair of cheap sunglasses from a street vendor at a port-of-call. Then leaving those on the ship, only to be tossed by the housekeeping staff, only to make you buy another cheap pair of sunglasses when you realize you can't find the ones you bought in Martinique... BIG HEADLINE has issued a correction as of 07:13 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 07:02
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Would be neat if they'd install an engine that can burn the stuff to power the boats, no way is shipping that poo poo back to the US for disposal / recycling cost-effective in money or CO2
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Nov 8, 2021 07:07
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It's actually going to hurt things twice because it's not like we're just going to shoot all that valuable raw material into space, we're going to RECYCLE IT, into our brains, bloodstream, soft tissues, and endocrine glands! they said they aren't going to make it into sunglasses they just made the one line of sunglasses with the first run to prove they could make things out of old sea plastic also they arent cheap sunglasses. theyre extremely expensive sunglasses
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Nov 8, 2021 08:39
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Charging 199 Euros for cheap sunglasses just makes them extremely expensive cheap sunglasses. They won't be treasured, they won't be passed down, they'll be something, at most, worn by loving *influencers* who'll get told they're such an inspiration for wearing something recycled, at which point they'll be tossed in a drawer where they'll be summarily pitched during a "does it bring me joy" cleansing. I can get prescription sunglasses made out of steel for 199 EUR (granted, they'd be from Costco) that'll last me a lot longer and be reusable over time because contrary to popular belief, you can go into eyeglasses stores and just buy lenses for frames you already own. The only point you made that I can't really refute is that, yes it's just a proof of concept, but poo poo's been made with sea plastic before Charlie and the Amazing Plastic-Catching Condom came along. 
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Nov 8, 2021 08:50
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aphid_licker posted:Would be neat if they'd install an engine that can burn the stuff to power the boats, no way is shipping that poo poo back to the US for disposal / recycling cost-effective in money or CO2 burning it is probably how plastic keeps getting into rain and snow and up mountains and poo poo
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Nov 8, 2021 08:51
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Shima Honnou posted:burning it is probably how plastic keeps getting into rain and snow and up mountains and poo poo Depends, if you're burning it in a big pile sure but you can do some p magical stuff with burn conditions and smoke filters if you can be arsed to pay for it
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Nov 8, 2021 13:30
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Shima Honnou posted:burning it is probably how plastic keeps getting into rain and snow and up mountains and poo poo Maybe incinerate is the right word. Complete combustion can be done if you want to, but yeah just throwing it on a fire won't work.
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Nov 8, 2021 13:51
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it doesn't physically hurt me to go outside (i'll see you next year summer) right now in phoenix but check this out cherry picked this one from a couple days ago when the dichotomy was most noticeable for non-muricans that's ~33C high ~13C low
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Nov 8, 2021 13:55
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Alobar posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLcnJEMnlTs getting theranos vibes from this
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Nov 8, 2021 14:15
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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1457704490392563713
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Nov 8, 2021 14:43
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"In memory of a real tree"
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Nov 8, 2021 14:52
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relevant but NSFW-for-sideboob Blade Runner clip: https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/2ae05e02-2258-47b0-934f-0b1b43709b2f "You think I'd be workin in a place like this, if I could afford a real snake?"
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Nov 8, 2021 14:53
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I was sure the tweet was going to end with "as an nft"
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Nov 8, 2021 14:55
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Raine posted:it doesn't physically hurt me to go outside (i'll see you next year summer) right now in phoenix but check this out now thats some good weather for viruses bacteria and fungi to destroy your weakened temp shocked immune system
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Nov 8, 2021 15:05
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Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey findsquote:Citizens are alarmed by the climate crisis, but most believe they are already doing more to preserve the planet than anyone else, including their government, and few are willing to make significant lifestyle changes, an international survey has found.   the measures that would have actually helped 50 years ago are all pretty loving low on there and (as usual) nobody even mentioned having fewer children. lol. lmao.
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Nov 8, 2021 16:28
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Putting in maximum effort to save the planet 
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Nov 8, 2021 16:34
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Cold on a Cob posted:Few willing to change lifestyle to save the planet, climate survey finds I hate stupid rear end polling like this, because no loving poo poo when the proposition is “Will you do something meaningless for nothing?” few jump on board. This liberal obsession with moralizing people into the most significant social change in human history is loving absurd. But the idea of politics involving human beings getting something out of it, is so anathema to the current liberal order. Instead the plan is cripple you with gas taxes so you later decide to vote to invest in buses. But sorry, investing in buses now is just impossible.
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Nov 8, 2021 16:34
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They're right about the government part though.
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Nov 8, 2021 16:34
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Raine posted:it doesn't physically hurt me to go outside (i'll see you next year summer) right now in phoenix but check this out the climate truly is changing, phoenix had a high below 100f for the first time
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Nov 8, 2021 16:40
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Biosphere Collapse: I don't have the headspace to think about it
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Nov 8, 2021 16:42
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Trabisnikof posted:But the idea of politics involving human beings getting something out of it, is so anathema to the current liberal order. Look buddy, that's just how the world works. Things have to get really, really bad first, then comes the price signal and then we'll see And things simply are not that bad, yet
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Nov 8, 2021 16:46
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goochtit posted:Biosphere Collapse: don't have the headspace to think about it
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Nov 8, 2021 17:06
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I have a lot more headspace to think about it after clear cutting all the useless stuff that was already taking up so much of it
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Nov 8, 2021 17:28
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https://twitter.com/nyt_diff/status/1457743758162898944quote:“These great teeming ecosystems — these cathedrals of nature — are the lungs of our planet,” Prime Minister Boris Johnson of Britain said in describing the pact on Tuesday at an event attended by President Biden and the president of Indonesia, Joko Widodo. You have to get pretty deep into this article before the writer points out that any promised funding and programs are doomed to fail because of the senate.
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Nov 8, 2021 17:31
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WaPo published a seriously good article yesterday. Countries’ climate pledges built on flawed data, Post investigation finds quote:Malaysia’s latest catalogue of its greenhouse gas emissions to the United Nations reads like a report from a parallel universe. The 285-page document suggests that Malaysia’s trees are absorbing carbon four times faster than similar forests in neighboring Indonesia. There's a lot more in the article, but the gist of it is that it turns out dozens of countries have been grossly under-reporting their emission numbers, like with Australia removing the carbon dioxide emissions from their wildfires from the reports (lol, lmao), Malaysia claiming that their magic trees absorb four times as much carbon dioxide as normal, and China not having reported at all since 2014.
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Nov 8, 2021 17:35
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oh god what are all the Xi worshippers going to say now
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Nov 8, 2021 17:36
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This is the standard neoliberal response to disasters now, just like with COVID. Do absolutely loving nothing and point out how you are 18.4% better at doing nothing than the other guy who did nothing.
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Nov 8, 2021 17:40
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actionjackson posted:oh god what are all the Xi worshippers going to say now Seriously. Is there some kind of website I don't know about where you get paid for stanning China and posting proof? https://www.imwillingtoignorethatchinaisatitsheartjustanotherpredatorycapitalistcountry.com?
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Nov 8, 2021 17:47
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actionjackson posted:oh god what are all the Xi worshippers going to say now Can ask the posters in the China thread.
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Nov 8, 2021 17:50
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The water that Coke and Pepsi sell (Dasani and Aquafina, respectively) aren't good enough quality to make Coke and Pepsi out of, and to make things even more depressing, they're bottled from municipal sources that are known to have Where does deja blue come from? That was the best tasting one in the houston supermarkets but i think were only sold at albersons or randalls. Femur has issued a correction as of 18:20 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 17:50
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goochtit posted:Biosphere Collapse: I don't have the headspace to think about it
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Nov 8, 2021 17:54
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" U.S. supermarkets lose an average of 25 percent of their fluorinated refrigerants each year." What the everloving gently caress. Killing the environment when it would be cheaper not to.
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Nov 8, 2021 18:27
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actionjackson posted:oh god what are all the Xi worshippers going to say now China has significantly lower per capita emissions than the west.
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Nov 8, 2021 18:35
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zegermans posted:China has significantly lower per capita emissions than the west. ~40% of their population (~560m people) live rurally and are more or less forced to make do with what's provided to them. They're also kept in that state by poor education. And as has been already established earlier and many times in this thread, countries are known to gently caress with, embellish, and outright LIE about their figures.
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Nov 8, 2021 18:44
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BIG HEADLINE posted:They're also kept in that state by poor education. This part doesn’t track. Poorly educated Americans consume more carbon per capita than well educated French or Swedes or other groups. Laying China’s lower per capita carbon footprint at the feet of poor education just doesn’t really make sense. There are plenty of angles that make sense for someone who wants to rant about China, but this one doesn’t really work?
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Nov 8, 2021 18:51
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Also something that’s always interesting about emissions inventories, is that most of them can be done bottom up or top down. So sure, China or the USA can mislead about our bottom up inventories (e.g. during emergencies at oil and gas facilities we don’t let in scientists to do testing but what do you know a lot of methane leaks happen during emergencies!) But you can’t really fake top down inventory numbers. We know the methane concentration in the atmosphere. Now attributing that to specific actors is hard, but it does put a limit on how much actors can fudge their bottom up inventories before it’s completely out of alignment with top down inventories.
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Nov 8, 2021 18:55
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If a significant segment of your population is under-educated, they're never going to leave their surroundings except in extraordinary circumstances or if they join the military. But the vast majority will be kept in that state of existence. Saying "China has significantly lower *per capita* emissions than the west" requires examination of WHY that is. Of course a country of nearly 1.1 billion where 40% are rurally located is going to have lower per capita emissions, they probably don't have cars. They're probably not moving very far from where they live. If they did, China would lose a good portion of its domestic food production labor. Poorly educated Americans contribute more carbon per capita because our shittiest education systems still make people *just* smart enough to work a cash register and make french fries, and access to cars (or coal-rolling trucks) and other means of carbon-spewing transportation is way easier here. We're also able to generate way more waste because of access to goods and services. We also live in shittily-planned communities that necessitate some form of carbon-spewing transportation to get to. Pretty sure a rural Chinese citizen outputs about as much carbon per capita as a rural American citizen did circa 1920. It's not because China's stumbled onto something that's evaded the rest of us, it's because that citizen is living in the closest approximation to 1920 that is possible in 2021. There's also the hukou system that physically prevents rural Chinese citizens from choosing to move to urban areas: https://brownpoliticalreview.org/2018/05/bridging-gap-chinas-hukou-system-needs-reform/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou BIG HEADLINE has issued a correction as of 19:13 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 19:07
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