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jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Why NFTS and crypto poo poo? Three words

Decentralize. Financial. Crimes.

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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Reddit's plan:
  1. Decentralize social media.
  2. ???
  3. Profit.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1457751651465449475?s=21

I hate everything

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007


I like how essentially they are all positive towards NFTs.

Like where is the I think they suck and are fuckin stupid answer?

Elman
Oct 26, 2009


Saw a poll like this from a newspaper recently. The question was "Do you trade Crypto?" and the options were basically "Yes, a lot", "Sometimes" and "No, I'm too scared".

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


So wait, isn't the blockchain limited to very few transactions a second? How is it going to handle all the amount of reddit posts and votes on it?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
I thought Reddit's pointless points was RedditGold not Karma.


Also lol at people chasing numbers.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Zil posted:

So wait, isn't the blockchain limited to very few transactions a second? How is it going to handle all the amount of reddit posts and votes on it?

It will almost certainly be a "private blockchain" also known as a database

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

jokes posted:

I can’t imagine what it’s like working in tech right now. Everyone, I’m sure, is convinced THEIR cryptocoin is the best thing and will fix everything and is expending all of their social capital, effort, and time to make their company adopt it

if you've been working in that end of tech you've been hopping from one idiotic investment bubble to the next since the pets.com days

probably even before that but IDK what the scam du jour was with punchcards and COBOL

Durzel
Nov 15, 2005


A friend of mine is heavily into this stuff, and listening to him talk about it sounds like someone basically having a conversation peppered with completely random words like CAKE, TOMB, ATLAS, etc, like he's trying to activate me as the Winter Soldier or something.

Every time I speak to him he's talking some new token which is apparently simultaneously the best thing in the world that solves a problem no one even knew they had, or realised they could solve before (DeFi solves everything, apparently).

I keep hearing him talk about APRs and returns of several hundred or thousand percent. Where the gently caress does this money come from to realise those percentage gains? Is it purely greater fool theory Ponzi schemes on steroids and getting in on it on the ground floor? "Launchpads" are the key, apparently.

With regular stocks & shares I understand that gains are basically a function of fundamentals and speculation, etc - but those are "sensible" numbers. I can't for the life of me explain logically how these things create (out of thin air?) hundreds or thousands of percent gains in the space of weeks, etc?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


It's a combination of greater fool theory and pretty naked market manipulation.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

it's a buncha randos repeating all the investment scams they spent the last forty years watching billionaires pull thinking the form of the scam was the important part, not the material assets or the influence to keep your money and stay out of jail when it all goes to poo poo. Throw in a little gambler math where only winnings count, not losses

a huge portion of the crypto market is "backed" by organizations like Tether, allegedly in dollars, except turns out they don't actually have those dollars and have been inventing value out of thin air, lol whoopsy

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Nov 8, 2021

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019





Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

Jose Valasquez posted:

It will almost certainly be a "private blockchain" also known as a database

They're saying that they're going on the Ethereum testnet chain and then the main chain. I guess the plan is that they're going to waste the money on the gas, and then later expect people who opt into this poo poo to pay for it.

There's some convoluted scheme where the compile every subreddit's points each month and then distribute them to users, so it won't be a token per post or upvote. Beyond that, I'm not assing myself to figure this out.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

look what you made me do: a lot of people have asked me to make NFT games and I won’t because i’m not a loving dumbass. now let me tell you why only a dumbass would get into NFT games.
Sorry if this has already been posted but it's a pretty good read.

scopes
Jun 5, 2004
Crypto boosters who managed to wrangle a little bit of money out of it are so goddamn insufferably stupid. You aren't special, you weren't prescient, you're not smart, you're gambling. It's okay to just recognize that you're gambling and that you had just as many chances completely outside of your control of losing your rear end on it as anyone else had. You still do!

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Flip Yr Wig posted:

They're saying that they're going on the Ethereum testnet chain and then the main chain. I guess the plan is that they're going to waste the money on the gas, and then later expect people who opt into this poo poo to pay for it.

There's some convoluted scheme where the compile every subreddit's points each month and then distribute them to users, so it won't be a token per post or upvote. Beyond that, I'm not assing myself to figure this out.

Oh, in that case it'll just be vaporware and never actually happen

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

tehinternet posted:

I wouldn’t care if they did tbh

They’d still be assholes

Bill Gates has a lot of useful American dollars. His ex wife verified the poo poo out of that claim.

I see your point…

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Durzel posted:

A friend of mine is heavily into this stuff, and listening to him talk about it sounds like someone basically having a conversation peppered with completely random words like CAKE, TOMB, ATLAS, etc, like he's trying to activate me as the Winter Soldier or something.

Holy poo poo, man, I can’t stop smiling!

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Lol its been deleted. Was there to much of a negative response to it?

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jose Valasquez posted:

Oh, in that case it'll just be vaporware and never actually happen

Vaporwave on the other hand owns bones and is much better than this.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Oh gently caress sake.
I'm on the toilet here, no toilet roll.
Can someone pass me some blockchain please.

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/calvinbecerra/status/1457725639344021522

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

Durzel posted:

I keep hearing him talk about APRs and returns of several hundred or thousand percent. Where the gently caress does this money come from to realise those percentage gains? Is it purely greater fool theory Ponzi schemes on steroids and getting in on it on the ground floor? "Launchpads" are the key, apparently.

With regular stocks & shares I understand that gains are basically a function of fundamentals and speculation, etc - but those are "sensible" numbers. I can't for the life of me explain logically how these things create (out of thin air?) hundreds or thousands of percent gains in the space of weeks, etc?

Venture Capital firms are investing BILLIONS of USD (not just USDT) into crypto influencer projects that pay writers, artists, and design world people to promote the future of web3 and tokenized propaganda. The playbook is simple, and they’re acquiring "governance" tokens in all these new DAOs, easily making their money back from the other "whale" investors, while still holding large amounts of the speculative tokens.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-18/venture-capital-makes-a-record-17-billion-bet-on-crypto-world

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dypzbq/surprise-the-future-of-media-involves-a-crypto-based-popularity-contest-mirror

vice posted:

The editorial team behind Dirt, the aforementioned Internet culture newsletter, used Mirror to fund an entire season of content for their free Substack and raised around $30,000. Instead of trying to drum up financial support for individual articles, they used the site’s “Editions” tool to sell a collection of 131 animated NFTs, each depicting a publication mascot called “Dirty,” which looks like a smiling cartoon mound of dirt. According to co-founder Daisy Alioto, a culture journalist and audience engagement specialist, the NFTs were also a playful exercise in world-building around the brand—a sort of digital equivalent of the New Yorker tote, grounded in its millennial audience’s nostalgia for pop culture ephemera like Pokemon cards and Beanie Babies.

the future is here, in a vc backed influencer mlm marketing war :munch:

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



"Audience engagement specialist."

Capitalism is a cancer.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

So let me guess, did he buy them back from the scammer for half the price?

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Paladinus posted:

So let me guess, did he buy them back from the scammer for half the price?

yes his "win" is that he bought them back from the people who stole them

https://twitter.com/calvinbecerra/status/1457729814001897476

he had the NFTs blacklisted from the main marketplaces, so the thieves couldn't easily sell them on, but he facilitated them profiting from stealing from him anyway

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

*wheeze*

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah!

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


repiv posted:

yes his "win" is that he bought them back from the people who stole them

https://twitter.com/calvinbecerra/status/1457729814001897476

he had the NFTs blacklisted from the main marketplaces, so the thieves couldn't easily sell them on, but he facilitated them profiting from stealing from him anyway

So since he paid them, doesn't that mean he now has to fill out tax forms for the purchase?

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Zil posted:

So since he paid them, doesn't that mean he now has to fill out tax forms for the purchase?

I hope so.

Vashro
May 12, 2004

Proud owner of Lazy Lion #46
taxes for the ransom payment on his sad monkey avatars? let's hope so

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
My face when I buy a link to a jpeg, it gets stolen, I have to buy it again, and then also have to pay taxes on it:

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Why do they want the exchanges to exist? That’s just an even less transparent and more unregulated middleman incentivized to gently caress you over.

WHY DO THEY WANT TO LOSE MONEY SO BADLY

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe
The replies to that post are just depressing.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

https://twitter.com/calvinbecerra/status/1457727141584375813?s=20

He's still got more ransoms to pay :lol:

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
A fool and his money are soon parted, and also more than once.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

"blue chip NFT"
:laffo:

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





he says he lost his NFTs because they hacked him while pretending to help him with some setting in metamask. my guess is he told someone the secret phrase to his account or something and they stole it. of course in an actual decentralized world he'd be hosed but because opensea and other places that sell NFTs only care about money, they're not going to let this dope who keeps buying NFTs hang out to dry so they helped "ban" the NFTs that were stolen.

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019




https://twitter.com/JJ_Lin/status/1457737582175875075

I get such a Hypnospace Outlaw vibe from all this. This is the new Coolpunk, even Gray's Peak is getting in on the action...

https://twitter.com/CapetainTrippy/status/1457554060966604802

Woah, Fungus Scene!

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HOMOEROTIC JESUS
Apr 19, 2018

Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

This was a good read, thank you for sharing it!

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