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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Just reading the comments on an article in the torygraph. I would say a good percent are fake though. Chinese or Russian bot networks or what not, just set up to stir up poo poo.
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I am not entirely convinced that a significant portion of the UK population are not robots programmed to stir up poo poo, though.
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Nov 14, 2021 01:17
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willingly reading Torygraph comments is a level of masochism not even the subbiest Fetlife user could aspire to
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Nov 14, 2021 01:23
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Julio Cruz posted:willingly reading Torygraph comments is a level of masochism not even the subbiest Fetlife user could aspire to An attempt to explore outside the bubble. 'Drive by' sniper commenting on right wing rags (never read the replies) is a little hobby when I'm a bit bored with the housework. “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Sun Tzu
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Nov 14, 2021 01:44
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Yes but sun tzu never had the internet and also never fought anything that weaponized stupidity. If he did he would probably have been really good at hearts of iron and had extremely advanced opinions about serbian history.
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Nov 14, 2021 01:46
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I live by the rule of "don't touch the poop" Scrolling through the replies occasionally to various right wing folks on twitter is about as far as I go because crikey, people are nuts and universally convinced their echo chamber is the one true echo chamber. I say as I post in my own echo chamber.
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Nov 14, 2021 01:53
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I just assume the worst in people and have the benefit of not being surprised when it turns out
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Nov 14, 2021 01:57
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Imagine what the world would be like with ultrawoke Johnson and Sunak being a communist though. And lol, imagine the broken brain that actually thinks that to be the case.OwlFancier posted:Yes but sun tzu never had the internet and also never fought anything that weaponized stupidity.
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Nov 14, 2021 01:58
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fuctifino posted:He looks so graceful and refined
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Nov 14, 2021 02:07
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With trying to know the enemy, is the Telegraph comments section actually representative of tekegraph readers/tory voters, though? I figure it would be skewed in a number of ways, toward various kinds of obnoxious blowhard with high confidence at they know everything. You know, the kind of deeply broken human being who is motivated to post opinions about politics on the internet.
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https://twitter.com/peterjukes/status/1459645120106668035quote:Arcuri gave her diaries to the veteran journalist John Ware in 2019 after he made an ITV documentary on her relationship with Johnson. quote:Potentially more damaging are excerpts that allege Johnson bragged about ignoring advice from his staff who urged him not to help Arcuri promote her tech company Innotech.
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Nov 14, 2021 02:15
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https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1459674311405490180?s=19 The BBC deserves to die.
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Nov 14, 2021 02:56
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Wow, I wonder why John Ware didn’t release this incredibly damning information on Boris Johnson in 2019?
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TACD posted:Looks like he was morphing from Uncle Fester into Cousin Itt and got stuck partway More like just going to a court appearance for being caught at a fighting dog pit.
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Nov 14, 2021 05:12
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What the hell is going down with Rupert Murdoch? He told Boris to destroy the BBC!?quote:Boris Johnson's sister has claimed that Rupert Murdoch told him to 'get rid of the BBC' during a visit to the Prime Minister's country house. Rachel Johnson claimed the media mogul 'dandled' Mr Johnson's son Wilfred on his knee at Chequers as he made the case for scrapping the licence fee-funded broadcaster.
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Grouchio posted:What the hell is going down with Rupert Murdoch? He told Boris to destroy the BBC!? I know seems weirdly out of character for Rupes?
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Nov 14, 2021 09:09
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I find the BBC going after LGBT people really baffling. Like, I thought that battle was won. We like gay people now. I would have thought it would make more sense to weaponise them against scroungers, immigrants and lefties.
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Nov 14, 2021 09:40
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namesake posted:Maybe but we're both demanding to hold state power and the political will to rearrange society as we wish and your vision to inspire the masses to support of you and give you that authority is tweaking the tax code. It's dorky and incredibly limited given the tools you'd need to implement it. MMT has nothing to do with the tax code. It's a framework for understanding that currency-issuing governments aren't constrained by a lack of money, that government spending isn't funded by taxation, that money doesn't "come from" the private sector being all wealth-createy, and that government deficits aren't especially bad, but surpluses are because the government's surplus is the economy's lack of money (by definition). This applies to any political system, from neoliberalism through to mild jam socialism, so long as it uses government-issued money. For the last several decades, claiming the opposite of the above has been used by all governments to justify why we can't have nice things. So understanding how it actually works seems quite valuable in convincing people that better things are, in fact, possible. And on your point about the rich not deserving their wealth, the MMT framing of the purpose of tax is a lot closer to that than the current version, as I mentioned upthread: None of this liberal "well regrettably we must take a (not too big) portion of your wealth to barely fund some shoestring services" - you tax the rich to destroy their money, because it's damaging to society to leave it with them.
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The Perfect Element posted:I find the BBC going after LGBT people really baffling. Like, I thought that battle was won. We like gay people now. Its just the T thats the issue.
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Nov 14, 2021 10:07
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happyhippy posted:I would say a good percent are fake though. In general the aim of the bot networks is to wind up the rival country having as incompetent a leadership as possible. I would think they were quite happy with the current state of affairs. Can anyone give me a quick primer on the Reform Party stuff? I've seen people start talking about it in the thread but haven't come across them anywhere else yet.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Its just the T thats the issue. I think it's naive to think they'd stop there
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Bug Squash posted:Can anyone give me a quick primer on the Reform Party stuff? I've seen people start talking about it in the thread but haven't come across them anywhere else yet.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I think it's naive to think they'd stop there Particularly as they're already pivoting to attack the B.
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Nov 14, 2021 10:41
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https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1459812319760900096?s=20 How does a 93? year old with servants to do everything for her sprain her back? https://twitter.com/AVMikhailova/status/1459650263795605515 This seems illegal as gently caress so of course nothing will happen.
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Nov 14, 2021 10:57
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Nov 14, 2021 10:58
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Lungboy posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1459812319760900096?s=20 She's been having a grand old time on Tinder since Phil died.
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The Perfect Element posted:I find the BBC going after LGBT people really baffling. Like, I thought that battle was won. We like gay people now. Look at it this way, liking gay people was a fad five years ago and now that the novelty has worn off people are trying to get back to the status quo of hating gay people. But you can't just jump in with hating gay people so they're just using fear of Trans people as the crowbar to dislodge solidarity and build support a bit like how when everyone hated Nazis so the smart ones just pivoted to blaming Muslims for all the worlds ills rather than Jews.
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Nov 14, 2021 11:11
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sebzilla posted:She's been having a grand old time on Tinder since Phil died. Pronouns: We
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The Perfect Element posted:I find the BBC going after LGBT people really baffling. Like, I thought that battle was won. We like gay people now. The UK's a rentier state, so whenever we get too tolerant of trans people, the old money steps in to protect strict male primogeniture. https://twitter.com/femme_thoughts/status/1458479790068047878?s=21
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/status/1459674311405490180?s=19 God, just reprehensible. They can't get away with this.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Look at it this way, liking gay people was a fad five years ago and now that the novelty has worn off people are trying to get back to the status quo of hating gay people. But you can't just jump in with hating gay people so they're just using fear of Trans people as the crowbar to dislodge solidarity and build support a bit like how when everyone hated Nazis so the smart ones just pivoted to blaming Muslims for all the worlds ills rather than Jews. Exactly. It's an incredibly tiny step to pivot from "Men in dress want to watch your little girls in the changing room" to "Men in dresses want to watch your little boys in the changing room" (they will lose the "in dresses" part once they're sure it's acceptable to just target gay people outright again).
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Nov 14, 2021 11:23
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The BBC's head of news has told black staff to get used to hearing news they don't like
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sebzilla posted:She's been having a grand old time on Tinder since Phil died. That reminds me of an old Frankie Boyle joke that i won't repeat as it was rather haunting. 
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Look the BBC has a duty to be impartial and fully explore all important issues affecting the whole nation, and so its coverage will cover the full range of opinions and views across the entirety of the dinner parties the senior editors go to
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Nov 14, 2021 11:34
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Re Forbes case. Just read the article and it mentions April Ashley. I'd forgotten about her case but as I was 10 at the time I do remember now hearing her name but being young not really understanding what it was about.
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I think if Murdoch made a suggestion to me while “dandling” my child on his knee I’d take it as a blood-chilling threat.
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Nov 14, 2021 11:55
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Lungboy posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1459812319760900096?s=20 She's 95. Sometimes I sneeze funny and can't move for a day. At her age it could literally kill her.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I think it's naive to think they'd stop there Perhaps you're right, but that article seems keen to suggest the divide is largely between wise older terfy lesbians and the woke young idiots that don't even know how journalism works. But I guess they'll be cut adrift when they've served their purpose.
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Nov 14, 2021 11:59
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Lungboy posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1459812319760900096?s=20 I'm a good five decades younger and I can pull a muscle rolling over in bed. I imagine at 90 that simply breathing in too deeply would dislocate a lung. Not t hat I believe the excuse. Prince Charles looks like he is nearly in tears at the Cenotaph as he stands in for her.
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