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Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


HashtagGirlboss posted:

Curious what it says but lmao at trying to dig through a 2k page pdf on my phone. Is it quotable?



you can ctrl-F in the pdf (well, maybe not on your phone), and it's just text of lovely automated captions

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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Curious what it says but lmao at trying to dig through a 2k page pdf on my phone. Is it quotable?

lol these machine generated transcripts read like schizophrenia ramblings

quote:

oh don’t know where Virgil is don’t care he
submitted something for us to show put on the show and we didn’t do it because it’s
like he’s not talking to us so why would we do it so sorry I’m not gonna bother with
him

quote:

Virgil is a little as real as
he is in your hearts Virgil belittle exists if you believe in him if you believe in Virgil
clap your hands you believe in virtual clap your hands

quote:

I don’t
know perhaps perhaps Virgil’s doing okay I talked to him about Rick and Morty I
tweeted I texted to him he gave me he’s apparently a big fan of the new episode so
he’s doing all right he can still appreciate good comedy he still has the reckless it
IQ to appreciate Rick and Morty and all of its intricacies

quote:

Virgil and I have become a
says we need a bandage after it’s version of the internet I talked about that Yes he’s
okay in fact we’re worth worth hot But this I just had to just reminded me of a very
good idea that we had together and it was People can’t handle the internet come
to the conclusion

quote:

yes virgil’s back virgil’s back on the show so no more asking me about it ever again

ok there's a bunch more mentions of him but i can't be hosed going through any more.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Breadallelogram posted:

Matt mentioned it in an early grill stream I believe



Xaris posted:

reddit made a book of cushbomb that has all the transcripts and looks like its the april 20th, 2020 o captain my captain show.

pdf link: https://www.cushbomb.com/TBOB.pdf

ty for you're service :patriot::thanks:

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Breadallelogram posted:



you can ctrl-F in the pdf (well, maybe not on your phone), and it's just text of lovely automated captions

Thanks! Trying to search the pdf was crashing my phone browser

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
the giant pdf thing is crazy

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

The Gang Gets Ghosted

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


Smythe posted:

the giant pdf thing is crazy

It's only 2732 pages long what's the problem

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


drat, action figures

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

good anna but hosed up dasha

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Breadallelogram posted:

and it's just text of lovely automated captions
yeah auto transcript poo poo (i.e. prob pulled from youtube since it has a built in transcript function) is always just awful. and lol at the thought of anyone trying to transcribe matt's ramblings beyond a paragraph. but it usually serves a purpose for a keyword if you're trying to remember where something was.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Victory Position posted:

drat, action figures

More like inaction figures

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004
I miss the frequent cush vlogs. Those were a pandemic staple for me.

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020
Giving a shout out to the crew at Chop Shop Economics, https://soundcloud.com/chopshopeconomics, who call themselves the 'premier Gonzo Economics podcast on the left.' Don't know of any other podcasts filling their niche, and they've been at this for a long time.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018


That's odd. Double-jointed knees but single jointed elbows. I wonder what the base figures were.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Greg Legg posted:

I miss the frequent cush vlogs. Those were a pandemic staple for me.

same

and stavvy solves your problems (rip again?)

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

i'd certainly trade a billion hinge points episodes for a 5 minute youtube of matt rambling about some philosophical nonsense while poorly grilling meats

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

crepeface posted:

lol these machine generated transcripts read like schizophrenia ramblings
yes, the transcripts read like that

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Xaris posted:

same

and stavvy solves your problems (rip again?)

yeah stav's streams rocked

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

crepeface posted:

ep2 of hingepoints: spontaneous anarchist worker uprisings get crushed by the state over and over. if only they had some kind of organization... perhaps with a hierarchy...

edit: organized small penises are more effective than average penises hardening willy-nilly.

i think they were wrong on a few points, espescially the doomer stuff about "the revolutions springing forth across europe that were crushed in 1918-20 were the last shot we had". like what. did they miss the part 30 years later where half of europe and large parts of the globe were communist. a more intelligent materialist take wouldn't be "we missed our shot in 1918" but that we had our shot later, took it and still lost.

i was inclined to be less charitable and inferred that they completely dismissed the later socialist states as inauthentic / bad / etc coming from the some leftcom embrace of spontaneity and workers councils, as opposed to by the deliberate actions of a fully functioning and organized socialist state that had years to develop a red army, monetary funding from its economic apparatus' surplus, intelligence services, massive manpower and other fully organized tools with which to successfully win. looking at what happened to the germans, whose revolution failed because of a lack of coordinated organization and the ability and the real power to fight back against reaction with sufficiently backed militarized formations, i would assume the lesson to draw is that the latter would be preferable. but a lot of lovely western marxists 'ate 'authoritarianism', love losing, simple as

i could be wrong maybe that's not their view and they're not those types of people

coathat
May 21, 2007

They seem to be bad at actually thinking of alternative history at a base level.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

mila kunis posted:

i think they were wrong on a few points, espescially the doomer stuff about "the revolutions springing forth across europe that were crushed in 1918-20 were the last shot we had". like what. did they miss the part 30 years later where half of europe and large parts of the globe were communist. a more intelligent materialist take wouldn't be "we missed our shot in 1918" but that we had our shot later, took it and still lost.

i was inclined to be less charitable and inferred that they completely dismissed the later socialist states as inauthentic / bad / etc coming from the some leftcom embrace of spontaneity and workers councils, as opposed to by the deliberate actions of a fully functioning and organized socialist state that had years to develop a red army, monetary funding from its economic apparatus' surplus, intelligence services, massive manpower and other fully organized tools with which to successfully win. looking at what happened to the germans, whose revolution failed because of a lack of coordinated organization and the ability and the real power to fight back against reaction with sufficiently backed militarized formations, i would assume the lesson to draw is that the latter would be preferable. but a lot of lovely western marxists 'ate 'authoritarianism', love losing, simple as

i could be wrong maybe that's not their view and they're not those types of people

Yeah surely the widespread leftist uprisings in Latin America in the 50s and 60s were a shot. They got put down by the USA, but they had genuine revolutionary potential.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

coathat posted:

They seem to be bad at actually thinking of alternative history at a base level.

In the episodes i've heard so far anytime Matt is asked about alt history he completely dismissed the concept. Which makes you wonder why he choose to do a podcast who's premise is supposed to be alt history.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

AnimeIsTrash posted:

In the episodes i've heard so far anytime Matt is asked about alt history he completely dismissed the concept. Which makes you wonder why he choose to do a podcast who's premise is supposed to be alt history.

i think thats the joke. "heres what could have happened, but due to actual material factors on the ground, didn't"

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

mila kunis posted:

i think thats the joke. "heres what could have happened, but due to actual material factors on the ground, didn't"

yeah matt has specifically pointed this out for years, that stuff about "what if clausewitz forgot his pipe tobacco on that fateful morning" doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things because of the tides of history

but really, president henry wallace. fun to think about

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
I think hinge points is good and I enjoy listening to it

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
what if it was bingepoints and matt just got as drunk as he did on the 2018 midterm stream and ranted

Reik
Mar 8, 2004

Shipon posted:

what if it was bingepoints and matt just got as drunk as he did on the 2018 midterm stream and ranted

A hingepoint episode covering the alt history of what if matt did bingepoints instead.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

mila kunis posted:

i think they were wrong on a few points, espescially the doomer stuff about "the revolutions springing forth across europe that were crushed in 1918-20 were the last shot we had". like what. did they miss the part 30 years later where half of europe and large parts of the globe were communist. a more intelligent materialist take wouldn't be "we missed our shot in 1918" but that we had our shot later, took it and still lost.

i was inclined to be less charitable and inferred that they completely dismissed the later socialist states as inauthentic / bad / etc coming from the some leftcom embrace of spontaneity and workers councils, as opposed to by the deliberate actions of a fully functioning and organized socialist state that had years to develop a red army, monetary funding from its economic apparatus' surplus, intelligence services, massive manpower and other fully organized tools with which to successfully win. looking at what happened to the germans, whose revolution failed because of a lack of coordinated organization and the ability and the real power to fight back against reaction with sufficiently backed militarized formations, i would assume the lesson to draw is that the latter would be preferable. but a lot of lovely western marxists 'ate 'authoritarianism', love losing, simple as

i could be wrong maybe that's not their view and they're not those types of people

I think their point is that future attempts were basically national in nature and doomed to fail as a result of that (which can be debated, but is at least internally consistent), and that ~1918-1919 was the last chance of an international movement spreading across the countries that would later form the post-war capitalist international order. Said international capitalist order was firmly entrenched and dominant militarily as a result of WW2, so any local attempts at socialism were essentially doomed by that point (or at least held no potential for spreading beyond their borders).

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Ytlaya posted:

I think their point is that future attempts were basically national in nature and doomed to fail as a result of that (which can be debated, but is at least internally consistent), and that ~1918-1919 was the last chance of an international movement spreading across the countries that would later form the post-war capitalist international order. Said international capitalist order was firmly entrenched and dominant militarily as a result of WW2, so any local attempts at socialism were essentially doomed by that point (or at least held no potential for spreading beyond their borders).

right and thats what i consider moronic. there was an international socialist movement and socialism did spread, massively so! just thirty years later, with far more organization and cohesion, and with the aid of a socialist state that used some of the surplus generated by the hundreds of millions of people living within its borders to do so.

hell there was even a socialist state in freakin germany

you're correct that it didn't penetrate most of the satellite states of the fourth reich, which eventually won, but it's a big stretch from that to say it was "essentially national in nature". it's the kind of blinkered viewpoint you'd expect from anti-communist leftists in the imperial core, i expected better from matt christman (but not bessner)

von Braun
Oct 30, 2009


Broder Daniel Forever

Xaris posted:

reddit made a book of cushbomb that has all the transcripts and looks like its the april 20th, 2020 o captain my captain show.

pdf link: https://www.cushbomb.com/TBOB.pdf

this is disturbing

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

FPyat posted:

the 'premier Gonzo Economics podcast on the left.'

I would rather have my head sawed off than listen to this

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


some #uatx updates

https://twitter.com/nfergus/status/1460383707554975744?s=21

https://twitter.com/sapinker/status/1460363333240905734?s=21

Wraith of J.O.I. has issued a correction as of 01:28 on Nov 16, 2021

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Stink With Pinker

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Greg Legg posted:

I miss the frequent cush vlogs. Those were a pandemic staple for me.

What will happen to his book now that the publisher was bought out?

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
a political outsider in college, truly the kind of intellectual bravery missing these days by a guy who went to lobby for big tobacco

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

Dmitri-9 posted:

What will happen to his book now that the publisher was bought out?

It sounds like if he had an outstanding contract with zer0 it will be honored but who knows whether the direction of the publisher will have room for stuff like matt's moving forward

quote:

As you may have heard, John Hunt Publishing has recently been bought by Watkins Media. A new interim team is currently being assembled to manage Zer0 Books, which will include members of the original team that founded the imprint in 2007. No one has been ‘fired’, but Douglas Lain has announced inaccurately that he was let go. We have currently suspended submissions and commissions for Zer0 Books whilst we look at how the list will fit in with Repeater Books. All contracts will be honored, all titles currently in production will be published, and any forthcoming titles will be marketed by an active and dedicated team.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

quote:

whilst

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo
https://twitter.com/CurtisRemarcus/status/1460045842627190786
lol

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

lol that's a fun take to ironically push

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