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Exit Strategy posted:kill me Still sane, exile? Edit: better quote Gearman fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Nov 7, 2021 |
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Why are south facing LEDs a thing? I've been shopping around for a backlit, exploded 75%, hotswap board, but I keep finding them with south LEDs, and I expect those boards won't work well with the shine-through cap sets that I have currently.
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Nov 7, 2021 18:08
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Copper Vein posted:Why are south facing LEDs a thing? I've been shopping around for a backlit, exploded 75%, hotswap board, but I keep finding them with south LEDs, and I expect those boards won't work well with the shine-through cap sets that I have currently. Well north facing switches apparently can sometimes have problems with GMK caps. apparently I've never experienced this personally, but it's just another check in the box of "reasons I don't care for backlighting."
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Nov 7, 2021 18:14
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I think south-facing works OK with backlit keycaps as long as you get switches with clear tops that diffuse the light over the whole area It won't be as bright as north facing but it should be functional enough
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Nov 7, 2021 18:36
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I don't understand how anyone could work with a brand built on "pc gaming master race"
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Nov 7, 2021 19:24
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Okay. So, I've run the numbers. There's good news: A Sweet Business is in fact a lot less expensive than people think. Raw BOM cost it's about $150 per unit with no switches or caps, including 5052 Aluminum plates. That's in actual fact the cheapest option I can have done - FR4 costs *more* than 5052 from SendCutSend. I could hypothetically go cheaper with acrylic plates, but I don't like how brittle they are and I refuse to send something into the world with that compromise. Adding switches and/or caps, of course, increases the BOM cost and adds labor for me installing the switches, which would be about $40-60 per unit. The OmniSwitch footprint I'm using is compatible with Alps, MX, and Choc switches. That's if five people each want one, and presuming I just buy a bunch of STM32F072RBT6 Nucleo boards from Jolly Olde England via eBay, which is presently the cheapest and most available option to obtain STM32F072RBT6s.
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Nov 7, 2021 19:32
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What would be the bottom line price with switches installed, including labor, taxes, and shipping to the US?
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Nov 7, 2021 19:45
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If that's the price range for this beast count me in.
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Nov 7, 2021 19:47
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Eric the Mauve posted:What would be the bottom line price with switches installed, including labor, taxes, and shipping to the US? I live in the US, and I estimate about $30 shipping all told with insurance. What kind of switches do you want, and also the government isn't currently involved in my affairs with regards to making keyboards though I appreciate you adding that wiggle room.
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Nov 7, 2021 19:49
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These boards are soldered and not hot swap boards right?
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Nov 7, 2021 20:26
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Exit Strategy posted:Okay. So, I've run the numbers. Feel free to PM me, I might be able to get you a better quote for FR4.
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Nov 7, 2021 20:42
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Exit Strategy posted:I live in the US, and I estimate about $30 shipping all told with insurance. What kind of switches do you want, and also the government isn't currently involved in my affairs with regards to making keyboards though I appreciate you adding that wiggle room. MX clears in my case most likely, I'm a man of simple tastes. I'm on the fence so will bow out if 5 others are in but man that thing is cool What software would you use to control what the switches/knobs do, I might be in over my head here
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Nov 7, 2021 20:53
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Eric the Mauve posted:MX clears in my case most likely, I'm a man of simple tastes. I'm on the fence so will bow out if 5 others are in but man that thing is cool I'll get a price on the clears. As for software, QMK will have the firmware for the board as soon as my pull request is cleared. After that, it's just making a new keymap from the default and changing your inputs there for the knobs. The switches and macro blocks report as joystick buttons, so anything like joy2key will work.
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Nov 7, 2021 21:06
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Sign me up for a pcb, alu plate, and whatever microcontroller you’ve built it on. Finally something to compete with my HB85. I’ll probably end up CNC’ing out a case from some extra cherry or walnut I’ve got lying around. 
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Nov 7, 2021 21:40
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Copper Vein posted:Why are south facing LEDs a thing? I've been shopping around for a backlit, exploded 75%, hotswap board, but I keep finding them with south LEDs, and I expect those boards won't work well with the shine-through cap sets that I have currently. Unless it's pudding, where did you find a 75% compatible shine-through set?
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Nov 7, 2021 23:18
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YMDK Carbon Miami Not great. But no fitment issues with the RK84 I bought.
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Nov 8, 2021 01:32
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Just saw this, thank you! e: now if only i could get the loving knob off this stupid gmmk pro so i could 3d print some dumb bullshit to replace it with Yerok fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 02:01
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If a switch is lightly factory lubed (spring, stem, and housing, from the look of these TTC Bluish-Whites), do you need to completely remove that before adding your own, or can you just lube over it? And if you do have to remove it, any suggestions for that process?
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Nov 8, 2021 07:15
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Is GMMK the only full size hot swappable boards in ISO layout?
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Nov 8, 2021 08:47
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Kestral posted:If a switch is lightly factory lubed (spring, stem, and housing, from the look of these TTC Bluish-Whites), do you need to completely remove that before adding your own, or can you just lube over it? And if you do have to remove it, any suggestions for that process? Nah not really, it'll be fine. You just need to wipe it off with a cloth if you want to remove it.
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Nov 8, 2021 10:38
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Boz0r posted:Is GMMK the only full size hot swappable boards in ISO layout? Keychron has one, if you count 96% as full size https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k4-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-uk-iso-layout-version-2 repiv fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 15:39
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Boz0r posted:Is GMMK the only full size hot swappable boards in ISO layout? No mention of ISO on the website yet but it seems like it's planned.
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Nov 8, 2021 16:43
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Llamadeus posted:Ducky just announced a new range of hotswap boards: https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/Keyboards/One3-Series I wonder if they'll be programmable...
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Nov 8, 2021 16:47
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I'm surprised it took this long for Ducky to go hotswap, with soldered switches they had a ludicrous number of SKUs for every colour/switch/language combination
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Nov 8, 2021 17:00
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Llamadeus posted:Ducky just announced a new range of hotswap boards: https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/Keyboards/One3-Series Wow, those sure are yellow.
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Nov 8, 2021 18:05
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Boz0r posted:Wow, those sure are yellow. And keycap ripoffs
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Nov 8, 2021 18:12
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I've sent PMs to the first five people to express interest in a Sweet Business. It's my impostor syndrome telling me that after this run I shouldn't do like a proper group buy, right?
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Nov 8, 2021 20:38
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Exit Strategy posted:I've sent PMs to the first five people to express interest in a Sweet Business. It's my impostor syndrome telling me that after this run I shouldn't do like a proper group buy, right? It may just be my own biases, but because the high end keeb market is so absolutely chock loving full of the same remix of tiny as gently caress board, it feels like there's room for an IBM Battlestation tier full size board to get a ton of interest.
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Nov 8, 2021 21:02
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Gwaihir posted:It may just be my own biases, but because the high end keeb market is so absolutely chock loving full of the same remix of tiny as gently caress board, it feels like there's room for an IBM Battlestation tier full size board to get a ton of interest.  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105440.0
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Nov 8, 2021 21:14
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Nov 8, 2021 21:19
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looks loving dope. drat. reminds me of my EPIC unicomp tkl
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Nov 8, 2021 21:20
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Exit Strategy posted:I've sent PMs to the first five people to express interest in a Sweet Business. It's my impostor syndrome telling me that after this run I shouldn't do like a proper group buy, right? I am fully absolutely going to shill the gently caress out of that board on Reddit and Geekhack.
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Nov 9, 2021 00:50
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Exit Strategy posted:I've sent PMs to the first five people to express interest in a Sweet Business. It's my impostor syndrome telling me that after this run I shouldn't do like a proper group buy, right? I'm sure there will be plenty of people both on Geekhack and Keebtalk that would be interested in something unique like this. Whether you personally want to deal with the logistics, handling, shipping, QC, etc. is entirely up to you 
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Nov 9, 2021 00:50
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I had been using an Acer KU-0760 since it came out in late 2016 and recently, its spacebar stopped registering. I've been waiting for it to die so I can get a replacement anyway. While I do play a few games on PC, I'm not a particular intense gamer and I prefer to play most games on a controller anyway. But I do write for a living, so I need something that's comfortable to type with and is ideally an ISO layout, since that's what I'm used to. I don't personally mind the overly clicky blue switches, but I would find them distracting and I live in a house with others, and I do most of my writing at night, when everyone else has gone to bed. I've been told that I'd probably prefer brown switches the most but my local computer retailer didn't have any examples handy. Cost isn't really an issue, but I also don't need a ton of extra buttons or any fancy bells and whistles. I don't need any fancy RGB nonsense but I don't mind if I can just turn them off. If possible, I'd prefer to buy off Newegg since they accept Paypal. And finally, I'd strongly prefer a wired keyboard. I'm looking through Newegg's options and the Rosewill RK-9000V2 or the Akko 3087 might be good fits for me, but I'd like to know what the thread thinks, since you're all more knowledgeable about keyboards than I am.
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Nov 9, 2021 02:43
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Smythe posted:looks loving dope. drat. They put a loving CROSS cursor pad.. i'm going to throw a fit (not really). Why do that to anyone?! It's pure torture. I remember... I really do.
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Nov 9, 2021 03:34
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redeyes posted:They put a loving CROSS cursor pad.. i'm going to throw a fit (not really). Why do that to anyone?! It's pure torture. I remember... I really do. It looks like the arrow blockers can be moved around to make a cross or conventional arrow pad, or not installed at all to make a full 3x5 grid
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Nov 9, 2021 03:37
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What do people use all the extra keys for? My first mechanical keyboard was a Razer with extra macro keys, but I never knew what to use them for.
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Nov 9, 2021 10:02
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Boz0r posted:What do people use all the extra keys for? My first mechanical keyboard was a Razer with extra macro keys, but I never knew what to use them for. Whatever you want, really. Depending on the keyboard and how you program it, they can be single keystrokes or even chains of keystrokes (typically called macros). When I was briefly using a keyboard with F13-F24 I made some of them media playback keys to control winamp or whatever. In games that take keyboard inputs you can bind commonly used key combinations or make macros with the keyboard to perform actions over and over. Macros were popular with text based muds back in the day but plenty of modern games still let you do a bunch of keys to do things. In ultima online I used to bind different spells to some of the additional keys on my unicomp ultra so I could have easy access to summon demon or blade spirit which weren't used a whole lot but when you needed them you often needed them right now. For a more modern example I currently play Planetside 2 and there's in game voice with different voice channels for local talk, squad talk, command chat, etc. The default binds are on the number keys but you could put them anywhere. They also have slash commands to do a lot of shortcuts for squad and platoon management that are slower with the GUI (plus you have to stop shooting people to open the interface and click around).
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Nov 9, 2021 13:06
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Boz0r posted:What do people use all the extra keys for? My first mechanical keyboard was a Razer with extra macro keys, but I never knew what to use them for. I do a lot of 3270 and 5250 terminal work for, well, work, and having dedicated f13-24 keys is really nice in there.
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Nov 9, 2021 14:47
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repiv posted:It looks like the arrow blockers can be moved around to make a cross or conventional arrow pad, or not installed at all to make a full 3x5 grid Now we are talking. I assume the cost is about a grand.. drat, that is one sexy keyboard!
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