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Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



mobby_6kl posted:

Someone in another thread looked into this and IIRC basically this requires just some driver attention monitoring features so like if it thinks you've passed out drunk it'll just come to a stop automatically by itself. So basically what cars with self-driving features already do.

gently caress it, make everyone breathalyzer to use a car, it’s a privilege after all

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EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
I'm excited to have a new piece of hastily designed garbage in my car so that when it breaks every 6 months I have to pay hundreds of dollars to get it replaced so I can have the privilege of using the car I already overpaid for

The principle is cool and good, the implementation is inevitably going to be less than worthless

EvenWorseOpinions fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Nov 11, 2021

PBCrunch
Jun 17, 2002

Lawrence Phillips Always #1 to Me
An enormous aftermarket will spring up to delete and defeat these devices, just like diesel truck emissions equipment.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

just make delete/defeat equivalent to an actual DUI, ez-pz

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


If they can't disable them, people will just make devices designed to blow air into the things. Then if that catches on they'll change it so it has to detect CO2 or whatever and someone will make a new machine that uses cartridges to fake that too. Like apparently it's fine to sell those things that clamp onto Tesla steering wheels to let you go hands-free full-time. Unless you go full John Deere and lock everything down I can't imagine anything will stop idiots from driving their beloved cars.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


PBCrunch posted:

An enormous aftermarket will spring up to delete and defeat these devices, just like diesel truck emissions equipment.

Do we then get some idiot with a show on Discovery getting fined and crying about it rather than learn to not sell stuff to let poo poo people be shitter people?

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Ror posted:

If they can't disable them, people will just make devices designed to blow air into the things. Then if that catches on they'll change it so it has to detect CO2 or whatever and someone will make a new machine that uses cartridges to fake that too. Like apparently it's fine to sell those things that clamp onto Tesla steering wheels to let you go hands-free full-time. Unless you go full John Deere and lock everything down I can't imagine anything will stop idiots from driving their beloved cars.

You're gonna see people blowing up balloons in the bar parking lot for later.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

gently caress it, make everyone breathalyzer to use a car, it’s a privilege after all

That's treating a symptom, and badly at that.

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



A bartender I was talking to had a breathalyzer installed in his car and said things like using mouthwash before he left the house would set it off, doesn't sound ideal for your average person vs someone who's lost the privilege to drive and is earning it back. Also, having lived with some sorority girls for a year in college of course they had a handheld breathalyzer for fun, but you had to wait 30 mins after drinking to get an accurate reading or else it would read high from the alcohol still in your mouth. If the mandated tech works like that, you could be a 200lb guy who drinks one beer and is completely fine to drive but if you just finished it a min ago you're going to stuck for 30 mins before you can leave.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

PBCrunch posted:

An enormous aftermarket will spring up to delete and defeat these devices, just like diesel truck emissions equipment.

Heh, EPA put the kibosh on that for real. Still doable, a lot harder. As in sourcing from another country.

Also, someone posts their deleted bro truck for sale, undercover agents inspect acting as buyers. Guess what happens next.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

gently caress it, make everyone breathalyzer to use a car, it’s a privilege after all

Ahhhh yes try and put in a dumb badly thought out quick fix that has all manner of ways to beat it to try and fix a far more complex issue.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009

The bill says "passive" which makes me suspect it's not going to be a blow test but rather how you're actually driving. In which case it'll also help against sleepy drivers for that matter and that has already existed in cars for 5.. 6? quite a while actually. My toyota has it from 2018.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

dissss posted:

Cool so if I leave my phone on my desk when I go out for a lunchtime walk then I get run over by a Tesla?

Correct. If you aren't generating marketing data at that moment you aren't actually a person.

adaz posted:

The bill says "passive" which makes me suspect it's not going to be a blow test but rather how you're actually driving. In which case it'll also help against sleepy drivers for that matter and that has already existed in cars for 5.. 6? quite a while actually. My toyota has it from 2018.

Or it just uses a sniffer to pick up airborne alcohol from your breath, so it'll trip if you try to drive a drunk friend home.

Edit: replies claiming to quote the bill say you were right and I was wrong. I think.

Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Nov 11, 2021

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

adaz posted:

The bill says "passive" which makes me suspect it's not going to be a blow test but rather how you're actually driving. In which case it'll also help against sleepy drivers for that matter and that has already existed in cars for 5.. 6? quite a while actually. My toyota has it from 2018.

In the late winter/early spring only the drunks are driving straight on the roads around here. Anyone sober is all over the drat road dodging potholes. Gonna be fun to see how this works out.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Shai-Hulud posted:

You could also totally put bus stops at the bar and at Jimbos farm. And also one at Jon-Bobs farm. And make the bus only drive to those stops when requested by say an app or a phone call. You could even do some wild thing were it would be cheaper the more hilbilly farmers are taking the bus so if you are willing to wait half an hour to "buspool" with Mary-Jolene from two farms over it would be cheaper to get to the bar to drink away you troubles.

Or, you know, shoot for the moon and make the bus free. Nothing incentivises people more than free!

Alas, its all socialism.
The issue is that there are a lot of these Jimbos all over the loving place and you'll have to run the busses like every 15 minutes 24/7 at ridiculous expense, otherwise they'll still drive themselves

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



I think I see worse driving from people on their phones now than from obviously drunk people, so just add the technology that already exists that makes sure your eyes are looking at the road.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Colostomy Bag posted:

Heh, EPA put the kibosh on that for real. Still doable, a lot harder. As in sourcing from another country.

Also, someone posts their deleted bro truck for sale, undercover agents inspect acting as buyers. Guess what happens next.

Yeah, basically if you do a DPF delete, you have to assume you will own the car for the rest of its life or will re-apply the DPF if you sell it.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

MetaJew posted:

I drove back to the dealer and spoke to their service manager. He took some photos and claims he was going to check his security cameras to try and figure out when it happened. My assumption is that whoever washed the car had a stone in their wash mitt, but I have no idea.

Anyway, they claim they'll call me back to arrange dropping of the car for some sort of repair and a loaner car.

They haven't called me back, nor returned my call from when I left voicemail today.

Do I escalate to the dealership general manager or Mazda Corporate?

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Ahhhh yes try and put in a dumb badly thought out quick fix that has all manner of ways to beat it to try and fix a far more complex issue.

But enough about catalytic converters.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.
They could do a reaction time test, but that would stop old people from driving ....

Hmmm ...

(Note: I'm old)

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Imagined posted:

A little original content. Saw this family with incredible taste on my walk yesterday.



And a Jeep too

https://jalopnik.com/here-are-five-perfect-cars-to-buy-during-the-used-car-s-1848042614

Skinnymansbeerbelly
Apr 1, 2010

mobby_6kl posted:

The issue is that there are a lot of these Jimbos all over the loving place and you'll have to run the busses like every 15 minutes 24/7 at ridiculous expense, otherwise they'll still drive themselves

This. They trialed this a few years back in my extremely unwalkable town, where not having a car is a death sentence for your social life. 6 months of a full-size bus driving around the neighborhood; I thought it was great because I could get a cheap lift home from the Local or the mechanic, but I saw one other person use it, ever.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Skinnymansbeerbelly posted:

This. They trialed this a few years back in my extremely unwalkable town, where not having a car is a death sentence for your social life. 6 months of a full-size bus driving around the neighborhood; I thought it was great because I could get a cheap lift home from the Local or the mechanic, but I saw one other person use it, ever.

Yeah, cause busses are for poor people!

(I should really figure out the busses near me, moved somewhere walkable, but not going to want to do that too much once it snows and driving is so easy.)

PBCrunch
Jun 17, 2002

Lawrence Phillips Always #1 to Me
Here in America a bus will definitely keep you poor. When I was in college there was a fellow non-traditional (old) student who worked and lived off-campus. He took the bus to school. He spent 3+ hours per day waiting for or riding on city buses. That is a ton of time spent on transit.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

PBCrunch posted:

Here in America a bus will definitely keep you poor. When I was in college there was a fellow non-traditional (old) student who worked and lived off-campus. He took the bus to school. He spent 3+ hours per day waiting for or riding on city buses. That is a ton of time spent on transit.

i had a summer internship once where i blew up my car's motor, and spent all summer swapping in a new one. once it was running, the commute was 45 minutes.

however, for the first 6 weeks of the internship where i was still wrenching, i had to take public transit. that was a bus to light rail to heavy rail to on foot for the last mile. it took 3.5 hours to get to work, and 4.5 hours to get home from work because the bus between the light rail and home stopped running before i got there so i walked. i spent more time commuting than at the office

and that was in an area that had pretty good public transit. it sucks

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
I got laid off at the start of the pandemic and was interviewing for some jobs. One company I interviewed with was clear across town, about 18 miles one way all on one highway.

Traffic in the morning is tolerable if the office culture is fine with you arriving around 10am, but Austin rush hour in the evening is pretty terrible from what feels like 3PM to 7 PM.

There's a park and ride station that's maybe a 3 minute drive from my house, but when I looked up the commute to take a bus and arrive at the office by 10AM, it would be a minimum 2 hour ride in the morning, and a 2 hr 40 min ride home in the evening.

By car It's something like a 25-45 min drive one way, depending on traffic.

I didn't get an offer there, and I didn't really want to work there-- but if I had to, going into the office would've made me absolutely miserable.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Saw this today

coupedeville
Jan 1, 2012

MY ANACONDA DOM'T WANT NONE UNLESS U GOT CUM SON!

Scratch Monkey posted:

Saw this today



equal contender for either thread imo

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

I feel like they should get credit for successfully getting the boat to the lake.

MrLogan
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about Derek Carr's stolen MVP awards, those dastardly refs, and, oh yeah, having the absolute worst fucking gimmick in The Football Funhouse.
My preference would be to make cars into a Faraday cage that can't get texts before worrying about drunk drivers.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
If it was on proper 4WD running gear I'd be saying wrong thread, but it looks like there's no pumpkin under the front. Right thread.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

4wd isn't strictly necessary ime

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

ryanrs posted:

4wd isn't strictly necessary ime

I know, but if you're going to pick up your Camaro and put it on big wheels like that with clearly some other chassis underneath it, why wouldn't you make it a proper 4x4?

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Memento posted:

I know, but if you're going to pick up your Camaro and put it on big wheels like that with clearly some other chassis underneath it, why wouldn't you make it a proper 4x4?

It could use a big tube bumper, andI bet they don't even have hydraulic handbrakes.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Scratch Monkey posted:

Saw this today



i think this is what is called a "camero"

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


StormDrain posted:

It could use a big tube bumper, andI bet they don't even have hydraulic handbrakes.

I feel like you may be referencing a particular thread here. An awesome one.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

MetaJew posted:

I got laid off at the start of the pandemic and was interviewing for some jobs. One company I interviewed with was clear across town, about 18 miles one way all on one highway.

Traffic in the morning is tolerable if the office culture is fine with you arriving around 10am, but Austin rush hour in the evening is pretty terrible from what feels like 3PM to 7 PM.

There's a park and ride station that's maybe a 3 minute drive from my house, but when I looked up the commute to take a bus and arrive at the office by 10AM, it would be a minimum 2 hour ride in the morning, and a 2 hr 40 min ride home in the evening.

By car It's something like a 25-45 min drive one way, depending on traffic.

I didn't get an offer there, and I didn't really want to work there-- but if I had to, going into the office would've made me absolutely miserable.

My commute right now is dead on 18 miles, also in Austin... work is dangerously close to the parking lot we call 35. :shepicide:

The nearest bus stop is several miles away, which would just take me to the park and ride... and since I have to be at work early (6:30am), there's no way for me to actually get there on time with public transit. :sigh: The earliest CapMetro could get me there is nearly 8am.

If I finish around 3-3:30, the drive home isn't bad - I live off of 183, so usually just hit the usual slowdown where 183 and Mopac meet. If I leave much later, it's 45-60 minutes of stop and go. It takes me 20-25 minutes to get there in the morning, depending how angry my right foot is; sometimes over an hour to get home. :sigh:

Traffic here, as long as you avoid 35, is still better than DFW, though.....

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

I thought this was exaggerating, but looking at other angles, it's pretty close

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buttcrackmenace
Nov 14, 2007

see its right there in the manual where it says
Grimey Drawer

Scratch Monkey posted:

Saw this today



no 4WD, shity tires

i hope their local boat ramp is free of moss

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