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It's reasonable to think the ending is being rushed. Deku mastered all his quirks offscreen. Shigaraki's "months long" upgrade was stopped literally the next arc after it started. It's not even the second year of school in a series with "Academia" in the title.
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Also the argument that no editor would push Horikoshi to end fast because MHA is super popular Demon Slayer got pushed to end fast and was doing pretty great too.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Also the argument that no editor would push Horikoshi to end fast because MHA is super popular Demon Slayer got pushed to end fast and was doing pretty great too. 
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demon slayer being pushed is an unsubstantiated rumor.
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Also, even then, I believe the push began before the anime came out since the manga only had pretty modest success til then, but then when the anime blew up, the final arc actually got drawn out a bit to eke out some more sales while it was the big thing.
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Didn't Demon Slayer get rushed because the author had to take care of sick family?
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What gets me is that one of the things that drew me to early MHA is how well Horikoshi balanced progressing the plot with having it happening at a brisk pace. I'm not getting that sense anymore, either during the Liberation Raid arc nor during the current one. Aurora posted:demon slayer being pushed is an unsubstantiated rumor. IMO it's obvious if you read the manga. I went into Kimetsu no Yaiba having known absolutely nothing about it other than that it exploded in sales out of nowhere. On the final arc I was like "... they skipped over multiple arcs to compress all this stuff into the final arc, after having a consistent pace for the rest of the manga up to this point. Was this rushed?"
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it's "rushed" because of wanting to be able to take care of family issues, not anything on shonen jump or editors. there was no push to end it or a sudden desire to drag it out
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Aurora posted:demon slayer being pushed is an unsubstantiated rumor. Every time people go "oh the editor is making them do this" is unsubstantiated rumor, derived from largely bullshit stories about Toriyama and his editor.
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In my defense it's perhaps easier to want to believe than to admit an author you liked has just plain been dropping the ball
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I figured this was set up to resolve in the third year of high school, what with the whole academia thing. Timeskips would have been fine in that instance. I think the series was strongest within the setting of, well, academia. My first impression of this being rushed was the Tartarus escape, when it happened in like 6 panels. If Oda had written that we'd be on like level 4 of 7 atm. Here's hoping One Piece eventually sees an end.
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If Oda was writing it also would still not even be the second year.
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christmas boots posted:If Oda was writing it also would still not even be the second year. On the other hand the fight choreography wouldn't be garbage so it evens out.
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I reiterate my desire to see Horikoshi combine his obvious artistical talent with someone who can actually write who can take the load off him having to invent a plot on the fly, every week, for 52.25 weeks a year.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I reiterate my desire to see Horikoshi combine his obvious artistical talent with someone who can actually write who can take the load off him having to invent a plot on the fly, every week, for 52.25 weeks a year. This seems to mostly work for Dr. Stone. Find an author with Horikoshi's love for large muscular women and we have the potential for something great.
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I rather like Horikoshi’s writing myself, the latest stuff being rushed doesn’t make the earlier stuff bad, or how well he ultimately handled Bakugo and Endeavour.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I rather like Horikoshi’s writing myself, the latest stuff being rushed doesn’t make the earlier stuff bad, or how well he ultimately handled Bakugo and Endeavour. Yeah, this mini-arc is pretty weak, but the overall manga has had a lot of good writing. The Stain arc comes to mind, because that fight? That is absolute textbook shonen fight as philosophy debate. One thing, though, is that the weekly schedule is an absolute nightmare to begin with, and it's much worse if you don't have a plan, or if, as is more likely the case here, your plan goes a bit off track, because you don't have the time to properly revise, so at best you go through a flailing period to get things back in place for the old plan, and at worst you completely nose dive. I think some of it is probably changing editors, too. It's not that the new guy likely forced Horikoshi to go with a bad plan, but a good editor is invaluable in assessing plotlines, spotting potential problems before they come up, and giving advice on how to keep things in line. Meanwhile, an editor who's a worse fit will probably encourage weaker ideas, either on his own or just nodding when the author suggests something that won't work as well for the manga.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I rather like Horikoshi’s writing myself, the latest stuff being rushed doesn’t make the earlier stuff bad, or how well he ultimately handled Bakugo and Endeavour. While this is true loving up the ending harms the series. I can deal with one arc not being great but seeing these chapters that could've been fantastic instead of just being well drawn sucks. You'd think a shonen jump manga would not make the mistake of suddenly introducing someone with a bullshit power from offscreen to job against your badly thought out final boss but learning from other series is bad, apparently.
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Aurubin posted:This seems to mostly work for Dr. Stone. Find an author with Horikoshi's love for large muscular women and we have the potential for something great. That was the Red Hood author.
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IMO the worst part about the manga lately is that there really hasn’t been any good places for the anime to use “You Say Run” in any of the fights
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This is an extremely valid point, I don't even think they've used Jet Set Run for anything substantial yet. I do wanna hear what sound they use for Fa Jin though because One for All already has a nice crunch to it.
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You say Run/Jet set Run are great backing tracks as long as it’s something good being displayed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9WAaZeW90o&t=3s
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If you can really withstand me button mashing at 100% of my power, then I'll have to go beyond that and force you to surrender!
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I've always been fond of this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-jDJcoP0fE Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Man it is genuinely impressive how drat good that looks for a PS3 game.
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ImpAtom posted:Man it is genuinely impressive how drat good that looks for a PS3 game. (horrific screen tearing notwithstanding)
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Arist posted:(horrific screen tearing notwithstanding) I said for a PS3 game!
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Gating the final boss behind DLC was bullshit, but I had a lot of fun with Asura's Wrath, it clearly had a great deal of love put behind it.
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how did star even know this would happen, she would have to have been aware of the quirk mental scape and know that she'd be able to 'physically' rip those metaphysical elements apart
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Futaba Anzu posted:how did star even know this would happen, she would have to have been aware of the quirk mental scape and know that she'd be able to 'physically' rip those metaphysical elements apart Her quirk is already vaguely defined metaphysical magic bullshit anyway so the answer is probably "don't worry about it". If I really had to guess it would be that the original intent was to have Star actually arrive in Japan and get filled in on the situation by All Might before this fight occurred.
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Futaba Anzu posted:how did star even know this would happen, she would have to have been aware of the quirk mental scape and know that she'd be able to 'physically' rip those metaphysical elements apart I imagine Star was meant to fit in after Deku learns about his quirks and spends time with her either for protection or training. I genuinely think we're speedrunning these characters that Horikoshi was always planning on introducing but we're just getting 1% of them instead of the full arc. Everything wrong with Star ceases to be an issue if she'd simply been introduced with time to breath. An overseas arc in the one country All for one is unable to get to because theres one hero he's too afraid to face etc etc. You get more back story for Star so the emotional payoff to that scene is much higher and her knowing about the quirkscape and that they could potentially be destroyed makes far far far more sense because Deku would have told her.
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Futaba Anzu posted:how did star even know this would happen, she would have to have been aware of the quirk mental scape and know that she'd be able to 'physically' rip those metaphysical elements apart I don't think she knew about quirkspace, I think she was just intending to poison pill her own quirk to try and destroy his. Which is vague and undefined, but hey, that's New Order! 
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My dumb theory works for Lady Nagant too. Imagine she was a full story instead of a handful of issues. Not necessarily an Arc on her own, but certainly a B story for one where we get to explore what the hero society is and what lengths they will go to to maintain their power.
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Is this whole game just QTEs?
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Mymla posted:Is this whole game just QTEs? Technically, no. Functionally? Pretty much.
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It's a weird mixture of QTEs, on rails shooting, standard action combat and long story cutscenes. It's a little like ZOE2 in that respect, where it just jumps between setpieces and is hard to pin down structurally. It's total nonsense, the kind of game that has a lot of lore baked into the design work but doesn't really explain any of it. The boss battles are shonen as hell though.
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https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/my-hero-academia-chapter-333/chapter/23565?action=read https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1010475 I still think this entire affair is pretty silly.
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oh jay posted:https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/my-hero-academia-chapter-333/chapter/23565?action=read
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