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Heath posted:What the gently caress is this in reference to and do I really want to know I think it refers to the nostalgia critic video about pink floyd's "the wall" which was done as like a musical with a bunch of other youtubers and uh... trent reznor or someone involved as well?? I only know it from the folding ideas video about that video and as I have never listened to pink floyd it is a bit lost on me but oh jesus christ is the nostalgia critic video dreadful on its own merits. This is the folding ideas vid if you want to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rokAtlFGa7Y
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OwlFancier posted:I can not imagine greenwald being a lawyer, I thought he was just a gobshite. Even the really sharp ones are frequently "I was a loving idiot for becoming a lawyer" In other news, TERFs are having a go at Tori Amos 
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OwlFancier posted:I only know it from the folding ideas video about that video and as I have never listened to pink floyd it is a bit lost on me but oh jesus christ is the nostalgia critic video dreadful on its own merits. Yeah the short of it is that NC just took the content at face value and didn't bother doing any kind of actual analysis of it. He just recreated it using his own persona with really bad parody lyrics. Also it had a bizarre furry animation thing during the last scene for... Reasons? Anyway I second the recommendation of the Folding Ideas video breaking it down. It's a bit of a wild ride that can't be done justice in any kind of text summary. People misunderstand Pink Floyd's (or any artist, really) songs all the time, but this dude is a self-proclaimed film critic and he just takes it to levels you can never even imagine. Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 18:58 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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Nov 13, 2021 18:54
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OwlFancier posted:I think it refers to the nostalgia critic video about pink floyd's "the wall" which was done as like a musical with a bunch of other youtubers and uh... trent reznor or someone involved as well?? trent reznor was NOT involved in this lol. you're probably thinking of corey taylor, the dude from slipknot, who actually was for some inexplicable reason (his son is supposedly a fan of channel awesome and is also in that video, but that's no excuse)
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Nov 13, 2021 18:56
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:I have known some incredibly stupid lawyers, even in California where the bar is considered one of the toughest in the country. Imagine "learning" after you graduate school. Fuckin woke bullshit imo. Who I was at 20 is who I shall remain.
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Nov 13, 2021 19:04
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Skwirl posted:"I love art, I just don't think music is art" Is a loving amazing take. Reading it felt like I was in a Matrix esque film shoot with a bazilion camera capturing my facial distortions of my reaction so they could fully spin around my face and capture everything. It'd be hilarious if the dude went full Plato and argued that music is mind control and should be banned due to the wiley way it manipulates emotions rather than helping one find Truth like real art
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Nov 13, 2021 19:12
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:I have known some incredibly stupid lawyers, even in California where the bar is considered one of the toughest in the country. Tori Amos being a trans ally is good, but also one of the least surprising things ever. The stories TERFs must tell themselves where they didn't think Tori Amos was pro trans are insane.
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Nov 13, 2021 19:15
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nurmie posted:trent reznor was NOT involved in this lol. you're probably thinking of corey taylor, the dude from slipknot, who actually was for some inexplicable reason (his son is supposedly a fan of channel awesome and is also in that video, but that's no excuse) Corey doesn't give a poo poo, he's in the Eric Roberts school of "I'll do any old poo poo if it means I get to have fun". (e.g. the time he was on Doctor Who)
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Nov 13, 2021 20:00
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TinTower posted:Corey doesn't give a poo poo, he's in the Eric Roberts school of "I'll do any old poo poo if it means I get paid". (e.g. everything hes been involved in after the slipknot s/t)
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Nov 13, 2021 20:02
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Brawnfire posted:Occasionally I Google. Like tonight. God I can never keep up Just keep falling on my face
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Nov 13, 2021 20:03
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How dare a WOMAN not be afraid of penises like I am What is wrong with her??!??!?!?!?! Why is she being nice to people I hate 😫
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Skwirl posted:Tori Amos being a trans ally is good, but also one of the least surprising things ever. The stories TERFs must tell themselves where they didn't think Tori Amos was pro trans are insane.
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I'm glad she's speaking up after being silent all these years
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Nov 13, 2021 20:19
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:I'm not surprised but I am loving relieved. Like Linehan or Rowling or Robert Webb, sure, it's not great to have new prominent people twisting our existence into sone kind of LGBTQanon narrative, but Tori would have been one that actually crushed part of my soul I am so so relieved she isn't. I'm not anywhere near the firing-line of the terfs but it'd still break my heart for Tori to be one of the bad ones. Transphobia is so stupid and so so mean  stop hurting people who already have a shitload of hard stuff to deal with.
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Pookah posted:I am so so relieved she isn't. I'm not anywhere near the firing-line of the terfs but it'd still break my heart for Tori to be one of the bad ones. Transphobia is so stupid and so so mean I'm just making up ideas that famous people might have, but I think Robert Webb's trans issue is a genuine belief that young boys exhibiting feminine traits are being pressured to transition to being a girl/woman, which I also wouldn't want to happen, but I also know doesn't happen. I suspect/hope Robert Webb will have a "come to Jesus" moment where he realizes how wrong he's been about the whole thing.
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Picnic Princess posted:How dare a WOMAN not be afraid of penises like I am  Even fake goth Cathy Brennan has largely been ostracized for saying "hey, is it really feminist ti take money from the heritage foundation and post on kiwi farms?" Skwirl posted:I'm just making up ideas that famous people might have, but I think Robert Webb's trans issue is a genuine belief that young boys exhibiting feminine traits are being pressured to transition to being a girl/woman, which I also wouldn't want to happen, but I also know doesn't happen. I suspect/hope Robert Webb will have a "come to Jesus" moment where he realizes how wrong he's been about the whole thing. So gently caress him. Even if he comes around, he's gonna have to do a lot of work to build trust and make amends, but why do that when you can dig in your heels and have cocaine canapes with Piers Morgan and Ricky Gervais? Ellie Crabcakes has a new favorite as of 20:44 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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Skwirl posted:I'm just making up ideas that famous people might have, but I think Robert Webb's trans issue is a genuine belief that young boys exhibiting feminine traits are being pressured to transition to being a girl/woman, which I also wouldn't want to happen, but I also know doesn't happen. I suspect/hope Robert Webb will have a "come to Jesus" moment where he realizes how wrong he's been about the whole thing. If he thought for even a minute, he'd ask "who???" Who is in a position to convince young boys to transition? He himself is a grown cis man who has exhibited what he would describe as "feminine" attributes, but he's not trans, he knows he isn't. I know I amn't either. I do not adhere to the generally accepted roles for my gender but I'm not in the least uncomfortable with my gender assignment, I do not have the itch in the head so many trans people describe when they talk about feeling 'wrong' for so much of their lives. I am not in the least qualified to judge or adjudicate on. I know I don't know enough about the subject to express an informed opinion on it, so why can't he? He could just shut up and let people who know what they are actually talking about discuss the issue, or barge in and explain complex and highly nuanced issues to experts in those topics as though they were noobs.
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Hasn't Robert Webb been an outspoken Tory since long before Brits set their sights on trans people? I remember watching Peepshow and people reminding me he was a massive POS.
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Nov 13, 2021 20:56
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Feliday Melody posted:Hasn't Robert Webb been an outspoken Tory since long before Brits set their sights on trans people? Yeah, David Mitchell is the nice one of the pair. Webb's a total rear end in a top hat.
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nurmie posted:trent reznor was NOT involved in this lol. you're probably thinking of corey taylor, the dude from slipknot, who actually was for some inexplicable reason (his son is supposedly a fan of channel awesome and is also in that video, but that's no excuse) It's kind of a running theme that I cannot remember any celebrity, last week I got brian cox (terrible UK melt and part time astrophysicist) confused with brian may from queen on the basis they they both have phds and are called brian. OwlFancier has a new favorite as of 21:05 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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Not familiar with the term “melt”. From context I’m getting “prick with an annoying voice and way of speaking that makes interesting subject matter unwatchable.” Is that close?
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I think it is a fairly general pejorative technically but usually I and others use it to describe terminal political centrism, like always trying to position yourself into the worst middle of the road take that is also somehow aggressively garbage, and seeing the fact that everyone thinks you're an idiot for it as vindication that you must be right. More generally it means like, weak willed, unwilling to take a stand, "going soft" as it would suggest. I'm sure you know how that works in politics. Like pete buttgieg, brian cox is pete buttgieg. OwlFancier has a new favorite as of 21:18 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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Heh, thanks. I mostly just wanted to complain about him hosting too many things I’ve otherwise wanted to watch, but good to know.
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Feliday Melody posted:Hasn't Robert Webb been an outspoken Tory since long before Brits set their sights on trans people? Although, I guess he had his own Linehan "NO ONE IS SUPPOSED TO LIKE THIS CHARACTER SO IT'S OKAY TO USE SLURS!!!1!" moment
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Nov 13, 2021 21:22
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TinTower posted:Corey doesn't give a poo poo, he's in the Eric Roberts school of "I'll do any old poo poo if it means I get to have fun". (e.g. the time he was on Doctor Who) He's still doing Doctor Who with Big Finish, he's great!
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Brawnfire posted:I'm glad she's speaking up after being silent all these years  Ellie Trashcakes posted:I'm not surprised but I am loving relieved. Like Linehan or Rowling or Robert Webb, sure, it's not great to have new prominent people twisting our existence into sone kind of LGBTQanon narrative, but Tori would have been one that actually crushed part of my soul I too am now intensely aware of the overwhelming psychic damage I'd be taking if Tori had ended up the other way. 
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OwlFancier posted:It's kind of a running theme that I cannot remember any celebrity, last week I got brian cox (terrible UK melt and part time astrophysicist) confused with brian may from queen on the basis they they both have phds and are called brian. I only recognize one person named Brian Cox, and he pistol whips people who use the word "shenanigans" too much 
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Pookah posted:Transphobia is so stupid and so so mean Feliday Melody posted:Hasn't Robert Webb been an outspoken Tory since long before Brits set their sights on trans people?
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Zero_Grade posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxS1H7oqrSI but instead of Daryl it's irl Webb plw don't tell me the Daryl actor is also a tory
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Zero_Grade posted:Yeah, this. Just...stop being assholes, people! If I, as a middle class cis white dude in the STEM world, can be accepting of other different perspectives, backgrounds, and experiences, anyone can. This really isn't hard! At the risk of making this somewhat a personal story: I got exposed to so many fascinating wildly different backstories in grad school, it was genuinely fascinating. When I was in student leadership, I really did try my best to be available to everyone, listen to complaints from any person/group, and try to accommodate to make their lives easier. I would think it's not hard to make the slightest of effort but maybe I'm wrong according to *gestures at the state of the world* People love to feel like they're on a crusade and it turns out this is much easier if the people you have decided to crusade against have very little ability to stop you.
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Skwirl posted:Tori Amos being a trans ally is good, but also one of the least surprising things ever. The stories TERFs must tell themselves where they didn't think Tori Amos was pro trans are insane. I could have seen Amos going TERF only because she always seemed had a sort of "woo" attitude towards femininity. A lot of people who attach some sort of ineffable sacredness to gender turn TERF. I'm glad she didn't because now I don't have to disown my copy of Boys for Pele which remains an awesome album.
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Feliday Melody posted:I saw a twitter meme about SA taking a generation of dysfunctional boys and turning them into prosperous women. Yeah what the gently caress is up with that. It's all the more bizarre when I can't get an actual read on their politics. Like, I'll dig a little further down and find out the person with the anime femboy nazi pfp is a trans girl and she'll post some clearly leftist sentiments, but everything else is just an endless wall of ironyposting so many layers deep it's completely inscrutable. And it's never just one person, it's a handful of people posting like this all day along with their own injokes, occasionally touching on the idea of being utterly blackpilled. I've had pretty much this exact dynamic repeat itself in a handful of niche discords and I just don't have the willingness to try to unpack any of it
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Kit Walker posted:Yeah what the gently caress is up with that. It's all the more bizarre when I can't get an actual read on their politics. Like, I'll dig a little further down and find out the person with the anime femboy nazi pfp is a trans girl and she'll post some clearly leftist sentiments, but everything else is just an endless wall of ironyposting so many layers deep it's completely inscrutable. And it's never just one person, it's a handful of people posting like this all day along with their own injokes, occasionally touching on the idea of being utterly blackpilled. I've had pretty much this exact dynamic repeat itself in a handful of niche discords and I just don't have the willingness to try to unpack any of it i was in a discord that had mostly people that were 25~30, and a couple youngins. someone who was like, 18 or something, didn't understand why we all thought pepes were for nazis, because they considered it just a teenager thing and normal. so idk, maybe it's a young person ironyposting thing??
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Kit Walker posted:Yeah what the gently caress is up with that. It's all the more bizarre when I can't get an actual read on their politics. Like, I'll dig a little further down and find out the person with the anime femboy nazi pfp is a trans girl and she'll post some clearly leftist sentiments, but everything else is just an endless wall of ironyposting so many layers deep it's completely inscrutable. And it's never just one person, it's a handful of people posting like this all day along with their own injokes, occasionally touching on the idea of being utterly blackpilled. I've had pretty much this exact dynamic repeat itself in a handful of niche discords and I just don't have the willingness to try to unpack any of it
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