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Blinkz0rz posted:it's sincerely surprising to me that folks itt think that anything can be built, released, marketed, and sold without being involved in meetings The big meetings devolve into vision bullshit and circular conjecturing and speculation, especially as more management and director types are pulled in. May just be that every org I’ve been in has been dysfunctional but big meetings have seemed to serve more as pageantry and signaling ones importance rather than for decision making and deep work necessary to make complex things. For my projects to succeed, I need to organize the pieces I’m responsible for more directly with the people that matter and most of that has been through long form living doc collaboration and a series of separate 1:1s with people that get into the weeds. Bigger meetings near kick-off and release/increments can give the less useful types a feeling of skin in the game and good will towards the project but that’s as much as needed, more involvement beyond that yields diminishing returns and usually becomes actively harmful to the success of a hard thing being accomplished. I’ll eat the status meetings between the two and make sure engineers on my projects are protected and have open calendars that are clear. And if a meeting doesn’t have a clear agenda with a decision that needs to be made, I unilaterally cancel it or remove as many people from it as I can biceps crimes fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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prom candy posted:I would rather do a full days worth of coding (5 hours) than attend a one hour meeting. Your manager likely feels the same if they came up from a development background. gay_crimes posted:And if a meeting doesn’t have a clear agenda with a decision that needs to be made, I unilaterally cancel it or remove as many people from it as I can This is the thing to do if you can do it.
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# ? Oct 28, 2021 15:48 |
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ultrafilter posted:Some meetings are necessary, but they don't have to be as plentiful or as badly run as most meetings are. This is extremely true and ultimately this gay_crimes posted:And if a meeting doesn’t have a clear agenda with a decision that needs to be made, I unilaterally cancel it or remove as many people from it as I can Is the right approach to dealing with it. If you don't have ownership of the meeting, you should feel empowered to decline something if the invite list is too large and there's no clear direction.
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# ? Oct 28, 2021 18:03 |
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I don't mind meetings if what's being discussed is relevant to everyone in the meeting. If you have an hour long meeting where 15 minutes are relevant to one group of people, 15 minutes are relevant to another group of people, 15 minutes are relevant to another group of people, and 15 minutes are relevant to another group of people, oops, that's actually four different meetings and should be scheduled as such.
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# ? Oct 28, 2021 18:15 |
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prom candy posted:I would rather do a full days worth of coding (5 hours) than attend a one hour meeting. *2 hours and it depends on the meeting vs the current thing i'm working on. i will happily sit quietly in a meeting to have a break from trying to resize an annoying div it whatever
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 01:57 |
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we have a weekly status meeting with government customers but there was a tendency for a few of us to get offtrack with long technical discussions with the government architecture guys, so we set up a separate design meeting with just the few of us to chat about technical stuff as needed. over time all of the original people except me left while all the other people from the status meeting all started coming for some reason. none of these other people either understand the platform well enough or care to get into any sort of technical discussion. so now we just have a meeting where every week a dozen people dial in to verify that there is nothing on the agenda except maybe asking for updates on items from the status meeting two days ago. i have not spoken a single word in this meeting in probably six months. none of the people running or participating in this meeting were here when it was started so none of them even know why it exists. we're just gonna keep doing it until the end of time for no reason other than there being a recurring item on the calendar
Fellatio del Toro fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Blinkz0rz posted:it's sincerely surprising to me that folks itt think that anything can be built, released, marketed, and sold without being involved in meetings I think every team needs a ticket jockey or 2 just to crank through things. It's just that you also need a couple of folk who are interested in what you're doing and why you're doing it as well. Otherwise you just crank out what product want and product are dipshits.
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 11:33 |
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Fellatio del Toro posted:over time all of the original people except me left while all the other people from the status meeting all started coming for some reason. I think there's a whole other type of person that tries to get into as many meetings as they can because they either don't want to do their actual work, or they don't have any actual work.
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Fellatio del Toro posted:we have a weekly status meeting with government customers but there was a tendency for a few of us to get offtrack with long technical discussions with the government architecture guys, so we set up a separate design meeting with just the few of us to chat about technical stuff as needed. over time all of the original people except me left while all the other people from the status meeting all started coming for some reason. none of these other people either understand the platform well enough or care to get into any sort of technical discussion. so now we just have a meeting where every week a dozen people dial in to verify that there is nothing on the agenda except maybe asking for updates on items from the status meeting two days ago. i have not spoken a single word in this meeting in probably six months. none of the people running or participating in this meeting were here when it was started so none of them even know why it exists. we're just gonna keep doing it until the end of time for no reason other than there being a recurring item on the calendar If you're the one who created it, you could probably just cancel it? Or stop showing up?
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# ? Oct 29, 2021 22:22 |
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Comedy option, every week schedule the meeting one minute shorter...
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# ? Oct 30, 2021 15:14 |
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Fellatio del Toro posted:we have a weekly status meeting with government customers but there was a tendency for a few of us to get offtrack with long technical discussions with the government architecture guys, so we set up a separate design meeting with just the few of us to chat about technical stuff as needed. over time all of the original people except me left while all the other people from the status meeting all started coming for some reason. none of these other people either understand the platform well enough or care to get into any sort of technical discussion. so now we just have a meeting where every week a dozen people dial in to verify that there is nothing on the agenda except maybe asking for updates on items from the status meeting two days ago. i have not spoken a single word in this meeting in probably six months. none of the people running or participating in this meeting were here when it was started so none of them even know why it exists. we're just gonna keep doing it until the end of time for no reason other than there being a recurring item on the calendar
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In a healthy team, improving the quality of some meetings makes other meetings unnecessary and therefore subject to elimination.
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 23:37 |
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This is the greatest thing and I will accept no disagreement. https://twitter.com/gregisenberg/status/1456588823287275528
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 02:10 |
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Am I being pranked?
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 02:17 |
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lifg posted:This is the greatest thing and I will accept no disagreement. IDGI, it looks to be every bit as stupid and incoherent as anything other pro-NFT thing I've ever read, not seeing what's special about this one in particular?
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 02:53 |
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lifg posted:This is the greatest thing and I will accept no disagreement. This is the dumbest thing I've read since trump got banned on Twitter
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lifg posted:This is the greatest thing and I will accept no disagreement. if this poo poo becomes commonplace it might be the last push i need to go live off the grid, gently caress me
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Doing take home coding assignments for a specific job: bad Doing hours of ~= quests =~ in order to improve my social coding score so I can think about applying for a job: lit
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prom candy posted:Doing take home coding assignments for a specific job: bad pfft https://mobile.twitter.com/kerckhove_ts/status/1455157451192422406
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brand engager posted:Am I being pranked? https://twitter.com/gregisenberg/status/1456590282124840963
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 15:00 |
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What's a good, collaborative, web-based JS editor? Just something simple I can use to help coach a friend through data structures/algos. I'd like it to be able to actually run the code so we can do some asserts and such as well. I've been using Codeshare, which is good, except it can't actually run code.
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Harriet Carker posted:What's a good, collaborative, web-based JS editor? Just something simple I can use to help coach a friend through data structures/algos. I'd like it to be able to actually run the code so we can do some asserts and such as well. I've been using Codeshare, which is good, except it can't actually run code. It's not necessarily web-based, but VS Code can use Live Share. You could also run VS Code inside GitPod and share the workspace. I think GitPod requires a GitHub or GitLab repo based on a quickstart template so it would be pretty easy to setup. I'm pretty impressed with GitPod.
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one of the best coders I worked with was a huge factorio junkie... prom candy fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Nov 6, 2021 |
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prom candy posted:one of the best coders I worked with was a huge factorio junkie... Factorio, the SRE simulator? The game where you can play Sandstorm on a number of light entities with enough commitment to write some kind of transpiler to do it? That Factorio?
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# ? Nov 6, 2021 18:08 |
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Wait I quoted the wrong post
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Vulture Culture posted:I also was 50/50 on whether or not this was a troll post until this Ken M.-grade reply you really overestimate cryptobros
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marumaru posted:you really overestimate cryptobros
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CompNFTIA
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Vulture Culture posted:I also was 50/50 on whether or not this was a troll post until this Ken M.-grade reply What if I put on the chain that Greg Isenberg is a big idiot who should never be listened to? Hypothetically.
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What do you think the blockchain smells like haha do you think it gets embarrassed when it poos out a new block
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Doom Mathematic posted:What if I put on the chain that Greg Isenberg is a big idiot who should never be listened to? Hypothetically. His smart contract will forever be tainted with such a note until consensus is broken, and he and his 7 friends who's twitters are just blockchain word salad might care.
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Doom Mathematic posted:What if I put on the chain that Greg Isenberg is a big idiot who should never be listened to? Hypothetically. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ2msARQsKU
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Vulture Culture posted:When all you have is a gun, everything looks like a foot.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 16:37 |
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So does anyone actually use Monday.com?
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lifg posted:So does anyone actually use Monday.com? The only people I know who say they have are non-technical types, if that anecdote adds anything. Unfortunately I still get Jira.
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This guy is just a factory of really stupid poo poo: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg/status/1458061300374949888 Ah yes, the legendary MVP without any P at all.
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Well yeah, look at the Twitter bio: Web3 is an immediate red flag imo
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:This guy is just a factory of really stupid poo poo: This pretty much worked for Star Citizen.
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The fact that you really can make money doing this kind of thing is proof that capitalism is a failed ideology.
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Protocol7 posted:Well yeah, look at the Twitter bio: I had to Google what this was, and now I’m dumber because my brain instinctively killed the cells that absorbed the information. For gently caress’s sake.
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