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Why's it all monkeys? Why do they all look like dogshit?
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abigserve posted:Why's it all monkeys? Why do they all look like dogshit? There's no reason to use good art for this. You want something recognisable and minimum-effort to hawk your fake nerd pogs to the most credulous idiots.
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Nov 12, 2021 09:02
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abigserve posted:Why's it all monkeys? Why do they all look like dogshit? You know how scam emails are written badly in order to filter out people who are less likely to fall for the scam? Same thing.
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Nov 12, 2021 09:21
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abigserve posted:Why's it all monkeys? Why do they all look like dogshit? Because the AI-generated waifu NFTs didn't make it out of beta.
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Nov 12, 2021 12:37
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Tunicate posted:Because the AI-generated waifu NFTs didn't make it out of beta. actually yeah why isn't that a thing. loli poo poo must do gang-busters. but wait no then you can't show it off to your friends & the world.
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Nov 12, 2021 12:41
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Apparently they decided that their collectible waifu technology was better suited to a smartphone app. https://twitter.com/PreferredNetJP/status/1369469604532080641?s=20
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Nov 12, 2021 12:51
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abigserve posted:Why's it all monkeys? Why do they all look like dogshit? In order of importance: 1. It makes churning out 10,000 images easy, quick, and cheap. Couple hundred bucks on fiverr cheap. 2. The variations stand out, but not too much. That lets anyone tell at a glance that turdmonkey #402 is different than #8402 and spot desirable rare feature XYZ. But the general lovely quality also hides where the random features meet with the base image so it doesn't end up looking like an old cartoon where the dynamic stuff sticks out like a sore thumb. That keeps you from needing to touch up the images and keeps the cost down. And 3: It indicates that the value is in something other than the art itself. If the NFTs were valuable because of the art there would be a hard limit on the value - the cost to commission something similar (which, as I posted above is about 2.5¢-7¢ per in bulk) - but since that's clearly not the case there's no real limit. The exception here are NFTs where you can't readily commission a replacement like the Beeple ones.
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Nov 12, 2021 14:13
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Liquid Communism posted:Literally everything there was done by Gorillaz 20+ years ago.
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Nov 12, 2021 14:16
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drk posted:Seemingly: https://boredapeyachtclub.com/#/terms 99% of images displayed on Twitter including in profiles are violating copyright, trademark, or both. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Nov 12, 2021 15:40
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Jose Valasquez posted:I’d point 1 is true why do you need point 2 and 3 and why are they subject to “your continued compliance with these Terms”
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Nov 12, 2021 16:31
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kw0134 posted:Yup it's legally incoherent and there are questions as to whether any further resale would bind the subsequent owners to those specific terms. And of course having such a written agreement undermines the claim that the NFT per se has any legal meaning. A deed or a contract is legally self-sufficient (within certain parameters). The NFT is a legal third wheel, but everyone here knew that already. The first lawsuit involving NFTs is gonna be wild. Transcripts of lawyers struggling to explain it to judges. Be almost as good as that wolf porn legal case.
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Nov 12, 2021 17:02
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Mega Comrade posted:The first lawsuit involving NFTs is gonna be wild. Transcripts of lawyers struggling to explain it to judges. Be almost as good as that wolf porn legal case. The transcripts are going to be Star-Trek-esque technobabble interspersed with "Explain to the jury" and "Can you repeat that" about every 3 or 4 lines, before a Freeman-On-The-Land claim is made at the last minute. It'll fuckin' rule.
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Nov 12, 2021 17:05
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funeral home DJ posted:The transcripts are going to be Star-Trek-esque technobabble interspersed with "Explain to the jury" and "Can you repeat that" about every 3 or 4 lines, before a Freeman-On-The-Land claim is made at the last minute. It'll fuckin' rule. Sovereign Citizen tier nonsense is basically built in from the start.
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Nov 12, 2021 17:10
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Jose Valasquez posted:I’d point 1 is true why do you need point 2 and 3 and why are they subject to “your continued compliance with these Terms” This thread has been hollering about Tether's terms of service off and on for, what, four or five years now? None of the terms of service of anything crypto or NFT related actually make any goddamn sense, it's all about posting a bunch of legal-ish word salad that people associate with big legitimate businesses. It's cargo cult lawyering, none of it would hold up under scrutiny but that doesn't matter because it won't come under scrutiny as long as people are making money off of it.
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Nov 12, 2021 17:20
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Nov 12, 2021 18:10
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How would boat club even enforce some of their dumb poo poo, like wouldnt they need spy hardware and software similar to that anti porn fundies try to use and that the MPAA & RIAA want to use. (btw these dont work and was easy to bypass)
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Nov 12, 2021 18:56
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If NFTs are cargo cult art market like you guys insist, how long before they discover ways of "glitching" NFTs like a rare postal stamp printed backwards? Or maybe a certain tulip bulb with a fungal infection?
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Nov 12, 2021 19:07
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It’s funny that people think NFT art things are a new scam, when art is already a major major scam. It’s not the art part that’s the stupid scam, the NFT part is the even stupider scam. They’re spending millions on postits written in ballpoint ink that says “I own Monna Lisa at Loov” when owning the actual piece of art is worth something. If you’re wondering why the art industry exists as it does, the answer is also tax fraud, scams, and money laundering.
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Nov 12, 2021 19:12
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jokes posted:It’s funny that people think NFT art things are a new scam, when art is already a major major scam. Its art but with more bitcoin 
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Nov 12, 2021 19:35
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Like we make jokes about people making things more complicated and stupid by taping bitcoins to it, and NFTs are exactly that situation applied to the art industry. It’s always dumb, but it isn’t newly dumb. It’s just dumber.
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Nov 12, 2021 19:39
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Prurient Squid posted:If NFTs are cargo cult art market like you guys insist, how long before they discover ways of "glitching" NFTs like a rare postal stamp printed backwards? Or maybe a certain tulip bulb with a fungal infection? what does this even mean
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Nov 12, 2021 19:41
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Prurient Squid posted:If NFTs are cargo cult art market like you guys insist, how long before they discover ways of "glitching" NFTs like a rare postal stamp printed backwards? Or maybe a certain tulip bulb with a fungal infection? every lazy lion is uniquely ugly as gently caress
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Nov 12, 2021 19:43
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Some collectors of things think imperfections are more notable and thus worth more. Like a charizard card with an error on it. Since it’s digital, though, they are always 1:1 perfect copies. This should be a good thing but crypto idiots disagree.
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Nov 12, 2021 19:43
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:what does this even mean “Shiny” NFTs. Only a 1 in 10 million chance! Such a good investment!
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Nov 12, 2021 19:43
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jokes posted:Like we make jokes about people making things more complicated and stupid by taping bitcoins to it, and NFTs are exactly that situation applied to the art industry. Which is why I called it a cargo cult art market. They saw the art market and scams and tried to do the same thing. Only they shoehorned crypto in and forgot the art.
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Nov 12, 2021 19:44
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Random Stranger posted:Which is why I called it a cargo cult art market. They saw the art market and scams and tried to do the same thing. Only they shoehorned crypto in and forgot the art. all crypto is just day trading speculation but offered by a more reputable and trustworthy source than stockbrokers, like anonymous online child merchants
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Nov 12, 2021 19:48
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Nov 12, 2021 19:49
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the blockchain is just an infinite chain of people saying “that guy is disgusting and sells child brides and fentanyl. Buy mine instead” and then someone iterated on it, replacing “child brides” with <art or whatever> but keeping the drugs.
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Nov 12, 2021 19:50
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jokes posted:It’s funny that people think NFT art things are a new scam, when art is already a major major scam. One of the major differences is that art is for the rich. They invest in it, they get scammed by it. Are there any ways for poor people to invest in art? And no one on earth thinks that banksy drawings or ancient busts are going to be a form of currency in the post apoc times.
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Nov 12, 2021 19:54
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jokes posted:It’s funny that people think NFT art things are a new scam, when art is already a major major scam. The art industry, stuff that sells for millions on up, is definitely used to evade taxes and for money laundering and the like. Is a Picasso worth 10+ million? I'm not sure... but it's probably worth a decent amount of money even if the nefarious aspect of the art industry was removed. What I'm trying to say is.. art, in human culture, has [subjective] value. People appreciate it for one reason or another and because of its actual scarcity, commands a price point. NFTs... don't even have that. They try to copy a real life scarcity that just doesn't exist in a digital world.
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Nov 12, 2021 19:55
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Don’t look into how much rich people get paid to exhibit their artwork at museums that are subsidized by taxes and entrance fees.
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Nov 12, 2021 19:57
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Strong Sauce posted:NFTs... don't even have that. They try to copy a real life scarcity that just doesn't exist in a digital world. this is why, out of all the nfts, i hate music nfts the most. what I like about digital music is that it isn't scarce! if I find out about some loving obscure band that only released one EP recorded in their garage 10 years ago, odds are I can plug them into bandcamp and pay them for their music, it loving rules! i don't want them minting 10 NFTs and disappearing into the ether or whatever, like their tapes or burned demo cds would have in an age before digital music. and don't loving even say that 'blockchain solves these files from disappearing' art nfts aren't even on chain there's no loving way you're fitting a flac file on there. i'll take bandcamp who's managed to stick around for 13 years instead, thanks
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Nov 12, 2021 20:05
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The best thing about crypto people is that they produce and treasure nothing of real value, they’re also too stupid to even liquidate and carry cash. The worst thing is that some things of value will be lost forever chasing crypto bucks like some music or whatever.
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Nov 12, 2021 20:07
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Prurient Squid posted:If NFTs are cargo cult art market like you guys insist, how long before they discover ways of "glitching" NFTs like a rare postal stamp printed backwards? Or maybe a certain tulip bulb with a fungal infection? The "glitches" are built in from the start in the form of the randomness of the algorithm used to mash together all the images. They put different weights on the different features to make a few that are extremely rare and thus "worth" more. It's like how TY intentionally made some beanie babies with defects, except instead of a half dozen being made with a miscolored leg it is stuff like a gold coloration only happening in three apes out of the 10000.
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Nov 12, 2021 20:14
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happyhippy posted:One of the major differences is that art is for the rich. They invest in it, they get scammed by it. What's the NFT equivalent of digging around the local thrift shops in search of a lost Picasso?
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Nov 12, 2021 20:35
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non fraud related art purchases are for decoration and will never be resold. What do these idiots expect to decorate? their second life bachelor pad? Id like to see a break down of how many NFTs actually resell, even counting wash trades and such it couldn't be a big percentage
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Nov 12, 2021 20:36
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don't the lazy lions and poo poo also come with NFT dollhouses (sold separately) so you can do precisely that e-bling has already been established as a fairly lucrative market entirely independent of crypto poo poo, for people who I assume don't have any IRL friends to show off to but still feel the urge. Like maybe someone out there's trying to flip their Steam skins and Star Citizen spaceships but that's way secondary to the portion of the market who just wants the flashiest most exclusive virtual spaceship A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Nov 12, 2021 |
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Nov 12, 2021 20:39
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Vashro posted:non fraud related art purchases are for decoration and will never be resold. What do these idiots expect to decorate? their second life bachelor pad? Decoration, or to flex hard by having "On loan from the (rich family) collection" on a plaque next to the artwork in the local museum. And, occasionally, it's just to support an artist you think is cool. I remember this news piece on this couple of NYC who weren't really rich, but didn't have any kids and so they had enough extra money to find up-and-coming artists they liked and so they were often the first people to buy art from artists who would later go on to be massive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7LeGgc2Do Apparently there was a documentary about when they finally gave all their art away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTDgowxcVY
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Nov 12, 2021 20:46
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Vashro posted:non fraud related art purchases are for decoration and will never be resold. What do these idiots expect to decorate? their second life bachelor pad? I don't think function enters into half the things people do with money these days.
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Nov 12, 2021 20:50
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Vashro posted:non fraud related art purchases are for decoration and will never be resold. What do these idiots expect to decorate? their second life bachelor pad? Twitter profile pics apparently?
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