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goddamnedtwisto posted:I genuinely think you have to go back to Ray Clemence to get a regular England keeper who you don't have to give a disclaimer for. Going backwards on this list, ignoring players with less than 10 caps: Or if Neville Southall had played for England instead of Wales
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I think he will get a decent new manager bounce out of them but then things will quickly tail off and there will be lots of shots of him looking sad and confused in the technical area, and he will say in his press conference that they can't keep giving away soft goals.
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Nov 9, 2021 10:56
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Lampard did well at Derby and when Chelsea werent able to buy any players, but he quickly looked out of his depth once he was expected to suddenly win with a team he hadnt put together.
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Nov 9, 2021 11:12
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If his time at Chelsea is anything to go by Lampard is very good at playing/developing youth and very bad at defensive organisation, which seems like exactly the opposite of what Norwich needs if they want to stay up. This calls for a Large Samuel-type, imo.
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Whether or not Lampard would be good for Norwich is debatable but I'm pretty certain Norwich wouldn't be good for Lampard. Absolute poison chalice and I would give him close to 0% chance of keeping them up. As previously mentioned this gig isn't his dance based on his prior experience. As much as I was dismayed when Big Sam came to Everton he is exactly what Norwich need now.
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Andoman posted:Whether or not Lampard would be good for Norwich is debatable but I'm pretty certain Norwich wouldn't be good for Lampard. Absolute poison chalice and I would give him close to 0% chance of keeping them up. As previously mentioned this gig isn't his dance based on his prior experience. As much as I was dismayed when Big Sam came to Everton he is exactly what Norwich need now. He might not be being hired to keep them up, it might be more locking down someone who can win the Championship with them next season
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Nov 9, 2021 11:22
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Seems like an odd decision to drop Farke now if that's the case?
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Nov 9, 2021 11:24
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Unless they want to give him 2 transfer windows to build a squad I guess?
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TheRat posted:Seems like an odd decision to drop Farke now if that's the case? Norwich don't care if they're a yo-yo club, but Farke hasn't made them any stronger over the previous yo. They've not sacked him because they're afraid of relegation, but he's not done the job they're expecting of him.
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Andoman posted:Whether or not Lampard would be good for Norwich is debatable but I'm pretty certain Norwich wouldn't be good for Lampard. Absolute poison chalice and I would give him close to 0% chance of keeping them up. As previously mentioned this gig isn't his dance based on his prior experience. As much as I was dismayed when Big Sam came to Everton he is exactly what Norwich need now. Allardyce failed at West Brom, and didn't really seem to give much of a poo poo. I reckon he's done.
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TheRat posted:I feel like Lampard could do a decent job at a comfortably lower-midtable team with a good academy and lots of promising youth players, but a desperate Norwich that's almost certainly doomed does not seem like a good fit. Lampard should run as a Tory MP and complete his transition into a full oval office
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Nov 9, 2021 11:36
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Steve Bruce is available Alternatively Alan Pardew
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In solidarity with Derby, Lampard will take Norwich to beat the lowest points total for a season
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/WestHam/status/1458008428559884291?t=DkRpa9M1hf3lQhbwwYnPWQ&s=19  I was surprised he stayed on after he twisted his knee because it looked bad. Luckily Jota knew something was off and sent him to the doctor's office.
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That list is missing Paul Robinson, who was quite good from what I remember
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McFlurry Fan #1 posted:That list is missing Paul Robinson, who was quite good from what I remember *For an English goalkeeper.
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McFlurry Fan #1 posted:That list is missing Paul Robinson, who was quite good from what I remember Just don't mention the back pass that broke him
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that one shootout in the 06 world cup was pretty bad he was real solid for spurs though, or so i remember. until he too got very bad very quickly for some mysterious reason
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The Telegraph have started doing proper articles on the Gerrard to Villa story so now I’m just resigned to everything being poo poo.
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Can Gerrard and lampard manage in the same league
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the sex ghost posted:Can Gerrard and lampard manage in the same league We won’t find out because Gerrard is staying obviously.
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I appreciate that there are better managers than Gerrard out there, but the work he's done with Rangers is much more impressive than what Lampard did with Derby.
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tarbrush posted:I appreciate that there are better managers than Gerrard out there, but the work he's done with Rangers is much more impressive than what Lampard did with Derby. Is the Scottish League even remotely close to The Championship, though?
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Weaponized Cum posted:Is the Scottish League even remotely close to The Championship, though? Yeah it's probably only a few hour drive to most of the grounds
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Weaponized Cum posted:Is the Scottish League even remotely close to The Championship, though? Less competitive certainly and I would imagine that given the PL parachute payments there is probably more cash splashing around the championship than the SPL but that said managing Rangers (or Celtic for that matter), is still a tough gig and he has done well. Not enough experience for Liverpool yet but I reckon he is ready to cut his teeth in the PL
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Weaponized Cum posted:Is the Scottish League even remotely close to The Championship, though? Eh, dunno about that. I'd say Rangers and Celtic could probably beat top Championship teams but the rest of the SPL is fairly bad. The impressive thing Gerrard did was dethrone Celtic's 10 in a row season by absolutely waffle stomping the league and winning by 20 points in the end.
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Lets not kid ourselves here, Celtic very much dethroned themselves.
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TheRat posted:Lets not kid ourselves here, Celtic very much dethroned themselves. Celtic collapsed but Rangers also went undefeated so...
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the sex ghost posted:Can Gerrard and lampard manage in the same league One stays (up) one goes (down).
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Yeah, "just" winning the SPL isn't *that* impressive, it was the manner in which they did it.
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Yeah they also only conceeded 10 goals in the entire season
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I put Stevie's advanced managerial stats into an SPL to prem converter and the machine is giving off sparks and printing off 'aston villa win the league' over and over
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It’s a difficult one to quantify because the vast riches of PL money (and the shockingly bad deals the SPFL negotiate) absolutely distorts ‘normal’ football comparisons - Aberdeen manage better attendances than Bournemouth but make £100m less, without Leicester and the miracle win, the PL would be as dominated by four clubs in 20 as the SPFL is by 2 teams in 12, nobody bitches that City make 10x Fulham when they beat them etc etc etc. Winning the league was obviously important last season, and the defensive performances incredible. Cups were poo poo and any time a keeper comes up for a corner I’m going to have flashbacks. If you’d asked, people would have taken that particular one out of the three though. The recent domination of the Old Firm is also a sign that him and Beale are able to adapt really well to different challenges. Realistically, the only way to judge him it is to look at European results, and over the last three and a bit seasons Gerrard has managed incredible runs to the knockouts that have rocketed Scotland up into the second tier of European football outside of the ‘top 5/6’ leagues. Compare that to some of the PL clubs and the performances have been good - though you can then argue that Spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea see the initial rounds as training and youth opportunities, and the likes of Burnley see it as a distraction so the results aren’t 1:1 comparable. I still don’t see him leaving the potential Champions League group stage experience at Rangers for the slog of Villa in the Prem*. If he were a non-player manager, then maybe the financials would make it more attractive, but it’s not like him, Lampard and the like aren’t able to pick and choose quite carefully given how set they are. Might be more hope than expectation there though. *maybe not even, I hadn’t realised how bad a run they’d been on.
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CyberPingu posted:I'd say Rangers and Celtic could probably beat top Championship teams lmao
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sassassin posted:lmao You are right, maybe just Rangers. Celtic are poo poo now
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sassassin posted:lmao Wrexham will get promoted to the Prem before you 
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