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Srice posted:Grinding in a SMT game is for dang fools (unless you enjoy grinding, in which case more power to you!). Instead, always be fusing. the only time ive grinded so far was to fuse pyrojack for the second boss because i was super light on fire attacks, and it took like ten minutes
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Nov 14, 2021 16:09
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Len posted:You still gotta grind the MC up in order to fuse You get so much xp from the various Mitamas and subquest completion that I basically barely have to even engage random encounters unless I'm specifically looking for more demons or am about to level up.
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I mean that's what I've been doing! Trying to learn the mechanics and fusing my way through! I'm just having to learn that bosses will absolutely require everything you have, even early story bosses. Haven't ground anything yet, no sir.
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Nov 14, 2021 16:12
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Ibram Gaunt posted:You get so much xp from the various Mitamas and subquest completion that I basically barely have to even engage random encounters unless I'm specifically looking for more demons or am about to level up. i may regret this later but this very much does not seem to be a "you will get hosed if you explore and ignore most "random" encounters for a bit" thing which is nice
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Nov 14, 2021 16:14
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i think the big trap that might get people is like, early on if you manage to fuse yourself out of an elemental attack that you absolutely need and the early game economy makes compendium use impractical
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Nov 14, 2021 16:15
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Len posted:You still gotta grind the MC up in order to fuse Honestly just exploring and doing sidequests has been giving me a ton of exp. The petrified demons in particular give such an obscene amount of experience to the point where I wonder: is this legal? Can Atlus even get away with this?
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Srice posted:Honestly just exploring and doing sidequests has been giving me a ton of exp. The petrified demons in particular give such an obscene amount of experience to the point where I wonder: is this legal? Can Atlus even get away with this? it seemed like a lot (its basically a free grimoire to your party) but tbh in practice it doesn't take long to level any demon out of learning new moves anyway which is usually when i think of moving on
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I mean that's what I've been doing! Trying to learn the mechanics and fusing my way through! I'm just having to learn that bosses will absolutely require everything you have, even early story bosses. Haven't ground anything yet, no sir. Yep, that's fine! I just wanted to give some general advice because the status effect thing is something that's fairly unique to Megaten. Maybe I'm projecting a little but decades of RPGs just taught me that status effects are worthless and using them would be a waste of a turn.  Was a bit of an adjustment period for me.Oh, and also I don't know if this spell exists in SMTV (it probably does?) but there are spells that will auto reflect one physical or magical hit on the entire party. Ridiculously good for both avoiding damage and for denying the enemy a turn! Look out for them. Commander Keene posted:Close. The Press Turn system gives your party extra turns when you hit a weakness. Your party loses turns if you miss or hit a Null/Drain/Repel. Naturally this also works for the enemy the same way. Right yeah, that. I was fuzzy on the details. It's been a hot minute since I played SMTIV. I've been meaning to get back to it. I got lost for a long time on the world map and it kinda took the wind out of my sails. SMTV uses the same system then?
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Feels Villeneuve posted:it seemed like a lot (its basically a free grimoire to your party) but tbh in practice it doesn't take long to level any demon out of learning new moves anyway which is usually when i think of moving on That makes a lot more sense haha
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you get a lot of grimoires too. they really want you to use them and not hoard them
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Silver Falcon posted:Right yeah, that. I was fuzzy on the details. It's been a hot minute since I played SMTIV. I've been meaning to get back to it. I got lost for a long time on the world map and it kinda took the wind out of my sails. SMTV uses the same system then? Nah, it's closer to Xenoblade with it having multiple large open areas. There are some times where you'll be put in a world map like SMTIV, but it's brief. Pro-tip for enjoying the SMTIV world map if you ever decide to give it another go: Think of getting lost on that map as a feature. NPCs will give you directions and there's plenty of side quests to do. SMT is more about the worldbuilding (quite literally) than going straight from plot beat to plot beat. Especially in IV.
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Libluini posted:Ugh no, I hate this crap. Sorry, that's not for me. This fake retro 8bit-artstyle just looks horrible to me. I don't mind/like retro 8 bit style in general but I agree I don't like that game's look at all
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Nov 14, 2021 16:56
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Len posted:You still gotta grind the MC up in order to fuse I noticed there's actually something in place to discourage grinding. My demons will get more exp from the same fight compared to me once the game thinks I'm getting over leveled. Random encounters and a boss fight both did it. But when I'm under leveled, they all get the same.
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itsi p insane how theyve made a game where encounters are no longer random still feel threatening while also not penalisingy ou for avoiding fights. a jrpg masterclass.
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https://twitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1459773444531310593?s=20 The gift that keeps on giving.
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Nov 14, 2021 17:41
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maybe he should have spent 50 minutes doing something else
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Nov 14, 2021 17:47
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Why was he doing that? Is there an achievement or was he just being “wacky”
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Nov 14, 2021 17:50
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perhaps the name joel vinesauce will reveal the true motives
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Nov 14, 2021 17:51
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there is no way in h*ck I will recognize a version of Vice City without Kate Bush and Joe Jackson as legitmate for shame
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hatty posted:Why was he doing that? Is there an achievement or was he just being “wacky” It's the quickest way to make CJ fat
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joel vinesauce
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Oxyclean posted:https://twitter.com/UltimaShadowX/status/1459773444531310593?s=20 Sounds like they managed to make a value overflow. Does the Definitive Edition have auto-saving?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Does the Definitive Edition have auto-saving? Yep. And mission fail restarts.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:maybe he should have spent 50 minutes doing something else like playing a better game?
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Nov 14, 2021 18:17
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could just play the game like a normal person
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Nov 14, 2021 18:22
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Quantum of Phallus posted:could just play the game like a normal person that seems less entertaining
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Nov 14, 2021 18:23
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Is watching a character drink soda for an hour entertaining?
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Nov 14, 2021 18:30
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hatty posted:Is watching a character drink soda for an hour entertaining? Slap David Lynch's name on it and it's the best thing ever, and if you don't like it you're just a dumb philistine.
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Nov 14, 2021 18:40
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The Merkinman posted:Slap David Lynch's name on it and it's the best thing ever, and if you don't like it you're just a dumb philistine. drat................ true
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Nov 14, 2021 18:48
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Seems more like Andy Warhol
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The Merkinman posted:Slap David Lynch's name on it and it's the best thing ever, and if you don't like it you're just a dumb philistine. 
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Please don't insult CJ's crippling addiction to Gamer Fuel, it led to his death by gaming overdose and everyone involved is devastated.
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Nov 14, 2021 18:59
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CJ died from gamerfuel induced diabetes in 2005.
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curious what the defense is for the orange haze from Los Santos missing, or Vice City lacking any of its neon moodiness and it just looking really saturated now "lmao no those were bad actually"
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Nov 14, 2021 19:18
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my defence is “I don’t give a gently caress”
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At least the haze in San Andreas was fitting due to all the smog of LA at the time.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:my defence is “I don’t give a gently caress” I poke my head outta the gutter for one freakin' second and fate shovels takes in my face
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Playing through SMTV having never played an SMT or Persona in my life before. I hosed around for ages before getting to the first boss and it still felt super overtuned, but hey I beat it on my second attempt so maybe that's just how bosses are. If you get to a frustrating part or just want to grind too, there is a Safety difficulty option you can download for free from the eshop.
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