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FunkyAl posted:With those, I don't think there was a studio! When they talk about at least the earliest ullmans it sounds like David Silverman and a very few other people doing the animation. These drawings look Silverman-y, it may just be that he was animating most of it and had more control than he would with a studio. That would definitely make sense. It's kind of strange how those shorts had the more "perfected" look of the more compact and fluid animation design, like you can see how much more three dimensional they move when he's doing the animation. I don't know why Klasky-Csupo had such a had time with reproducing that other than just lack of talent. It's almost like they took a step back when KC did the first and second seasons.
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Annabel Pee posted:I just looked this up, so min wage in 1994 was $4.25, min now is $7.25. $5 an hour is equivalent to $9.33 an hour today, seems low but I don't remember if the joke was that? I dunno, don't ask me how the economy works.
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I think this has come up in the thread before, but the Babysitter Bandit episode was supposed to be the premiere. they got back the animation and it was so incredibly lovely that the episide had to be redone entirely... just wildly off-model and badly done. it almost sank the show before it even started.
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Empty Sandwich posted:I think this has come up in the thread before, but the Babysitter Bandit episode was supposed to be the premiere. they got back the animation and it was so incredibly lovely that the episide had to be redone entirely... just wildly off-model and badly done. it almost sank the show before it even started. Did they ever release that version?
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Nov 10, 2021 18:52
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i think there were clips of it on the season 1 dvd
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I want to say Brooks in particular took one look at it and was like, "wtf is this poo poo send it back and make those fuckers do it again or everyone is fired".
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mycophobia posted:i think there were clips of it on the season 1 dvd Oh yeah wow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_aRpQIIAq8 That looks more like an episode you'd try to sell to the network or something and not a fully finished episode.
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AHH F/UGH posted:That would definitely make sense. It's kind of strange how those shorts had the more "perfected" look of the more compact and fluid animation design, like you can see how much more three dimensional they move when he's doing the animation. I don't know why Klasky-Csupo had such a had time with reproducing that other than just lack of talent. It's almost like they took a step back when KC did the first and second seasons. I wonder if the change from doing 5 minute shorts to doing 25 minutes of animation is part of the reason. If you look at television animation, it wasn't exactly a high point. You had stuff like G.I. Joe with very stiff animation that made heavy use of reusing shots, you had stuff like the Super Mario Super Show which had a ton of errors in every episode. I could be wrong about that though.
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I think the new one is supposed to be a parody of A Serious Man, but I don't know that movie so I can't say how closely it follows it. Also, it does another opening with the Fargo text too. The whole episode feels a lot more like a Fargo than anything else. The bad guys kill and graphically chop up the rich Texan's body over a debt he owes the main one (Brian Cox) Ned finds a ton of money in a bag in the woods and donates it to the orphanage in the name of his grandfather (Ned Flanders the 1st). He gets on the news and draws the attention of the bad guys who lost the money years ago or something. The bad guys rough up Comic Book Guy to find out where Flanders is, and he calls Fat Tony to complain about not being protected for his protection money. The bad guys get Flanders' address, but lose it and wind up at the Simpsons and kidnap Homer instead. The bad guys call Ned and threaten Homer's life to get their money. Marge starts looking for Homer. Ned starts dating the orphanage owner (Cristin Milioti) who is a Minnesota stereotype. They go back to her place but he finds out she's married to Sideshow Mel and they have an "arrangement". Fat Tony confronts the bad guys at a donut shop where Marge is looking for Homer. Disco Stu, the Springfield mobster, and Mr. Burns are killed in the shootout. Marge finds Homer's company ID badge after the bad guy leaves. TO BE CONTINUED Not a ton of jokes in this one, but because it's aping Fargo, it's  actually not too bad an episode
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PostNouveau posted:I think the new one is supposed to be a parody of A Serious Man, but I don't know that movie so I can't say how closely it follows it. Also, it does another opening with the Fargo text too. The whole episode feels a lot more like a Fargo than anything else. I say this as a huge fan of A Serious Man. Who the gently caress was asking for a parody of A Serious Man? This would be like if they did an actual Barton Fink episode. And yeah, none of the plot points you mention are from A Serious Man. It sounds like it's just No Country For Old Men + Fargo.
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Skrill.exe posted:I say this as a huge fan of A Serious Man. Who the gently caress was asking for a parody of A Serious Man? This would be like if they did an actual Barton Fink episode. It's titled "A Serious Flanders" but it seemed all Fargo to me
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Oh yeah wow Something I find charming in retrospect about the whole Simpsons concept is how nobody involved in making it has the slightest idea what goes on in a nuclear power plant. Also drat, June Foray 
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Nov 10, 2021 19:58
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AHH F/UGH posted:That would definitely make sense. It's kind of strange how those shorts had the more "perfected" look of the more compact and fluid animation design, like you can see how much more three dimensional they move when he's doing the animation. I don't know why Klasky-Csupo had such a had time with reproducing that other than just lack of talent. It's almost like they took a step back when KC did the first and second seasons. They talk too about visual ideas they had that didn't pan exactly, picture frames changing every scene and kind of abstract modern things happening with doorways and the home's layout. It's experimental, and as the show gets older these choices are abandoned in favor of safer ones. KC had the best colors, and were the people who animated bart's backward talking head.
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Nov 10, 2021 20:23
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Fat Tony is a good character but dunno why he seems to pop up in so many new episodes. (Checks Simpsons wiki) apparently he was replaced by Fit-Fat Tony and I’m closing that browser tab now.
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Nov 10, 2021 20:34
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PostNouveau posted:It's titled "A Serious Flanders" but it seemed all Fargo to me Why bother invoking A Serious Man at all? FarD'oh! is right there.
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Nov 10, 2021 20:38
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Skrill.exe posted:I say this as a huge fan of A Serious Man. Who the gently caress was asking for a parody of A Serious Man? This would be like if they did an actual Barton Fink episode. ...I was saying Barton Fink...
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Nov 10, 2021 20:42
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Skrill.exe posted:Why bother invoking A Serious Man at all? FarD'oh! is right there. this really is just modern simpsons in a nutshell.
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Nov 10, 2021 20:44
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FunkyAl posted:They talk too about visual ideas they had that didn't pan exactly, picture frames changing every scene and kind of abstract modern things happening with doorways and the home's layout. It's experimental, and as the show gets older these choices are abandoned in favor of safer ones. KC had the best colors, and were the people who animated bart's backward talking head. I dunno if I agree with that last part. Roman did an amazing job in so many cases...  
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Skrill.exe posted:Why bother invoking A Serious Man at all? FarD'oh! is right there. sexpig by night posted:this really is just modern simpsons in a nutshell.
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Hakkesshu posted:Season 10 is the last season I will watch. Like yeah, it's not particularly strong (The Alec Baldwin/Kim Basinger episode is the first time I recall thinking celebrity appearances felt super forced) That episode is the dividing line between "good" and "terrible" for me. Also the first time I rolled my eyes at "*Homer gasp* GUEST STAR NAME!". But season 10 did end with Behind the Laughter, so
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Why the gently caress is this a screenshot of a video and not, you know, the actual video? Like wtf, Al 
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They look so weird. Like Simpsons fanart.
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Been said before but Disney's insistence on marrying it's brands to the Simpsons via these shorts is so vile. Just complete and utter pop culture fealty.
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Maybe we’ll at least get The Simpsons in Kingdom Hearts 4 out of it.
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Put Homer in Kingdom Hearts but still have him refer to the others as "Moofy and Monald Muck"
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Hakkesshu posted:Season 10 is the last season I will watch. Like yeah, it's not particularly strong (The Alec Baldwin/Kim Basinger episode is the first time I recall thinking celebrity appearances felt super forced), but the heart of the show is still there, and it's also the last season to feature Phil Hartman. Seems like a natural stopping point to me. They should not have continued after his death. "Kim Bassinger, the actress who played Holli Would in the hit movie Cool World!?" "Hi, pencil dick!"
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Sourdough Sam posted:Been said before but Disney's insistence on marrying it's brands to the Simpsons via these shorts is so vile. Just complete and utter pop culture fealty. This is the only acceptable mash up of Simpsons with another brand: https://youtu.be/AszF8aT6wGI
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Hyrax Attack! posted:This is the only acceptable mash up of Simpsons with another brand: https://youtu.be/AszF8aT6wGI Ahem  :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYBFSOXu-_0
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Hahaha oh right those are good too
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We're just going to forget about the Critic? This stinks!
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AHH F/UGH posted:I dunno if I agree with that last part. Roman did an amazing job in so many cases... They're not bad, but they never quite hit this level    Even in less-dramatic stuff, I like what they evoke with the pink and greys 
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Wow, look at that horrible lack of detail. It's like you gave a kindergartener a piece of paper and some watercolor paints. THIS is how you do real high quality animation: https://youtu.be/fLFpTLEnrqU Just look at how much detail you can see in the background. And those shadows, so realistic!
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Nov 11, 2021 20:13
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Nov 11, 2021 21:06
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Boy look at Homer suck on that hot dog like it’s a cock. Great TV.
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I like how we were like "the Simpsons isn't the kind of show to do naked butt jokes" and then posted the Ullman bath short
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Another Bill posted:
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Does modern Simpsons even experiment with different art styles for one-off moments anymore, or is it always that sanitized on-model-at-all-times clean look now? Those screenshots are great. Just throwing this here, too. I can never not giggle when he says “LOOK AT ME.”  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDpb8Sas46Y
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