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Blue On Blue posted:I hope this doesn’t sound too strange to point out There is an English voice in the clip saying "Wot yer doin'?" (he doesn't know wot e's doin)
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 18:24 |
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quote:Aww c'mon... really? How many times have people predicted doom and gloom because of a mechanic or bug they don't like, poor frame rates, or because things are not progressing as fast as they would like? It's never happened.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 18:54 |
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"The company is making a lot of money, therefore the game will be fine!"
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 18:58 |
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I'm a fan of Elite: Dangerous too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIkQW8A0CAs (17 seconds vid.)
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 19:03 |
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Blue On Blue posted:I hope this doesn’t sound too strange to point out Just like he always wears the same clothes he has multiple copies of that room in different places.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 19:32 |
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https://i.imgur.com/yGuy4gW.mp4
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 19:33 |
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Fidelitious posted:They've gotten all tangled up with what 'emergent gameplay' even means. That came from a self-confessed Elite Dangerous player. That's the crowd which considers that using Fuel Limpets to refuel other players is emergent gameplay. When that is the only thing you can do with fuel limpets, since they have no other function and NPCs have infinite fuel. I mean, maybe if they didn't blow up when you bump into them, you could use a fuel limpet as a football and make some sort of zero-g rocket league, which would actually fall into the emergent category. But no. Using stuff to do what it was designed to do, in the only way it can be used, that's the epitome of emergent gameplay for the ED crowd. No wonder the dude feels that it would be emergent gameplay to be stranded in a lift if the developers intentionally designed the lift so that players could be stranded inside it.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 19:43 |
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"Emergent gameplay" is one of those terms that had a crystal-clear, unmistakable meaning, and over the years has degenerated into a completely meaningless marketing buzzword. Sort of what Gears 5 did to the term "open world" because of two maps that are slightly bigger and require a vehicle to move between points of interest. I think fighting terminology decay is a losing battle. Even the original terminology for "nerf" and "holy trinity" in the MMO space is not even close to what it was. It's fine for words to change over time I guess, but when you do that, what do you call the original thing when it's done properly? If "emergent gameplay" now means anything at all, what do you call actual emergent gameplay? There's a watering down going on over time in entertainment with terminology and tropes and I think it's negatively affecting how developers conceptualize what they're making.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 19:51 |
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"Emergent Gameplay" is what Chris Roberts does with the money that he takes from a project that now has 20 times the budget he first asked for yet still has not completed after 10 years.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 20:46 |
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Drakkel posted:"The company is making a lot of money, therefore the game will be fine!" Ah the Enron defence
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 20:52 |
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Snot kittizen
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 22:21 |
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And that's the original footage of the outbreak of Catvid-21 that ended Humanity (But not Star Citizen development).
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 00:24 |
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FishMcCool posted:That came from a self-confessed Elite Dangerous player. That's the crowd which considers that using Fuel Limpets to refuel other players is emergent gameplay. When that is the only thing you can do with fuel limpets, since they have no other function and NPCs have infinite fuel. I believe limpet controller was added upon request of the players, but not 100 % sure. It has been added with other types, so it was possibly Frontier's idea (before the limpets you had to catch ore chunks via cargo hatch, must've been awful, tbh).
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 00:38 |
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Jobbo_Fett posted:This man's posture is the purest imitation of Hans Moleman I've ever seen. That's what happens when you carry the weight of a $400M(?) project.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 02:59 |
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no_recall posted:That's what happens when you carry the weight of a $400M(?) project. Or perhaps its just a guilty conscience weighing him down?!
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 03:01 |
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quote:What you are describing is how we rationalize how games are made today - that doesn't make it right. quote:Depends - I can't think of many games that would required everything SC is producing, simply because part of the point of SC is to blow existing scope limits out the water...
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 06:33 |
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Mirificus posted:However, I think a lot of what CIG are doing is relevant, yes. E.g. imagine an MMO Skyrim style game (well, I guess that would be Elder Scrolls Online :p) with no loading screens, proper-sized buildings, and the Unified Animation System (coupled with actually spending time on the animations)? I like it how, on one hand, they don't want to spend 10 seconds looking at a loading screen but, on the other, they want to spend hours walking doing nothing.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 06:44 |
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Dr. Honked posted:There is an English voice in the clip saying "Wot yer doin'?" I can also faintly make out a chimney sweep exclaiming "Wot's all this then, guvna?" in the background.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 07:06 |
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quote:We will definitely break $400 million before the month is out - Guinness Book of Records for the 9th year running. Not sure if this is OP quoting an old post but even $400m in 9 years is not a Guinness world record to be proud of. I could piss up a rope and come back with about the same amount of content
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 08:33 |
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Scruffpuff posted:It's fine for words to change over time I guess, but when you do that, what do you call the original thing when it's done properly? If "emergent gameplay" now means anything at all, what do you call actual emergent gameplay? There's a watering down going on over time in entertainment with terminology and tropes and I think it's negatively affecting how developers conceptualize what they're making. Ludonarrative dissonance.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 09:55 |
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Mirificus posted:
I guess this is why theaters of fart have such a great performance. Nothing like wasting resources creating whole planet when actual game takes place in a single skyrim sized crater
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 10:13 |
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I searched Guinness World Records page for "star citizen" and some of those records are just laughable and clearly bought by some idiot whale. *not flyable "Record verified via the biggest MMO games websites, predominantly EVE Online and Star Citizen." just wtf
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 10:40 |
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Dwesa posted:
This is the silliest possible brag. All models these days have huge amounts of polygons, especially organic ones, because they are done with Z-Brush or whatever. But competent studios bake the fine detail into normal maps. But SC needs every screw to be a high res model.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 10:56 |
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"Largest flyable ship in star citizer" is sure some world record. It is like "fastest car in GTA 4" or "monster with most HP in Doom". If this was a game where you build spaceships then okay maybe
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 11:22 |
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commando in tophat posted:"Largest flyable ship in star citizer" is sure some world record. It is like "fastest car in GTA 4" or "monster with most HP in Doom". If this was a game where you build spaceships then okay maybe "Largest number assigned to a integer variable"
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 11:29 |
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jarlywarly posted:"Largest number assigned to a integer variable" And because they scale every object down to be able to get around the engine limitations, the ship is actually only 1 cm long.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 11:35 |
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Mirificus posted:Games had to be dumbed down to support a controller, rather than have 15 pages of natively supported keybind
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 12:38 |
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Shhh, don't point out Derek's alt!
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 12:43 |
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These days games don't even provide keyboard overlays!
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 12:43 |
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Some Citizens have started creating NFTs of their screenshots. There's a few cOlLeCtiOnS on opensea.io. Sadly noone has bid for any of the screenshots yet https://opensea.io/collection/star-citizen-universe-captures https://opensea.io/collection/star-citizen-screenshots-4k https://opensea.io/collection/star-citizen-game-screenshots I wonder why who wouldn't want to own a link to this screenshot for example
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 12:55 |
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commando in tophat posted:"Largest flyable ship in star citizer" is sure some world record. It is like "fastest car in GTA 4" or "monster with most HP in Doom". If this was a game where you build spaceships then okay maybe And even then the biggest spaceship thing should probably go to like Space Engineers because you can build some pretty big spaceships there. Haven't tried it myself but it looks pretty fun and now I'm worried that I might buy another space game chadbear posted:Some Citizens have started creating NFTs of their screenshots. There's a few cOlLeCtiOnS on opensea.io. Sadly noone has bid for any of the screenshots yet loving lol at this holy moly. I mean NFTs do seem like a natural evolution for the worst of Star Citizen fans.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 13:02 |
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I once made a cube in Blender that I declared to be a million gillion bazillion miles long, and then I imagined what it would be like in star citizen, where's my world record
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 13:03 |
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lobsterminator posted:These days games don't even provide keyboard overlays! This keyboard is amazing, I have so many questions, I want to try all the buttons. There is a button for PI? Something that looks like layout on each letter key? Colors as alt on numbers? Too bad the keyboard is older than me, it looks super good BiggestOrangeTree posted:I once made a cube in Blender that I declared to be a million gillion bazillion miles long, and then I imagined what it would be like in star citizen, where's my world record Is it a flyable cube? How many millions of polygons? How many bathrooms? Does it have kitchen?
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 13:38 |
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commando in tophat posted:This keyboard is amazing, I have so many questions, I want to try all the buttons. There is a button for PI? Something that looks like layout on each letter key? Colors as alt on numbers? Too bad the keyboard is older than me, it looks super good It's not just a keyboard it's the whole computer a Commodore 64 from the days when the computer and the keyboard were often combined. The colour keys are the 1st 8 colours available of the 16 colours supported by the VIC-II graphics chip. jarlywarly fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Nov 9, 2021 |
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commando in tophat posted:How many millions of polygons?
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 14:14 |
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commando in tophat posted:This keyboard is amazing, I have so many questions, I want to try all the buttons. There is a button for PI? Something that looks like layout on each letter key? Colors as alt on numbers? Too bad the keyboard is older than me, it looks super good The symbols under the letters are known as PETSCII. It was used to make stuff similar to ANSI art but the variety of blocks allowed for more interesting text mode art: http://text-mode.org/?tag=petscii
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 14:17 |
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chadbear posted:Some Citizens have started creating NFTs of their screenshots. There's a few cOlLeCtiOnS on opensea.io. Sadly noone has bid for any of the screenshots yet This has to be peak SC.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 14:23 |
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quote:I still remember when they slowed it way the gently caress down. Would get into qt, go take a poo poo, get some coffee, smoke a cig, rethink my life and when i came back was still in qt. I don't think its about realism. It's about game mechanics. Imagine if fleets could bop in and out that fast. Problematic me thinks. quote:They're still short in their "test" mode, so they'll be longer at release again. quote:[–]Lethality_ 13 hours ago quote:Okay just to have an alternate opinion, I work, I have school, if I’m playing a game I’d prefer not to spend 20 minutes doing nothing or doing something else. I don’t have a lot of free time. As more star systems come out the issue resolves itself, you can travel real fast in between planets, but going between systems is when you can smoke your cig. quote:I think you may want to look into other games, then. That or adjust your playstyle in this one to reduce the amount of quantum jumps you need to make. SC has a pretty particular vision and, while I'm not saying you're trying to force this (you're just stating your opinion, that's fine, and so am I), I do think it's wrong to try to force the vision of a game to change because of obligations making it more inconvenient/less enjoyable for you.
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# ? Nov 9, 2021 14:45 |
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commando in tophat posted:This keyboard is amazing, I have so many questions, I want to try all the buttons. There is a button for PI? Something that looks like layout on each letter key? Colors as alt on numbers? Too bad the keyboard is older than me, it looks super good hmmm...it seems to be an Ore 64 Computer...whats a Ore 64?
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lobsterminator posted:The symbols under the letters are known as PETSCII. Oh right, now I see it. I remember doing "graphics" in dos text mode from characters for tables or whatever was the original purpose
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