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i mean yeah it's naked greed - same as charging more for new emulators on the online service. they charge it because people will pay for it, and they can. people who want it will pay for it. the same could be said for lots of things - DLC, updates, whatever - why not release it as a value-add instead of a new charge? the general answer is that if the market will bear the company charging for something, they'll charge for it. how an individual feels about the value proposition can vary from "this feels sleazy/nintendo is loving us again" to "the devs would starve to death if the publisher didn't charge/only entitled assholes would balk at paying $x for Y" i generally feel like game companies go way too hard on new charges and executive bonuses and not near hard enough on value-adds for customers and treating their employees well. i just kinda complain about it and then pay anyway cause i can absorb an extra $40 a year or whatever without trouble. at least nintendo doesn't brag about their record breaking profits while laying people off; for that reason i'm not near as annoyed as i am with other companies when new charges show up, so i'm not annoyed enough to stop buying stuff idk how applicable the "executive bonus" thing above is to gamefreak but afaik japanese companies aren't as bad about it as american ones. i basically dont buy big-budget american games on release any more cause most of those companies are doodyheads imo
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I wouldn't say japanese companies are better about things, there's just somewhat different expectations and roles for company heads that alter how the same fundamental stuff plays out. Like how technically mass layoffs are seen as more of a bad look but they just instead exert internal pressure to get people to quit.
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that's an interesting point! it hasn't occurred to me how "convince people to quit" could cover for layoffs in some, uh, not great ways
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Nov 10, 2021 01:53
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Detective No. 27 posted:Dunno. Everyone who pre-ordered it from Amazon, no matter which of the three versions (regular, steelbook, collector's edition) got an email on Saturday saying their copy might be having a shipping delay. Rumor is that a shipping container didn't arrive on time or something. Should I preorder the standard edition on Best Buy for same day pickup just in case and cancel it if there is a steelbook version available at launch? Usually I wouldn't give a poo poo. But I want to beat this game before FFXIV: Endwalker, so every day is precious time.
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Nov 10, 2021 01:59
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mycophobia posted:when has it ever not been basically the same rom its always been bad to sell a double pack of the same game.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:03
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howver that beding said nintendo stays winning
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Achmed Jones posted:idk how applicable the "executive bonus" thing above is to gamefreak but afaik japanese companies aren't as bad about it as american ones. i basically dont buy big-budget american games on release any more cause most of those companies are doodyheads imo thank you for your service king. we'll show them whaht for.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:05
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hatty posted:I never understood those that buy both. Just coordinate with your friends/family, that’s why there’s different versions in the first place But the games have regularly have pokemon there is only one of - eg: the box legendary, so unless you've got a friend who's willing to give that up without you giving yours up in return, there's not enough to go around, unless you want to play through the game a second time.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:07
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If you think about it, if you pay to play video games it's actually you that's getting played
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Nov 10, 2021 02:09
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Just get a cheater to trade you the stuff you need instead of spending $60 to flip the flag you need to trade with yourself.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:11
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Hey 100 how are your thoughts now this far into FFX? I was going to play again but the unskippable cutscenes pushed me to actually play FFX-2 for the first time and I'm liking it. I miss Blitzball though.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:12
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Lol Gamefreak If they haven't made all the mainline games in this fashion I'd be shocked. Achmed Jones posted:that's an interesting point! it hasn't occurred to me how "convince people to quit" could cover for layoffs in some, uh, not great ways In places like the US it also means not paying unemployment for those people. 
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Nov 10, 2021 02:18
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"This is the funniest poo poo I've seen in years" I feel bad for your life.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:20
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Bust Rodd posted:Pokémon Sword was one of the first games I played on Switch and I got to the 3rd gym and realized it was a baby game for little babies and sold it. Which one wasn't?
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Nov 10, 2021 02:34
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punk rebel ecks posted:Should I preorder the standard edition on Best Buy for same day pickup just in case and cancel it if there is a steelbook version available at launch? There really is no way to tell. I guess there's nothing stopping you from ordering the standard edition and then exchanging it if Best Buy has a steelbook on the shelf.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:38
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mycophobia posted:the games are still made for children, but you grew up. can't be too mad about it imo While this is true, there also wasn’t online trading with randos when I was a kid so it at least made sense to trade with friends in person. These days kids can buy one version of the game and still trade for every Pokémon even if they don’t have a friend with the game, it makes having version exclusive Pokémon kind of dumb.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:40
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Evil Fluffy posted:If they haven't made all the mainline games in this fashion I'd be shocked. Probably not the GB gens. Depending on version every monster has different sprites in those versions and space was a legitimate concern.
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I got over 50 hours in Sword, I don't remember much of any of it, but the DLC ruled. Also doing quick multiplayer fights in the Wilds. First Pokemon I ever played though so yeah.
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Nov 10, 2021 03:14
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Diamond/Pearl was kind of the first gen where you no longer needed a friend with the other version, because of the global trading system
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the hype bonus sustained my blue and gold playthrus as a kid because i was a kid and every other kid was playing it. i didnt play any other pokemons until sword/shield came out and i played shield and it was really boring but i still beat it for some reason. im playing fire red on and off and the nostalgia bonus is enough for that i think
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Nov 10, 2021 03:20
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GTS is a good idea in theory but 90% of the time it's people putting up their rare stuff requesting an impossible trade in order to brag.
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Nov 10, 2021 03:28
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Probably not the GB gens. Depending on version every monster has different sprites in those versions and space was a legitimate concern. They were still likely coded as a single game, with a copy then used to make the other version. If space would've allowed them to just have a single code with flags to toggle I'm sure they'd have tried to go that route (assuming they didn't try and hit those space concerns then change course).
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Nov 10, 2021 03:35
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I always the difference between pokermans games was one would have half of the pocketmens and the other game had the other half of the porkrangoons (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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No. 1 ANIME HATER posted:I always the difference between pokermans games was one would have half of the pocketmens and the other game had the other half of the porkrangoons shut the gently caress up
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Nov 10, 2021 03:48
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No, there's just, like, five or six pikmins per generation that are exclusive to each version and a few cosmetic textures
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mycophobia posted:shut the gently caress up
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Bring Dragon Quest Monsters back!
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mycophobia posted:shut the gently caress up LOL no
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No. 1 ANIME HATER posted:I always the difference between pokermans games was one would have half of the pocketmens and the other game had the other half of the porkrangoons 
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Nov 10, 2021 03:59
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mycophobia posted:shut the gently caress up
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Pretty cool that Nintendo is hosing buttmad nerds for double pokesterman games The Nintendo winning never ends
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No. 1 ANIME HATER posted:Pretty cool that Nintendo is hosing buttmad nerds for double pokesterman games https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4mY4FHyT80
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Nov 10, 2021 04:01
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Why do they call it a Pokemon when you poke in the ball and out of fight the mon
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mycophobia posted:the hype bonus sustained my blue and gold playthrus as a kid because i was a kid and every other kid was playing it. i didnt play any other pokemons until sword/shield came out and i played shield and it was really boring but i still beat it for some reason. im playing fire red on and off and the nostalgia bonus is enough for that i think firered f tw. heartgold also is win.
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Gen 5 ruled
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Heartgold is the best Pokemon game. They should have never evolved past those graphics.
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a friend lent me heartgold and its sitting in a drawer. ill play it someday
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why does the best console forum always get so hostile lol
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mycophobia posted:a friend lent me heartgold and its sitting in a drawer. ill play it someday You should give it back to your friend, that’s their retirement fund you’ve got sitting in a drawer
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