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NotJustANumber99 posted:Thanks. Also more to the point, the whole visceral disgust at the idea of doing sex work is something you can get over. Sex work (from posting on onlyfans to outright prostitution) is just a thing a number of my friends and acquaintances do, some because they need an income and others for shits and giggles (the latter have fairly well paid main jobs). Ultimately it's not that different from manual labour that doesn't involve your genitalia and it's something that I'd be ok doing if necessary and would probably prefer over, say, picking onions for 10h/day.
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I think the UK government might want to reread the US constitution before trying to negotiate with individual states. States can only regulate trade within their borders. Interstate/foreign trade regulation is solely the province of the federal government.
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suck my woke dick posted:Also more to the point, the whole visceral disgust at the idea of doing sex work is something you can get over. Sex work (from posting on onlyfans to outright prostitution) is just a thing a number of my friends and acquaintances do, some because they need an income and others for shits and giggles (the latter have fairly well paid main jobs). Ultimately it's not that different from manual labour that doesn't involve your genitalia and it's something that I'd be ok doing if necessary and would probably prefer over, say, picking onions for 10h/day. I find it helpful to think that the majority of the naked people you see online are doing sex work, and it would be much better if they had control over proliferation and use of their images rather than this weird standard where consumption of their product is normal but the production of it is not. Ohtsam posted:I think the UK government might want to reread the US constitution before trying to negotiate with individual states. States can only regulate trade within their borders. Interstate/foreign trade regulation is solely the province of the federal government. The UK has also failed to grasp this concept with the EU as well so don't worry it's quite universal.
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OwlFancier posted:consumption of their product is normal but the production of it is not. Ohtsam posted:I think the UK government might want to reread the US constitution before trying to negotiate with individual states. States can only regulate trade within their borders. Interstate/foreign trade regulation is solely the province of the federal government. I don't think they're going to reread (or read) anything like that.
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The gently caress are we even going to offer silicon valley? Let them mine crypto on all our smart meters? Nfts of the queen? Testing grounds for unethical tech startups tied to the DWP? It's going to be Stilton and Diana plates like crispix says isn't it?
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suck my woke dick posted:Also more to the point, the whole visceral disgust at the idea of doing sex work is something you can get over. Sex work (from posting on onlyfans to outright prostitution) is just a thing a number of my friends and acquaintances do, some because they need an income and others for shits and giggles (the latter have fairly well paid main jobs). Ultimately it's not that different from manual labour that doesn't involve your genitalia and it's something that I'd be ok doing if necessary and would probably prefer over, say, picking onions for 10h/day. Hmmm. Yeah please don't assume its just blanket disgust. I dunno really. It was interesting what twisto said earlier, and I get that our current shite climate shouldn't be used as an example but demanding people do sex work to avoid losing their benefits is an interesting point. Personally I do think it is different from other manual labour jobs that don't involve your genitalia and frankly I think you would fail to argue against that regardless of your personal, lazy, attitude to picking onions. I dunno. I think I agree with Diane Abbott.
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https://www.proag.com/news/2022-california-pork-shortage-is-inevitable-says-local-economist/ Apparently they need pigs. We have lots of pigs. Maybe we can give them our pigs and we can have some oranges.
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Labour have shot ahead in the polls due to Tory sleaze! It's Starmentum! The Conservatives are finished! ...wait, how many years is it to the next election again?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:demanding people do sex work to avoid losing their benefits is an interesting point. OwlFancier posted:that they shouldn't be sanctioning loving anybody. Mebh posted:Apparently they need pigs. We have lots of pigs. Maybe we can give them our pigs and we can have some oranges.
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Guavanaut posted:This pork product contains substances known to the State of California to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity. It's David Cameron's cum. has anyone said David Cumeron yet
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Tony Blair alt posting on reddit posted:I'm over the loving moon man. 
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Jedit posted:Starmer hasn't had better ratings than Corbyn on his best day and at this point I think everyone hates him. At this point I think Starmer hates Starmer. If I was him, I'd be best friends with the bottle at all times.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:But perhaps you can appreciate how your username hasn't totally set my mind at rest?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:UK now trying to get trade deals with individual US states I don't think that works the way they think it works. 
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NotJustANumber99 posted:but demanding people do sex work to avoid losing their benefits is an interesting point. (brothel advertises on job centre Web site under some euphemism; job seeker turns up, realises it's a brothel; sanctioned for turning down work. No idea how common it is, but it's happened)
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But if they can't sanction people for refusing to do sex work because it violates their bodily autonomy, it's a small step to people refusing to do heavy manual labour or other work that wrecks your body and/or organs. God forbid.
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Payndz posted:Labour have shot ahead in the polls due to Tory sleaze! It's Starmentum! The Conservatives are finished!
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CGI Stardust posted:Tories having their current leader be the very very public and recognisable embodiment of the party is an advantage too; if the toxicity of The Boris Government sticks, it can be swiftly overcome by a leadership change and appropriately fawning messaging from the newly-onside press Yes. I can't get over hearing voxpops in 2019 of people in 'red wall' constituencies saying they were voting Tory because Labour had been in power so long that they wanted a change! Some people really do have the memories of goldfish.
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jacksbrat posted:But if they can't sanction people for refusing to do sex work because it violates their bodily autonomy, it's a small step to people refusing to do heavy manual labour or other work that wrecks your body and/or organs. God forbid. I had one face to face interview with UC woman, within 10 minutes she had clearly decided my incredibly disabled son was acting. Red flags went up when she started talking about how he would go on courses designed to get the disabled back into work. I contacted social services worker to “holy poo poo what the gently caress just happened” about 9 seconds after I left the job centre . Two weeks later I find out that in the interim she had been fired. She didn’t put us though for a work capability assessment, and as it turns out deleted all the stuff saying I was his appointee from the system. I had a hard copy anyway so it just all got added back on by new guy. All it takes is one evil oval office, just one.
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learnincurve posted:I had one face to face interview with UC woman, within 10 minutes she had clearly decided my incredibly disabled son was acting. Red flags went up when she started talking about how he would go on courses designed to get the disabled back into work. I contacted social services worker to “holy poo poo what the gently caress just happened” about 9 seconds after I left the job centre . And the govt expect people to trust an all-digital system  when anyone with the right password and a personal agenda can do that.I wonder how 'they' got on to her to fire her instead of giving her a big bonus.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:And the govt expect people to trust an all-digital system Serious answer: She very proudly told me how she had worked in job centres for 38 years. In a job I know for a fact you need 4 GCSEs to do, promotion is automatic, and where you regularly get offered early retirement. Because I used to work for the civil service and would have been her superior in job rank at 19. They knew she was terrible, they have known she was terrible for 38 years BUT unless you openly gently caress up it’s impossible to get fired from the civil service with the contract she would have had. My theory is she got more and more malicious until she crossed some automatic line for number of sanctions in the system that flagged her
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Red Oktober posted:It’s astounding The home office are recruiting for apprenticeships in the new immigration squads right now and the blurb says “must have a robust personality” Same energy as UC.
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Borrovan posted:We actually already do this, FYI That’s always been a case of false advertising and none of those sanctions stick or are enforced. Blurring lines with reports of state sanctioned involuntary sex work damages more than the rep of lovely job centre collaborators
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suck my woke dick posted:It's convenient that it's causing trouble for the Tories now, but the whole idea that government is spending a strictly limited amount of tax money is a problem. gently caress the whole idea of government spending having to be restricted because they're spending ~your tax poonds~. Government should spend at least as much as necessary to fulfil the demands we make of it, and IMO should err far on the side of spending too much when it comes to subsidising low income individuals and infrastructure. Corruption isn't bad because it's wasting ~your tax poonds~, it's bad because it causes officials to make decisions which will bite other people in the rear end. Getting people to invert the way they view tax and government spending is hard, but I think this might be the most significant hump to get over. Of course there are right-lolberts who believe that all taxation is theft, and there are socialists and such, but in between those extremes there's a huge mass of floppy centre-ish people who kind of think that earning/having lots of money is fine, but taxing those rich people to pay for a functioning country is a necessary "evil" (or at least a necessary "thing"). This is probably the majority of people in fact. But when you recast taxation of the rich as taking their money and putting in the money shredder, because that much money pooling in those places is bad for the country in general, that crowbar of necessity goes away. And then you have to convince them of a much more abstract necessity of making the money shredder go brrrr. Same as what you're saying, it's easier to phrase "government should spend responsibly because it's your precious money that you donated to the common cause" and have that land, rather than "government should spend responsibly because it's the right thing to do". And "responsibly" takes on different meanings in those two phrasings - "better do austerity" in the former, "not funneling it to their mates' companies, but otherwise keeping it flowing" in the latter. Sadly we're still at the stage where MMT states "money supply isn't constrained by tax revenue, only by inflation and real stuff" and is invariably met with "BUT INFLATION!!! ZIMBABWEIMAR VUVUZELA!!"
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Total Meatlove posted:That’s always been a case of false advertising and none of those sanctions stick or are enforced. It's worth remembering that not everybody appeals sanctions, either out of fear of the stress or just not seeing the point because they assume its a rubber stamp rather than actually quite reasonable. But yeah, that's a problem with the DWP rather than sex work being legalised
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Red Oktober posted:It’s astounding from my experience in a kind-of adjacent field (NHS admin), (most) records software is (generally) designed around retaining (at least some) paper trail - at least, there are (usually) ways to check who changed or deleted what. i wouldn't be surprised if that evil UC lady was fired partly for tampering with records all that said, there are some major caveats to this. the combined factors of ancient software systems (i know for a fact that a 20-year old patient management system is still in use by several major London hospitals. it's not great.), the information contained within these systems having significant legal weight, and the staff that use these systems too often being surprisingly computer-illiterate can lead to some pretty nasty (and entirely avoidable) situations nurmie fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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Red Oktober posted:It’s astounding The logs are there to gently caress you up if (and only if) you get caught or piss someone else off up the food chain. Z the IVth fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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learnincurve posted:Serious answer: My partner worked there for three years. There's no such system, since that would imply someone in government believed there was such a thing as too many sanctions. My guess is that someone had been building a case against her for a while. That complaint could well have been the thing that tipped the scales. Other guess is that they asked her about thinking a disabled person was faking and she self destructed in the interview.
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The "Physical Society of London" just rolled out a "Cop Has Failed" banner at the Lord Mayor's Parade mid-interview with the beeb and the presenter absolutely poo poo herself.
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