|
sassassin posted:A betting company slogan is not sound advice for anyone to live by, especially addicts. I thought the tone of my post made it clear that a compulsive gambler is not the best judge of when they're having fun gambling but apparently not
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2021 20:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 13:29 |
|
|
To be clear *puts sensible hat on* having a bet on the football can be fun, but it can also be and frequently is not fun. Don't think you'd find many posters in TRP who'd argue that the relationship between football and the gambling industry in this country is healthy but unfortunately it doesn't look like it'll be changing any time soon. If you feel like betting is becoming a problem for you the gambling forum has some handy resources and info. This is probably a slight overreaction to a relatively innocuous discussion but I just want to make sure we take care of our posting pals. I used to work in insolvency, I've seen first hand the sort of terrible situations that gambling can put people in if they're not careful (which the entire industry is set up to encourage you not to be!) and I'd hate to think it could happen to anyone in here. I'm not your dad, I'm not going to tell you not to post about it or not do it. Just be careful everyone *sensible hat off* pooshited lol
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2021 21:14
|
|
|
I used to bet on football then tried fantasy football instead and got bored after a couple of weeks and haven't bet on foot all since. Might work for someone else
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2021 22:12
|
|
|
i won like £500 with the third accumulator i placed, then decided to stop as i assume it'd be all downhill after that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2021 22:30
|
|
|
I think statistically you’re in the top 0.001% of gamblers if you do that and walked away.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2021 22:37
|
|
the sex ghost posted:Remember everyone when the fun stops stop mans knows whats up
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 15:56
|
|
|
ive been a professional gambler for literally 15 years everyone put your knickers back on
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 15:57
|
|
|
im not a sports betting professional but i have friends who are and its possible to profit. its multi-billion dollar industry, you dont have to beat everyone, just some of them. not that i want to encourage anyone to try and make money as an amateur, you're extremely unlikely to do so. but even if you suck you probably wont be losing more than 10-20% of your bet in EV. so if you place a $100 bet you could look at it as betting $20 for entertainment.
EC10 fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Nov 14, 2021 |
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 15:58
|
|
|
Was switching to support Arsenal the result of a losing bet?
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 16:03
|
|
the sex ghost posted:To be clear *puts sensible hat on* having a bet on the football can be fun, but it can also be and frequently is not fun. btw m8, i think your advice is nailed on for anyone who isnt an experienced gambler or doing it for relative pennies
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 16:08
|
|
|
i bet you ten quid you can't quit right now and get a job at tescos instead ideally in the warehouse because there's gently caress all at my local one
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 16:15
|
|
|
EC10 posted:im not a sports betting professional but i have friends who are and its possible to profit. its multi-billion dollar industry, you dont have to beat everyone, just some of them. not that i want to encourage anyone to try and make money as an amateur, you're extremely unlikely to do so. but even if you suck you probably wont be losing more than 10-20% of your bet in EV. so if you place a $100 bet you could look at it as betting $20 for entertainment. I will send you $100 to gently caress off forever
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 17:06
|
|
|
Weaponized Cum posted:I will send you $100 to gently caress off forever I’ll even sweeten the deal by matching this, as a professional gambler you should recognize when to walk away
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 17:11
|
|
|
sassassin posted:Get help. Isn’t this just like playing the football pools, which a large proportion of the UK used to do every week, with a guy coming door to door to collect the fees?
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 17:16
|
|
wooger posted:Isn’t this just like playing the football pools, which a large proportion of the UK used to do every week, with a guy coming door to door to collect the fees? Weaponized Cum posted:I will send you $100 to gently caress off forever
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 17:55
|
|
|
the modern equivalent of the pools is putting on a £2 acca every weekend which is kind of like the lottery in that on one hand it's objectively pissing money down the drain, even compared to gambling on a single match, but it's also not something that's going to end with you joining the french foreign legion so if it gives you £2 worth of fun then que sera sera FullLeatherJacket fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Nov 14, 2021 |
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:07
|
|
|
FullLeatherJacket posted:the modern equivalent of the pools is putting on a £2 acca every weekend I do actually do a "pools bet" - literally pick 10 games I think are likely to be draws and chuck them in an accumulator - because I got in that habit a very long time ago. However I have to limit it to a 50p stake because most times the winnings on anything higher than that would bump into the £250k max payout, and somehow I think this makes me a smarter gambler. (I do also bet on West Ham games but normally on likely worst-case scenarios and Moyes is loving this up for me right now)
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:19
|
|
|
I always do a big lol at "professional gamblers" talking about putting bets on. If you're any way actually good the bookies will limit you to 25p bets within a month or two. If they're not doing that you're a mark. Listen to some of the guys who've actually made money gambling (and then lost it on drugs, women and cars,) and they're all on about getting university students to sign up accounts for them to even get the bet on. Go into the gambling forum here and you have guys betting $5k with no problem.
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:25
|
|
|
I bet combat sports more than anything else and I alway bet the same amount of money that’s essentially disposable to me regardless of confidence or odds because gambling is cool and good, but not when you look at it as a way to gain or lose meaningful amounts of money.
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:34
|
|
Mrenda posted:I always do a big lol at "professional gamblers" talking about putting bets on. If you're any way actually good the bookies will limit you to 25p bets within a month or two. If they're not doing that you're a mark. thats simply not true, you dont know what youre talking about. i know people who put down 6 figures in action a week, and are profitable over years. there's edges to be had. if millions of people (recreational gamblers) are losing percentages of every bet they make, theres room for a few pro's in there.
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:35
|
|
Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I’ll even sweeten the deal by matching this, as a professional gambler you should recognize when to walk away the other muppet you quoted is one of the handful of people ive had on ignore here for years, but you can gently caress off too #blessed
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:36
|
|
EC10 posted:thats simply not true, you dont know what youre talking about. i know people who put down 6 figures in action a week, and are profitable over years. there's edges to be had. if millions of people (recreational gamblers) are losing percentages of every bet they make, theres room for a few pro's in there. I choose to believe Mrenda over you.
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:37
|
|
|
Send me 76 grand
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:37
|
|
EC10 with all his friends who put down 6 figgies a week. They are off screen laughing with him
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:39
|
|
|
i used to make quite a bit of money betting mainly on basketball (more predictable outcomes, and i'm not really a huge fan of any team/player so no emotion clouding my judgment) this was back when US sportsbooks were largely illegal though, and i assume were still run by someone who looked like and was as smart as this guy:  nowadays they hire ivy league economics PHDs to run that poo poo and i'd probably lose big time if i tried to play smart guy, but back then it was like amateur hour designed to win money off homer simpson
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:40
|
|
CyberPingu posted:I choose to believe Mrenda over you. oh yeah im sure the guy putting "professional gambler" in air quotes really knows his stuff i wouldn't expect a person who hasnt been exposed to the area to be able to differentiate between their mate who says he's good at blackjack and what forms of gambling exists beyond unbeatable casino games
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:41
|
|
|
also:
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:42
|
|
|
why would i make up that i have friends who are pro sports bettors you loving pillock? i didnt say that i am friends with haralabos voulgaris or anything. if you want to google him, you'll find an NBA sports bettor who made tens of millions and leveraged that into a management position at the Dallas Mavericks
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:43
|
|
|
a shudder goes down the spine of the computer janitor as he realizes ways to earn money exist outside of his 20 pounds an hour cubicle
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:45
|
|
|
haralabos voulgaris
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:48
|
|
|
EC10 posted:why would i make up that i have friends who are pro sports bettors you loving pillock? I don’t really have strong feelings here but this sounds like something that people would commonly make up.
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:49
|
|
|
alreet harry potter
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:49
|
|
bewbies posted:nowadays they hire ivy league economics PHDs to run that poo poo and i'd probably lose big time if i tried to play smart guy, but back then it was like amateur hour designed to win money off homer simpson this is true. but just like some people make money in the stock market against armies of ivy league PhD's, so too can some non-PhD's take a slice of the pie of the billions of dumb money that goes into other markets
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:51
|
|
|
Bape Culture posted:haralabos voulgaris rowling got cancelled, son these days if you say haralabos voulgaris they arrest you and put you in jail
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:54
|
|
|
Less of what's going on here please, there's a forum dedicated to gambling and professionally trading or whatever the term is. Nobody pay EC10 to gently caress off. EC10 don't try and own people about their jobs or the number of figures they earn
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 18:55
|
|
|
EC10 posted:thats simply not true, you dont know what youre talking about. i know people who put down 6 figures in action a week, and are profitable over years. there's edges to be had. if millions of people (recreational gamblers) are losing percentages of every bet they make, theres room for a few pro's in there. If you're a loser or look like you're going to lose in the long run, sure. A quick google for "Bookies + Limiting" or "Bookies + closing accounts" and you'll find all you want to know about what happens to accounts with an edge. If you're getting on six figures of action a week you're a mark. Of course, if you're going to effort to get that on, using multiple accounts, VPNs, dodgy Asian sites, getting various people into different shops to put money on, signing up university students at a percentage of your wagering, etc. sure, you could be getting a lot of money on. If you're logging into Bet365 and allowed to regularly stake 50k on something the accounts lads are creaming themselves over you. if millions of people (recreational gamblers) are losing percentages of every bet they make, theres room for a few pro's in there. Also, this is hilarious. The bookies are just sitting their thinking, "Yes, let's take money from the losing accounts and instead of keeping it for us let's pay it out to some pro who's rinsing us every time." If there's some famous "gambler" who's talking big about his bets chances are he's backed by the bookies and part of their advertising budgets. It's the same as the guys livestreaming slots, they're playing with the house's money and earning a wage as an "influencer." The only exception to this could be the new US markets that have just opened that are looking to build turnover rather than profit. Any established market that isn't involved in marketing their book is closing accounts left, right and centre. Also, Australia, where there's legislation that says you have to take a certain amount of a bet at market prices if you've listed it publicly. But because of that Australia has shite odds. Edit: Sorry Sex Ghost, didn't see your post as I was typing this up. I'll stop now.
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 19:00
|
|
EC10 posted:a shudder goes down the spine of the computer janitor as he realizes ways to earn money exist outside of his 20 pounds an hour cubicle Nice meltdown.
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 19:05
|
|
|
Mrenda posted:looking to build turnover rather than profit I have no idea what Im talking about, but that sounds like money laundering to my idiot brain
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 19:07
|
|
Mrenda posted:If you're a loser or look like you're going to lose in the long run, sure. A quick google for "Bookies + Limiting" or "Bookies + closing accounts" and you'll find all you want to know about what happens to accounts with an edge. one example that just shatters your aguement: Circa sportsbook in vegas. they will take $50k bets on the app from my friend who is a known pro gambler (very googleable, has been banned/limited by other vegas books etc.) and "dodgy" Asian sites (often backed by some billionaire known to the community and ) offer similar to a different friend of mine. and you havent heard about betting exchanges have you? where gamblers gamble with each other 1on1, and the house takes a small % to facilitate it. in those instances, you are literally not even betting against the casino. quote:If there's some famous "gambler" who's talking big about his bets chances are he's backed by the bookies and part of their advertising budgets. It's the same as the guys livestreaming slots, they're playing with the house's money and earning a wage as an "influencer." anyway im checking out of this convo.
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 19:08
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 8, 2024 13:29 |
|
EC10 posted:. 
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2021 19:11
|
|