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Why is that gross? Do you think limited would be fun if every rarity was the same in power level
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I think we owe the goon who wanted to build Merfolk in Modern an apology: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4429421#online Just when I think I understand the format, poo poo like this happens
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Nov 15, 2021 13:23
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Nov 15, 2021 14:05
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If I cast alchemists gambit for 1RR and get another turn effect during the same turn, when do I lose the game? I assume it is my choice which turn to take first? But I am not sure.
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Nov 15, 2021 14:06
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VictualSquid posted:If I cast alchemists gambit for 1RR and get another turn effect during the same turn, when do I lose the game? I assume it is my choice which turn to take first? But I am not sure. In Magic, the most recently generated extra turn will be taken first. So if you cast Alchemist's gambit, then another Timewalk, then cast more Timewalks during your Timewalk turn, you won't reach the Alchemist's Gambit turn which makes you lose the game, until all the extra turns that were cast after it have finished.
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Nov 15, 2021 14:09
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Yoked posted:I think we owe the goon who wanted to build Merfolk in Modern an apology: This list owns lol
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Nov 15, 2021 14:26
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Yoked posted:I think we owe the goon who wanted to build Merfolk in Modern an apology: 
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Nov 15, 2021 14:47
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Another thing, can I counter Alchemist's gambit game loss? Using Discontinuity or Tale's End as example.
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Nov 15, 2021 14:59
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VictualSquid posted:Another thing, can I counter Alchemist's gambit game loss? Using Discontinuity or Tale's End as example. yeah, that works fine
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Nov 15, 2021 15:04
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Pablo Nergigante posted:You’re thinking of Shakirabilities Lmao
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Nov 15, 2021 15:05
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mcmagic posted:Ehh nothing is all that expensive.I don’t think it’s worse than previous formats. You always need rares. This is meaningless to Arena players. Every rare costs one Rare wildcard, the cost of the card is immaterial. I haven't been able to make a competitive Standard deck all year, playing Arena exclusively.
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Nov 15, 2021 15:13
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Perry Mason Jar posted:This is meaningless to Arena players. Every rare costs one Rare wildcard, the cost of the card is immaterial. what exactly are you doing with all the rewards you get for playing arena that are keeping you from making a deck
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Nov 15, 2021 15:18
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Pablo Nergigante posted:You’re thinking of Shakirabilities I love you
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Nov 15, 2021 15:24
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VictualSquid posted:Another thing, can I counter Alchemist's gambit game loss? Using Discontinuity or Tale's End as example. Yes, all of these 'you lose the game at' effects are delayed triggers that you can counter at the losing time specified.
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Nov 15, 2021 15:25
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Perry Mason Jar posted:This is meaningless to Arena players. Every rare costs one Rare wildcard, the cost of the card is immaterial. I play standard on arena exclusively and i have pretty much every deck in standard. I've spent around 20 bucks on gems in the last year.
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Nov 15, 2021 15:26
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flatluigi posted:what exactly are you doing with all the rewards you get for playing arena that are keeping you from making a deck This came up last season when I made the same complaint when I got back into it for MID, so took a look when VOW released i had 6 rare wildcards it was enough to improve the deck I was playing certainly but not enough to make a new one.
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Nov 15, 2021 15:27
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HootTheOwl posted:This came up last season when I made the same complaint when I got back into it for MID, so took a look when VOW released i had 6 rare wildcards it was enough to improve the deck I was playing certainly but not enough to make a new one. 1. Do all the quests to get coins 2. Don't buy packs, save your coins to draft. Then draft with the gems you win too. 3. Craft all the uncommons and commons from a new set right when it comes out to help fill your treasure box faster. If you do all this and just have a decent draft win rate you will just naturally end up with a ton of WC's. If you have a good draft win rate or get mythic in draft or constructed you'll easily have enough WCs to have every standard deck you need. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 15:32
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A big flaming stink posted:What on earth Svyelun of Sea and Sky is a motherfucker of a card, is what. Other tribes wished they had something so obviously pushed. Tide Shaper as a means of mana denial and Subtlety pulling double duty as free counterspell and evasive beater also helped significantly. Glasspool Mimic is 3 cmc, 1 less than most clones, and has the upside of being a land if necessary. Most clones just sit uselessly if the board's not good. The sideboard let's the deck go more towards control and has grave hate pieces, which have no backfire here. Shout out to Theiving Skydiver, who for 3 cmc can take a colossus hanmer from the puresteel paladin lists and hammer them with it right back, or snag amulet of vigor for laughs, and is a flying 2 drop besides.
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flatluigi posted:what exactly are you doing with all the rewards you get for playing arena that are keeping you from making a deck Sitting on them until I can make a viable deck from them but the time never comes. It's also really daunting to go all in on a deck because okay so I blow every wildcard I have and then well I have one deck lol good luck not getting bored
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Svyelun of Sea and Sky is a motherfucker of a card, is what. Other tribes wished they had something so obviously pushed. I'm almost done with my Merfolk deck and I've been looking at recent decks for inspiration so I'm running Subtlety and Mimic too - Subtlety is sick and it's by far the cheapest of those evoke elemental cards so a full set only cost me like $20. I'm probably gonna bring Merfolk to my LGS this week for Wednesday modern 
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mcmagic posted:If you have a good draft win rate or get mythic in draft or constructed you'll easily have enough WCs to have every standard deck you need. [Narrator: drafting, unfortunately, is not easy.]
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I'm almost done with my Merfolk deck and I've been looking at recent decks for inspiration so I'm running Subtlety and Mimic too - Subtlety is sick and it's by far the cheapest of those evoke elemental cards so a full set only cost me like $20. I'm probably gonna bring Merfolk to my LGS this week for Wednesday modern If I wasn't about to buy a tabernacle I'd want to build this fish deck. It looks like a lot of fun Wait what's the oboro for? ilmucche fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 15:59
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ilmucche posted:If I wasn't about to buy a tabernacle I'd want to build this fish deck. It looks like a lot of fun Dodging Choke and Boil, I'd guess
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Lone Goat posted:Dodging Choke and Boil, I'd guess Yeah, also a lot of decks run Mutavault (mine included) and you can kinda filter the mana by tapping Oboro for 1 blue, tapping a Mutavault for 1 colorless, return Oboro play it again and tap for another blue. I'm not running it personally since it's $80 but I do have Minamo and I'm also running Castle Vantress to have another utility blue land.
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This is what I'm running, I need 1 more Aether Vial and some of the sideboard is still iffy but I think it's a deece list: 1 Castle Vantress 10 Island 1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge 4 Mutavault 2 Waterlogged Grove 3 Aether Vial 3 Archmage's Charm 4 Glasspool Mimic // Glasspool Shore 4 Harbinger of the Tides 4 Master of the Pearl Trident 4 Merfolk Trickster 4 Silvergill Adept 4 Spell Pierce 4 Subtlety 4 Svyelun of Sea and Sky 4 Tide Shaper Sideboard: 2 Counterspell 2 Dismember 2 Mystical Dispute 2 Soul-Guide Lantern 3 Tempted by the Oriq 2 Tidebinder Mage 2 Void Mirror
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I would also love to run Cavern of Souls and potentially SB Chalice of the Void but lol at the price tags.
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You absolutely do not want Cavern if you're running Archmage's Charm, Mutavault and Subtlety, so you can save yourself $300.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Oboro ... it's $80 What in the goddamn hell, that's insane.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:This is meaningless to Arena players. Every rare costs one Rare wildcard, the cost of the card is immaterial. Perry Mason Jar posted:Sitting on them until I can make a viable deck from them but the time never comes. And then ultimately, if you're really as pressed as you're making it sound for being able to build a deck, just spend the $50 on the 50 packs of the new set when those bundles are in the store. I know people don't like spending money on the game, but with $50 (a small part of what you'd spend making a deck IRL) you get 50 guaranteed rares/mythics and/or wildcards, and eight guaranteed rare/mythic wildcards. You also fill up your uncommons/commons (and U/C wildcards) which allows you to get more gems and vault progress while drafting. Also another tip that will help with your overall gold gain: try to keep one 500 gold quest in your quests every day without completing it so that when you use your free reroll of the day, you have a chance to turn a 500g quest into 750g one. GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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ilmucche posted:If I wasn't about to buy a tabernacle I'd want to build this fish deck. It looks like a lot of fun A single oboro is generally an upgrade from a single island in a lot of extreme edge cases. Its not required for the deck at all. You can probably ask veteran fish players how often they activate the land and I am willing to bet most of them aren't in the double digits yet.
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Yoked posted:You absolutely do not want Cavern if you're running Archmage's Charm, Mutavault and Subtlety, so you can save yourself $300. Yeah I guess that's true lol. Also seems less necessary when I can Aether Vault fish anyway Cactrot posted:What in the goddamn hell, that's insane. Yeah it's nuts
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GonSmithe posted:He's not talking about the wildcards you get, he's talking about the daily gold you are making from playing Arena exclusively. If you save your gold and draft you can very, very easily keep up with two or three Standard decks on Arena. The better you get at drafting the faster you'll build the decks you want. Even if you aren't good at draft, if you can push yourself to 3 wins you almost break even, and get to keep all of the cards you are drafting anyway. Oh I'm trying to do this! I think I managed three, maybe four, MID drafts before this latest set. Thank you for the help, I'll continue this method and hopefully get some traction. To confirm I should spend my wildcards to get all the commons and uncommons?
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Oh I'm trying to do this! I think I managed three, maybe four, MID drafts before this latest set. The rate at which excess dupes convert to Vault is 1000 commons or ~333 uncommons per single Vault, so only if you are absolutely drowning in c/u WCs should you do that.
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ilmucche posted:If I wasn't about to buy a tabernacle I'd want to build this fish deck. It looks like a lot of fun The mirror.
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mcmagic posted:1. Do all the quests to get coins Do you have a number on rare WC? Because sure commons and uncommons I don't usually have an issue, Mythics either (probably, I don't spend many) but how many rares did you have on VOW day, and how many decks did you build that day?
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HootTheOwl posted:Do you have a number on rare WC? I have something like 60rare WCs and 15 mythics right now but you have to remember I've been playing standard for a while on arena so I have most of the staples from previous sets so if I want to build a new deck or upgrade an existing deck i'm not just crafting everything at once. The more you play the easier it is to play which I guess is the point. I also just draft non stop the first week or so of a format until i'm sick of it or out of coins/gems so that gives me a head start getting the newer cards too because i'm getting rares in drafts and cracking prize packs.
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mcmagic posted:I have something like 60rare WCs and 15 mythics right now but you have to remember I've been playing standard for a while on arena so I have most of the staples from previous sets so if I want to build a new deck or upgrade an existing deck i'm not just crafting everything at once. The more you play the easier it is to play which I guess is the point. I also just draft non stop the first week or so of a format until i'm sick of it or out of coins/gems so that gives me a head start getting the newer cards too because i'm getting rares in drafts and cracking prize packs. Ok so between MID and VOW how many did you get
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HootTheOwl posted:Ok so between MID and VOW how many did you get I have no idea I'm not keeping track at that level.
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HootTheOwl posted:Ok so between MID and VOW how many did you get I used to track this, here's my results from ZNR Lone Goat posted:Happy
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