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5G around here varies from 10 to 50 Mbps. It's like they just slapped a 5G label on the old 4G.
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AT&T did something like that again after they were calling HSPA+ LTE years back.
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You are going to be constrained by the backhaul regardless. So, if the cell site itself doesn't have enough bandwidth, nothing on the cell network side is going to help. Besides that and the obvious differences in frequencies, there's the whole SA vs NSA (standalone vs non-standalone). NSA is the most common out there now and that means that control channels for the connectivity are still being done over LTE while the data itself is 5G. SA means everything is 5G native. So, you can get into a situation where a 5g signal reaches further, but you can't access it because you lost the LTE control channel. You also lose a lot of 5G's efficiency gains by not going fully standalone too.
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Crossposting: Okay so apparently a neighbor just got a Fitbit luxe and my Pixel 3 is trying to setup the device constantly now. Every minute I get a pop up saying to finish setup go to the playstore and download the fitbit app. I've disabled wifi, Bluetooth, and adaptive connectivity with no luck. Nearby Share is also off. I'm starting to get really pissed off now. There's no way to make this go away. It shows in the top of settings and says tap to setup device and it just takes me to the play store. There's no option to forget the device or anything. An image like the below pops up every minute or so now. 
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Nov 8, 2021 16:40
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Returned my Pixel 6 unfortunately. I wasn’t able to adapt to the size after a week, especially since I hardly do anything with my phone that benefits from a large screen and couldn’t deal with losing comfortable one handed usage. If you’re okay with the size, it’s a pretty great device otherwise! Edit: Coxswain Balls posted:I used to keep looking up the next phone I was going to get once whatever my current phone is started to become annoying due to a complete lack of support once the glitches and bugs started to show after six months to a year. My Pixel 2 is the longest I've owned a device and I still have no desire to upgrade since it does everything I want out of a phone perfectly with no fuss, especially after getting a new battery. I'm also not a fan of some modern design trends so I'm extra happy that this thing can keep on trucking. Thanks for the updates on your battery replacement story. I might follow your lead and replace the battery + flash LineageOS onto my Pixel 2. Shofixti fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 17:21
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Incessant Excess posted:I'm looking for a desktop charging station that fully supports the Pixel 6, so far I've found this: https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Anker-Adapter-PowerPort-MacBook/dp/B088TFZ942/ but it's a bit pricy, does anyone know a cheaper alternative? Wait for the new Pixel Stand?
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Nov 8, 2021 18:01
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I think the implication is that there would be other stuff that was wanting to charge as well. That's the only multiple port desktop charger that I know of that supports PPS at the moment.
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Nov 8, 2021 18:07
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bull3964 posted:I think the implication is that there would be other stuff that was wanting to charge as well. Yup, that's exactly it. I'll keep an eye on a sale for that charger in that case.
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Nov 8, 2021 18:29
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Incessant Excess posted:Yup, that's exactly it. I'll keep an eye on a sale for that charger in that case. Gotcha. I really want the new pixel stand  Is there any other wireless stand that would be equivalent for the Pixel 6?
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I am very happy with my decision to stick with my Pixel Stand 1s. 
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Nov 8, 2021 19:25
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Zotix posted:Crossposting: You're getting the popups on Android? The only time I've experienced something similar was when I was pairing a new set of headphones to Windows and selected the wrong device to try to pair, and canceled out of the process only to have Windows do the same thing you describe. It was a pain in the rear end and I turned off some kind of notification in the Windows Bluetooth settings but it was one in a long line of things I tried that finally worked and I can't say exactly (might have been disabling Swift Pairing?). I haven't had it happen on Android, but hopefully your neighbor will pair the device and it'll stop asking, or there is a time out after a day or something where your phone will stop asking to set it up. Alternatively, just download the Fitbit app and remote control your neighbor's watch.
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Here's some interesting charging rate testing/discussion: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/11/testing-shows-the-pixel-6-cant-actually-do-30-w-quick-charging/
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Shofixti posted:Returned my Pixel 6 unfortunately. I wasn’t able to adapt to the size after a week, especially since I hardly do anything with my phone that benefits from a large screen and couldn’t deal with losing comfortable one handed usage. If you’re okay with the size, it’s a pretty great device otherwise! A mate of mine has a six pro which is the first big phone I've handled in a while, and yeah I really don't know how people deal with something so large and surprisingly heavy
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FistEnergy posted:Here's some interesting charging rate testing/discussion: I dunno if this covers anything new that bull3964 hasn't already gone over in great detail.
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It's all part of the same test. This test puts things into a bit more perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leas-LKsajY The Pixel 6 Pro is at 87% when the S21 Ultra hits 100%. So, instead of looking at the total time (72 minutes vs 120 minutes), you can look at it from a perspective of charge not gained in the same amount of time and I don't know that you are going to have meanful differences from leaving the charger at 87% vs 100% if you absolutely only have an hour to charge.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:You're getting the popups on Android? The only time I've experienced something similar was when I was pairing a new set of headphones to Windows and selected the wrong device to try to pair, and canceled out of the process only to have Windows do the same thing you describe. It was a pain in the rear end and I turned off some kind of notification in the Windows Bluetooth settings but it was one in a long line of things I tried that finally worked and I can't say exactly (might have been disabling Swift Pairing?). I haven't had it happen on Android, but hopefully your neighbor will pair the device and it'll stop asking, or there is a time out after a day or something where your phone will stop asking to set it up. Yeah this is on my pixel 3. In hesitant to do the setup because it requires a Fitbit account.
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Zotix posted:Yeah this is on my pixel 3. In hesitant to do the setup because it requires a Fitbit account. I was mostly joking about installing Fitbit, particularly since the likelihood is that it would direct you to your Bluetooth settings to pair the watch anyway. A glance at the specs for the Charge 4 suggest it only has Bluetooth LE, not wifi, but drat are the Fitbit pages badly set up. I just flipped through the settings on my phones and don't see a way to pre-emptively block devices from Bluetooth, but maybe there's something I'm missing.
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bull3964 posted:It's all part of the same test. I definitely wouldn’t be happy To have charging and battery quirks day one on a brand new flagship device. Why are we giving google a pass for all these issues again?
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I don't think this is an issue, it is by design. I'm assuming the reasoning is that slower charge puts less stress on battery and may in turn mean a longer life on it.
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CoolRanch posted:I definitely wouldn’t be happy To have charging and battery quirks day one on a brand new flagship device. Why are we giving google a pass for all these issues again? There are no quirks. This is the way Pixel charging has always worked with respect to extreme backoff. You are implying there's something wrong, but there isn't.
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CoolRanch posted:I definitely wouldn’t be happy To have charging and battery quirks day one on a brand new flagship device. Why are we giving google a pass for all these issues again? As said, it's not an issue, it's the way it's supposed to work. It results in better long term battery health.
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It's an issue if you want fast charging.
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It's an issue if you absolutely need that last 13% after charging for an hour. Otherwise the phone still fast charges.
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Looking at the video bull posted, they're at 23% and 25% after 15 minutes, 45% and 50% after 30 minutes, and 78% and 92% after an hour, so lol at trying to make this some issue
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Smart people got the base 6 anyway, with it's smaller, faster to charge battery 
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The clue might be in the weight. The S21 Ultra is 19 grams heavier than the Pixel. That weight savings could be a design choice with a smaller gross capacity battery pack even if they have the same net capacity. If the Pixel has smaller buffers in the top, "100%" represents a higher cell voltage than on the S21 Ultra. The higher the voltage, the slower it can safely charge.
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A 5000mAh battery has a typical weight of 70-80grams so 19 grams would seem like a pretty big deviation for the same capacity. The P6Pro uses a lot more plastic. The sides of the camera shroud are plastic and there's a large plastic window for the MMWave antenna at the top. The S21 Ultra also has a big honking metal camera shroud.
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bull3964 posted:A 5000mAh battery has a typical weight of 70-80grams so 19 grams would seem like a pretty big deviation for the same capacity. Unless the shell parts account for all the difference, a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B?
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I just got the trade in notice for my p4xl and they are giving me nearly double previously estimated, so that's cool.
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1.5 weeks in and I'm still not sure whether I hosed up by getting the 6 Pro. This thing is huge and I have not yet gotten used to it.
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:It's an issue if you want fast charging. Right. And the Ars Technica article specifically mentions that the evidence doesn't show significant battery degradation from quick charging. sourdough posted:Smart people got the base 6 anyway, with it's smaller, faster to charge battery 
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My Moment case arrived today for my 6 Pro. I love this phone and how it feels.
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FistEnergy posted:Right. And the Ars Technica article specifically mentions that the evidence doesn't show significant battery degradation from quick charging. This really feels like the phone battery version of "smoking doesn't cause cancer" but what do I know
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couldcareless posted:This really feels like the phone battery version of "smoking doesn't cause cancer" but what do I know I mean, a 1 hour charge is a 1C charge rate, which almost any battery can easily handle with no real risk to it. If we assume the battery is a nominal 4.4v cell when fully charged that'd put a 30w charge at 6.8 amps into the cell, or about 1.5C for the 4.6AH battery when it's charging at its max rate. Nothing especially troubling.
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Chikimiki posted:It's me, I'm the guy that snagged a Pixel 6 on release day to replace my 3a but ended up returning it You’re not alone, the Pixel a series represents the best of the Android platform imo, high priced Android phones are a sucker’s game.
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I tweaked it to pull down the shadows because its pretty bright around here.
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The at a glance weather doesn't update fast enough to keep up with volatile Melbourne weather. Took a jacket when it was warm out. Not unusual for temps to go up and down 20C/35F degrees in a few hours here.
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I'm upgrading my phone for the first time in 5 years (S7 Edge) and I'm seriously contemplating spending $1800 on an Xperia Pro-I. This would be primarily as a backup to my video camera (A7SIII) and to have the ability to record 12 bit video when I don't have it with me. Straight out of camera the photos don't look significantly better than the iPhone 13 max, but they should be less processed leaving more room for editing. Going to wait for some more in depth reviews before I pull the trigger but am I nuts for even considering this thing at this price? I've only been researching this for a couple weeks and I'm a bit out of touch on the phone market. Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Nov 9, 2021 |
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I'm upgrading my phone for the first time in 5 years (S7 Edge) and I'm seriously contemplating spending $1800 on an Xperia Pro-I. This would be primarily as a backup to my video camera (A7SIII) and to have the ability to record 12 bit video when I don't have it with me. I mean, you know it's nuts or you wouldn't be asking. Historically, I'm not sure any Sony phones have ever actually lived up to the hype with their cameras, instead you're generally paying extra for better hardware that actually gets you worse photos than other flagships.
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