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Not making Abrams VP was a huge loving mistake.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:43 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 20:18 |
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Bizarro Watt posted:What's funny is that Bernie most definitely lives rent free in Musk's mind. He has correctly recognized that Bernie is an ineffectual joke. He's not laying awake at night worrying about all the grassroots progressive efforts to raise his taxes or whatever.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:44 |
PhazonLink posted:Obamacare, obamaphones. Spending your taxes to Build Back Better.... after all, it's Joe Money!
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:46 |
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Jizz Festival posted:He has correctly recognized that Bernie is an ineffectual joke. He's not laying awake at night worrying about all the grassroots progressive efforts to raise his taxes or whatever. No, it's probably both He can recognized that Bernie won't be able to put progressive policy into practice while still seething about the rhetoric
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:47 |
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Jizz Festival posted:He has correctly recognized that Bernie is an ineffectual joke. He's not laying awake at night worrying about all the grassroots progressive efforts to raise his taxes or whatever. Bernie is the most popular politician in the country and his base is the same people who are likely to "idolize" a cringe tech bro like Musk. I am positive that musk has a press agent telling him that capitalism is becoming uncool.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:47 |
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Timeless Appeal posted:Not making Abrams VP was a huge loving mistake. despite my inordinate stockpile of fish and music puns in hopes of a Karen Bass nod, I would also have accepted Abrams and she'd be way better than Harris Gatts posted:Yes. Imagine the zest a Pete Buttegeig VP nom would bring to the ticket. ngl, while i hope the supply chain unfucks itself sooner rather than later for mostly reduction-in-human-suffering reasons, there's also a chance it plunges us into the Butt Timeline if he can successfully take credit as sectrans and, heck, probably an improvement over the Harris Timeline
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:49 |
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Dante80 posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1460051518124699650 Good stuff elon the emerald prince is lolling at Tyler zed. Another alt lite duck who literally makes anti Asian jokes like "oh the Chinese restaurant has " rets go Brandon"" on their sign.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:52 |
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Timeless Appeal posted:Not making Abrams VP was a huge loving mistake. GreyjoyBastard posted:despite my inordinate stockpile of fish and music puns in hopes of a Karen Bass nod, I would also have accepted Abrams and she'd be way better than Harris
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:55 |
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Just lmao after the first 10 months of Biden's presidency that Dems are war-gaming getting rid of Harris as a future candidate, much less in favor of Buttigieg.-Blackadder- posted:What happened with this anyway, like why Harris specifically over people who's competence and likability were so much higher? Did Harris have enough Hilary supporters that would've stayed home or was it something else? It was a nod to BLM after nominating the white guy with a history of racist speech & legislation.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:56 |
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-Blackadder- posted:What happened with this anyway, like why Harris specifically over people who's competence and likability were so much higher? Did Harris have enough Hilary supporters that would've stayed home or was it something else?
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:56 |
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-Blackadder- posted:What happened with this anyway, like why Harris specifically over people who's competence and likability were so much higher? Did Harris have enough Hilary supporters that would've stayed home or was it something else? if we find out in four years when someone writes a tell-all that the only point was to neutralize the k-hive this will actually all have been worth it
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 03:57 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:My only guess is that the donors like her, because she raised a lot of money in her brief campaign. I can't think of another reason because she's not popular at all. She was a prosecutor and will gladly gently caress over PoC to climb the ladder
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 04:02 |
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-Blackadder- posted:What happened with this anyway, like why Harris specifically over people who's competence and likability were so much higher? Did Harris have enough Hilary supporters that would've stayed home or was it something else? Klobb was in posession of an extraordinarily topical scandal right as VP sweepstakes were taking place. I know Obama-Biden promised a lot of candidates poo poo to drop out and endorse him, but I cant imagine Harris being their first choice until that happened. Outside of very embarassing picks like Tim Kaine, VP's are usually picked to deliver states or mollify a part of the base; Pence was picked to be the reasonable anchor to Trump, Biden to lock up the Racist Democrat base, Ryan for the tea partiers, Palin for the wingnuts, etcetera. Klobb might have probably been their midwest pick, I cant imagine what Harris would bring on those lines. Her entire base is diehard clintonites, shes from California, and Biden has absurd numbers among black americans despite the vast majority of his legislative history and gaffes. I dont think anyone had pretensions on Buttigeig providing anything, and the party had yet to give Stacey Abrams all the credit for Georgia organizing. Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Nov 15, 2021 |
# ? Nov 15, 2021 04:08 |
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-Blackadder- posted:What happened with this anyway, like why Harris specifically over people who's competence and likability were so much higher? Did Harris have enough Hilary supporters that would've stayed home or was it something else? But honestly, I forget she's VP most of the time and Biden is probably overall a better President than she would be. I think after Georgia, a VP Abrams would really feel like an historical force of nature. My guess is that she was passed over for perceived lack of experience while also hoping she would become the Georgia governor.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 04:09 |
BRJohnson posted:Love your energy but what's the justification on hating on Bernie? There's been good posts about the necessity of the kind of social policies he CONSTANTLY CONSISTENTLY talks about, and it bridges the gaps in what will help the masses. Yeah he talks, and that's it. At this point he's just doing the politics equivalent of an Internet Tough Guy routine and it's cringe. Musk has actual material power that Sanders doesn't threaten in any meaningful way, so the latter threatening the former is a joke and Musk is correct to treat it as such FlamingLiberal posted:My only guess is that the donors like her, because she raised a lot of money in her brief campaign. I can't think of another reason because she's not popular at all. Yeah it's the donors, and I think what makes Kamala particularly appealing to them is just how compliant she is. She was willing to damage her own campaign doing next-day walkbacks when it was otherwise desperately scrambling for traction. Even a sociopath like Pete wouldn't have been that cooperative in that situation e: Timeless Appeal posted:My guess is that she was passed over for perceived lack of experience while also hoping she would become the Georgia governor. She was passed over because (allegedly) the Biden campaign reached out to her when it was cratering early in the primary to try and Fiorina her, and she brushed them off because they looked dead in the water and took a big check to hang out with Mike Bloomberg instead TheIncredulousHulk fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 04:11 |
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Eric Cantonese posted:CNN.com's headline story is a piece on how dysfunctional Biden's relationship with Harris is. Wonderful! Rather than dysfunctional, it feels more adversarial. Lots of complaints from Harris loyalists complaining that Biden isn't doing enough to promote her and boost her. When she was first chosen, there were a number of folks in the Biden team who were loudly suspicious that she'd focus on her own personal political ambitions, and now we see folks in Harris' circles complaining that Biden isn't giving her enough opportunities to lead and isn't doing enough to set her up for a 2028 run. The article's a bit vague about it at the start, but as you get further along it gets pretty blatant about Harris supporters complaining that she's being too loyal to Biden and needs to prioritize her own personal political goals more: quote:Harris loyalists themselves worry that she'll pay the price for her own loyalty to the President and her willingness to take on what they view as thankless assignments. It's rather weird for a vice-president to be complaining about being left out and not getting many chances to lead. After all, they're the vice-president, not someone important.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 04:34 |
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Yeah he talks, and that's it. At this point he's just doing the politics equivalent of an Internet Tough Guy routine and it's cringe. Musk has actual material power that Sanders doesn't threaten in any meaningful way, so the latter threatening the former is a joke and Musk is correct to treat it as such Maybe he does have power in a meaningful way when people read what he says. Maybe me and people like me hearing it is important.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 04:42 |
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I dont have a lot of respect for Biden, but ignoring Harris is probably one of his few good moves, alongside not backing out of the Afghanistan withdrawal & making the sauds mad. She's a charisma hole, represents a withering and sterile clintonite base (even by the standards of centrist superstars), and couldnt even get to her state's primary before her family drained the coffers. Her greatest traits are a rictus grin and sneakers.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 04:42 |
BRJohnson posted:Maybe he does have power in a meaningful way when people read what he says. Maybe me and people like me hearing it is important. Well then I guess we just disagree because I don't think it is
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 04:53 |
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This is what the dems get when they limited their VP choices to the shallow pool of "female minority". (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:13 |
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Neurolimal posted:I dont have a lot of respect for Biden, but ignoring Harris is probably one of his few good moves, alongside not backing out of the Afghanistan withdrawal Yeah I kinda think the Afghan withdrawal went about as well as it could have gone. Even if Biden had known that all the sources saying the US-backed regime would hold out for months or years were way off, what could he really have done differently? Mayyybe if he'd accelerated resettlement of Afghans who wanted to flee the country, even though the regime asked Biden not to do that, it would have helped more collaborators and therefore been more palatable, but it would have still looked awful.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:19 |
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https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936?s=20 I feel like this is pretty terrible idea.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:20 |
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Neurolimal posted:https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936?s=20 Stop giving me hope Copmala is about to go away
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:26 |
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Neurolimal posted:https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936?s=20 Feels a little like telling on yourself when you decide to issue a statement like that.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:26 |
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:She was a prosecutor and will gladly gently caress over PoC to climb the ladder I think you mean "Has." https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/1/23/18184192/kamala-harris-president-campaign-criminal-justice-record quote:For example, Harris’s office fought to release fewer prisoners, even after the US Supreme Court found that overcrowding in California prisons was so bad that it amounted to unconstitutional cruel and unusual punishment. At one point, her lawyers argued that the state couldn’t release some prisoners because it would deplete its pool for prison labor — but Harris quickly clarified that she was not aware her office was going with that argument until it was reported by media. Of course, why would the attorney general have any idea about that sort of thing going in in her own office?
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:34 |
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:This is what the dems get when they limited their VP choices to the shallow pool of "female minority". thinking about the halcyon days of fantasizing sanders picking turner.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:35 |
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should have been hillary
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:37 |
I feel like that statement's a warning to the people in Kamala's camp to stop complaining in the press
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:38 |
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:This is what the dems get when they limited their VP choices to the shallow pool of "female minority". She's literally just a diversity pick, pretty much. A lot about the Dems makes sense realising they'd spent literal decades making sure the bench was clear for Hillary Clinton and as a result have no one left under 70 that anyone for some reason actually likes.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:39 |
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Neurolimal posted:https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936?s=20 I'm suddenly reminded of all the staff and cabinet members that Trump said he had complete confidence in, and then fired within a week.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:43 |
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-Blackadder- posted:What happened with this anyway, like why Harris specifically over people who's competence and likability were so much higher? Did Harris have enough Hilary supporters that would've stayed home or was it something else? The prevailing wisdom at the time was that he was trying to mirror how he was picked by Obama to be his VP, in that he caused a stir in the early primary process by just savagely insulting Obama (with a pretty racist grandpa brainfart) and they eventually mended fences after Biden dropped out, became friends, and forged a pretty effective#1-#2 team for the subsequent 8 years of Obama's presidency. We got the first couple of steps of that with the Biden-Harris relationship, ie: the savage chaos dunk from Harris that briefly wobbled Biden's campaign and caught his attention and the mending fences afterwards enough to get picked for the Veep post, but that whole "became legitimate friends and reliable working partners" thing never materialized like it did between Obama and Biden, so Harris got pushed to the periphery to tailspin in her own embarrassments privately, whereas when Biden cocked up under Obama, Barry was always there behind him to help him laugh it all off and help foster that phantasmic Diamond Joe Biden image that a lot of people still had in their brains when they went into the voting booth in 2020.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:48 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Feels a little like telling on yourself when you decide to issue a statement like that. Yeah it's got a real hit dogs holler feel that's for sure.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 05:53 |
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Neurolimal posted:https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936?s=20 And any man who must say 'I am king' is no true king at all. George R.R. Martin
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 06:36 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Feels a little like telling on yourself when you decide to issue a statement like that. The classic 'our coach has our full support' statement a week before the team loses 35-3 and the team bus leaves with one fewer person than it showed up with.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 06:36 |
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Jizz Festival posted:He has correctly recognized that Bernie is an ineffectual joke. He's not laying awake at night worrying about all the grassroots progressive efforts to raise his taxes or whatever. It's pretty much this. The left in America can't do poo poo and Musk is taking a victory lap on twitter having secured his taxes for another cycle... Musk has legions of wannabes who idolize him as someone they want to be. A guy who has his fingers in all kinds of big ticket items like cars, rockets and battery tech, crypto. Frankly any leftist criticism of him (no matter how well deserved or accurate) is gonna look like sour grapes at this point thanks to the narrative currently in place. He's built an image of himself like he's Howard Hughes or something.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 06:48 |
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The left is accused of sour grapes for literally existing, it's not like that's new.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 07:04 |
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What day is the Rittenhouse verdict expected? Closing arguments are Monday
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 07:05 |
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Neurolimal posted:https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936?s=20 I don't know who at the White House needs to hear this but people don't like Kamala Harris because she's a boring, triangulating, empty suit who doesn't inspire anyone and has legitimate problematic behavior in the past. Not because she's black or a woman. I mean. People do dislike or like her because of those things, but the people you're trying to convince don't really care about those things. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Nov 15, 2021 |
# ? Nov 15, 2021 07:17 |
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm suddenly reminded of all the staff and cabinet members that Trump said he had complete confidence in, and then fired within a week. I would actually be fine with Harris being fired and replaced, but I don't think that's an option for vice presidents.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 07:25 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 20:18 |
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Correct, the vice president cannot be fired and would have to resign (or be impeached and convicted). A new VP would then be nominated and have to pass confirmation votes in both houses.
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# ? Nov 15, 2021 07:32 |