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Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

MarcusSA posted:

I realize it is the most expensive but IMO it is also the best. I have previously gone through all the other ones before just biting the bullet and getting the Apple TV and couldn't be happier.

It just works and it is snappy. Also for the most part the apps won't be nearly as buggy as they can be on some of the other platforms.

You can get a refurbished one direct from Apple for $129 and if you don't like it they will just take it back no questions asked.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/...oduct-FHY93LL/A
Is the new non-hosed-up apple tv remote sold separately if you find an old one on sale?

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

The United States posted:

Is the new non-hosed-up apple tv remote sold separately?

Yes you can buy it for the 4k ATV.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/...d2d39253658efc2

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-Siri-R...274462031&psc=1

Kinda crazy that the remote is like 50% of the cost of a new unit lol

Zeron
Oct 23, 2010
Yeah I've gone through a bunch of streaming devices and the AppleTV (1st gen 4k I think) is the only one I've tried that Just Works. No crashes, no errors, no lag, you just get in and watch. Don't have anything else in the Apple environment but it's not that much trouble.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Get the Apple TV.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



The only negative for the Apple TV is they still won’t let it bitstream audio. Not really an issue for streaming services, but limits you in Plex a little. Not something that super bothers me, and why I’ve owned gens 2 thru the first gen 4K.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

Discovery+ is the 90 Day Fiancé service and it kicks rear end

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001

WhyteRyce posted:

Discovery+ is the 90 Day Fiancé House Hunters service and it kicks rear end

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Zeron posted:

Yeah I've gone through a bunch of streaming devices and the AppleTV (1st gen 4k I think) is the only one I've tried that Just Works. No crashes, no errors, no lag, you just get in and watch. Don't have anything else in the Apple environment but it's not that much trouble.

Interesting as this has been my experiences with Rokus. Granted it's not as slick as an Apple TV, but you plug it in and it just works with an ultra simple grid set of icons.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

BonoMan posted:

Interesting as this has been my experiences with Rokus. Granted it's not as slick as an Apple TV, but you plug it in and it just works with an ultra simple grid set of icons.

In my experience Roku is definitely a solid option too. I definitely don’t care for their hardware/UI/general consistency etc compared to the Apple TV but they’re great boxes. The fact that you can get them for so cheap and they can attach to the back of the tv and whatnot is real nice. They’re fun little devices. They definitely know their place in the market and seem to give you exactly what they offer.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
Apple TV is great but that remote is just such a massive caveat. Love my shield toblerone

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

TheScott2K posted:

Apple TV is great but that remote is just such a massive caveat. Love my shield toblerone

The new remote is amazing, they finally got it right after all the weirdness of the previous ones. The old was fine for me but I understand many of the complaints. New one is a perfect design imo.

thelizzerd
Nov 12, 2021
Rokus are the best option if you have an older TV that doesn't have 4K and you just want to watch stuff on it. My parents have a 28 inch TV from about 2007 and there's no point to really put something more expensive than the Roku on it. The price difference isn't as much as it used to be, but I still don't think it's worth it for an older TV or a TV you're not using as much.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Roku future is really looking iffy with the crap they are doing.

We are all familiar with the Youtube TV / Youtube drama, but now it looks like it may be leaking over to Prime.

https://www.reviewgeek.com/102031/oh-no-roku-might-lose-amazon-prime-video-too/

thelizzerd
Nov 12, 2021

bull3964 posted:

Roku future is really looking iffy with the crap they are doing.

We are all familiar with the Youtube TV / Youtube drama, but now it looks like it may be leaking over to Prime.

https://www.reviewgeek.com/102031/oh-no-roku-might-lose-amazon-prime-video-too/

I hadn't heard of that. Thanks for the link. I might have to gift my parents something else to replace their Roku's if it goes into effect and retroactively effects the current rokus and not just new ones being produced.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

thelizzerd posted:

Rokus are the best option if you have an older TV that doesn't have 4K and you just want to watch stuff on it.

The discussion kicked off because someone was looking for something without ads, and these days it's only the Apple TV unless you're ok with doing nerd poo poo.

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

Pillbug
I have ATV4K's in my living room/master bedroom, Nvidia Shield in my office, and a Roku Premiere Plus something or other in the spare bedroom at my Ma's house and the ATV4K is the snappiest by far and the Roku is the slowest. The Nvidia is a great option for Apple haters but is expensive at $199, especially when you can get refurb ATV4K's for $129.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/...fb066a64012549e

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Remember that if you have a Roku and download the channel before it is removed from the channel store, (as of now) you get to keep using that service.

I still use YoutubeTV even though it is not available for new customers and you can even access it in regular YouTube.

I am honestly surprised that there have not been “secret” channels set up to access those services that get blocked.

Island Nation
Jun 20, 2006
Trust No One

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Remember that if you have a Roku and download the channel before it is removed from the channel store, (as of now) you get to keep using that service.

I still use YoutubeTV even though it is not available for new customers and you can even access it in regular YouTube.

I am honestly surprised that there have not been “secret” channels set up to access those services that get blocked.
Didn't Roku stop the private code system since it was used mostly for porn?

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Island Nation posted:

Didn't Roku stop the private code system since it was used mostly for porn?

I did not know that. I had never used the codes for that. My favorite code channel was “Nick Rewind” which was just a channel of random Nick shows from the 90s.

Douche4Sale
May 8, 2003

...and then God said, "Let there be douche!"

Related to this discussion a bit: if I have movies purchased on Vudu, Microsoft, Amazon, and Google is there a good way to keep track of them? I have movies anywhere, but there are some that don't participate and it's impossible to remember which one to check for total recall for instance.

How do people keep track? Is there some sort of program or other software that can link them all together, kind of how some of those video game trackers do?

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Douche4Sale posted:

Related to this discussion a bit: if I have movies purchased on Vudu, Microsoft, Amazon, and Google is there a good way to keep track of them? I have movies anywhere, but there are some that don't participate and it's impossible to remember which one to check for total recall for instance.

How do people keep track? Is there some sort of program or other software that can link them all together, kind of how some of those video game trackers do?

https://moviesanywhere.com is what you want.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

They mentioned they already have that but that it doesn't keep track of everything.

I have the same issue. About 20% of my library doesn't participate. It'd be nice to have a full aggregator.

Obviously it's licensing reasons so the aggregator doesn't even have to play it within itself like MA. It could just open the respective app!

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!

FCKGW posted:

Renovation Realities is great. Just a nice, voiceover-free 22 minutes of homeowners bumbling their way through renovation projects and loving up constantly.

I had to stop watching. Felt like every episode had a 50/50 chance of the couple ending in divorce.

Still pretty funny though.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001
I’ve been watching a lot more YouTube lately, and the amount of ads is starting to get to me. I looked into signing up for YouTube Premium to remove the ads, but I literally lol’ed when I saw it’s $15/month. gently caress THAT

Has anyone done the trick where you VPN to Argentina and sign up there to only pay about $1.50 a month? Is that something that’s safe to do on my main account, or should I make a separate account specifically for that? Also, I’ve seen some places say that you need to enter an Argentinian billing address to make it work. Obviously that won’t fly with my American credit cards, but would it work if I just bought a Google Play gift card and used that to pay? Or would I specifically have to buy an Argentinian Google gift card?

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


BonoMan posted:

They mentioned they already have that but that it doesn't keep track of everything.

I have the same issue. About 20% of my library doesn't participate. It'd be nice to have a full aggregator.

Obviously it's licensing reasons so the aggregator doesn't even have to play it within itself like MA. It could just open the respective app!

Yeah I suck at reading. My apologies.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

OldSenileGuy posted:

I’ve been watching a lot more YouTube lately, and the amount of ads is starting to get to me. I looked into signing up for YouTube Premium to remove the ads, but I literally lol’ed when I saw it’s $15/month. gently caress THAT

Has anyone done the trick where you VPN to Argentina and sign up there to only pay about $1.50 a month? Is that something that’s safe to do on my main account, or should I make a separate account specifically for that? Also, I’ve seen some places say that you need to enter an Argentinian billing address to make it work. Obviously that won’t fly with my American credit cards, but would it work if I just bought a Google Play gift card and used that to pay? Or would I specifically have to buy an Argentinian Google gift card?

I just re-upped my Argentina vpn account today. I bought a $40 google play gift card, it it would not use that for payment. I just used a prepaid Mastercard and it worked fine. It’a 119 Arg a month which I think is like $1.40. I am using my main account, worse I feel they can do is just disable premium. I didn’t want to re-do all my subs and stuff. I’ve been using premium for probably 5 months.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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OldSenileGuy posted:

I’ve been watching a lot more YouTube lately, and the amount of ads is starting to get to me. I looked into signing up for YouTube Premium to remove the ads, but I literally lol’ed when I saw it’s $15/month. gently caress THAT


If you have an Android TV setup, look into the SmartTubeNext app(https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTubeNext). Skips ads, beginning and ending intros, even in-video promotions. It’s not 100% perfect but it’s damned impressive.

Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Nov 13, 2021

Douche4Sale
May 8, 2003

...and then God said, "Let there be douche!"

BonoMan posted:

They mentioned they already have that but that it doesn't keep track of everything.

I have the same issue. About 20% of my library doesn't participate. It'd be nice to have a full aggregator.

Obviously it's licensing reasons so the aggregator doesn't even have to play it within itself like MA. It could just open the respective app!

Thanks, yeah this. I can't believe some sort of library tool hasn't been made for that. Oh well, I guess it's not too much effort to check. I've been trying to buy them non movies anywhere stuff all in Vudu to minimize it at least.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

OldSenileGuy posted:

I’ve been watching a lot more YouTube lately, and the amount of ads is starting to get to me. I looked into signing up for YouTube Premium to remove the ads, but I literally lol’ed when I saw it’s $15/month. gently caress THAT

Has anyone done the trick where you VPN to Argentina and sign up there to only pay about $1.50 a month? Is that something that’s safe to do on my main account, or should I make a separate account specifically for that? Also, I’ve seen some places say that you need to enter an Argentinian billing address to make it work. Obviously that won’t fly with my American credit cards, but would it work if I just bought a Google Play gift card and used that to pay? Or would I specifically have to buy an Argentinian Google gift card?

What I'm hearing is, no matter how mad it makes me I should never cancel the YouTube Music account I have that started as a Google Play Music account

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Unless the poster wasn't in the US, YouTube premium which includes YouTube music is $11.99 /month, not $15.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

bull3964 posted:

Unless the poster wasn't in the US, YouTube premium which includes YouTube music is $11.99 /month, not $15.

Still more expensive than what I'm paying, nominally just for the music

stevewm
May 10, 2005
Youtube Premium is $15 now?!

I am still grandfathered in at the $9 rate. It is often free as most months my Google Opinion Rewards payouts cover it.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


stevewm posted:

Youtube Premium is $15 now?!

It isn't.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


The family one is 15 but not the individual.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The family one is $17.99. There is no $15 price point so I don't know where that came from. Student is $6.99.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

bull3964 posted:

The family one is $17.99. There is no $15 price point so I don't know where that came from. Student is $6.99.

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back
I am YouTube premium family for life (well as long as there is decent content). I couldn’t imagine going back and I have 3 adult kids which ApplePay me $5 each monthly for it.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.



You have some sort of grandfathered access then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=premium?family

quote:

Family • 1-month free trial • Then $17.99/month • Add up to 5 family members (ages 13+) in your household.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that nobody is paying the same amount of money as anyone else.

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TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

That's what I'm paying for my grandfathered GPM family plan that I'll apparently hang on to until I die

Looks like it's $6.99 if you're a student (fine), $11.99 for an individual (gently caress!) or $17.99 for a family plan (fine if there's more than 2 of you but still, drat)

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