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Rebel Blob posted:It's important to remember that syphilis was always something to blame on those bloody foreigners. Ethiopia has no data and will never have data
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Rebel Blob posted:It's important to remember that syphilis was always something to blame on those bloody foreigners. I'm grandgore
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:I'm grandgore Did you ever see them when they went on tour with Persian Fire? That was an awesome concert.
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Typical, Nurgle the plague god gets no respect for his gift to all mankind. Ungrateful is what it is.
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Nov 15, 2021 02:29
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Rebel Blob posted:It's important to remember that syphilis was always something to blame on those bloody foreigners. It always seemed fitting that one of the rewards that European explorers got for raping the New World was an STD.
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By popular demand posted:Typical, Nurgle the plague god gets no respect for his gift to all mankind. Ungrateful is what it is. how many loving grandma's do you want Nurgle? Covid isn't enough for you?
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Cthulu Carl posted:It always seemed fitting that one of the rewards that European explorers got for raping the New World was an STD. STDs were the one place Europeans gave without wanting anything back
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Nov 15, 2021 02:37
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Rebel Blob posted:It's important to remember that syphilis was always something to blame on those bloody foreigners. I like that, despite centuries of rivalry and vitriol, nobody accused the English of being the source of an STD.
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Nov 15, 2021 02:52
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call the police on grandgore
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grandgore was my least favorite killer instinct character
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piL posted:I like that, despite centuries of rivalry and vitriol, nobody accused the English of being the source of an STD. English disease is usually rickets, cause of all the children living in the slums and working in the factories causing lack of vitamin D
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Most of Europe: *points fingers at France* France: it’s, uh, those damned Neapolitans!
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Cthulu Carl posted:It always seemed fitting that one of the rewards that European explorers got for raping the New World was an STD. Maybe. There’s been some interesting archæological finds of apparently syphilitic skeletons predating the Columbian Exchange.
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Platystemon posted:Maybe. In Europe or Asia? My understanding was that Syphilis developed in the Americas and is like one of the only diseases that went New World -> Europe, instead of the other way around like smallpox and all the other poo poo in those blankets and scurvy-riddled sailors.
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Cthulu Carl posted:In Europe or Asia? My understanding was that Syphilis developed in the Americas and is like one of the only diseases that went New World -> Europe, instead of the other way around like smallpox and all the other poo poo in those blankets and scurvy-riddled sailors. There’s no smoking gun yet, but the circumstantial evidence is building. There’s recently been groundbreaking DNA recovery of the bacteria itself, but the error bars on the dating of the human remains encompasses some post-Columbian time.
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piL posted:I like that, despite centuries of rivalry and vitriol, nobody accused the English of being the source of an STD. That would require admitting to loving an Englishperson.
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evil_bunnY posted:I've not ridden much in norway. denmark has a mix of colored asphalt and coatings, sweden has very few color-delimited cycle paths, and I've never seen red asphalt. In Åland the default color of asphalt is red, because of the local rock it's made from.
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ILL Machina posted:I was reminded (unsourced) that wolfsbane was used in early cancer treatments. Might be the correlation. back in this time, people conceived of cancerous tumors as a wolf eating its way through the body. like they knew that something was growing in the body, and it would grow through things you needed to be alive and destroy those things, so the tumor was like a tiny predator running loose in your body
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Wolframite, today known as the primary ore of tungsten, got its name because when it was found in tin mines, it was as though a wolf had consumed the tin. Miners didn’t know what this stuff was, but it was not tin and no value could be found in it.
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Raise the bridge? Lower the road? Or maybe there's a 3rd way? 
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:back in this time, people conceived of cancerous tumors as a wolf eating its way through the body. like they knew that something was growing in the body, and it would grow through things you needed to be alive and destroy those things, so the tumor was like a tiny predator running loose in your body thats dumb. Also being named cancer, means cancer is a crab and therefore needs to be seasoned with old bay and other seafood spice mixes.
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ekuNNN posted:OSHA: Kil'd by several accidents Servant: you've returned early, m'lord Lord: king's evil Servant: pardon? Lord: *loading a crossbow and getting back on the horse* king's evil
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PetraCore posted:I believe some people did believe him, and at least one doctor committed suicide at the realization that poor sanitation on his part contributed to patient deaths. The thing that was tricky is that Ignaz Semmelweis was talking about sanitizing instruments, not just cleaning them, and this was before germ theory, so many doctors got really offended at the idea they could be somehow doing something unclean when they'd clearly rinsed off all the dead guy chunks. And the only reason Semmelweis figured it out in the first place was because his city had two places where babies could be delivered, his hospital and a midwife clinic, and it was blatantly obvious that people going to the hospital died a lot more, to the point people would beg to just deliver in neither place if only the hospital was available. Well, as a doctor that's obviously pretty disturbing, but there was no at-the-time obvious reason for that to happen, so Semmelweis just started trying everything the midwife clinic did differently in small trials to see where the difference would kick in. Like, they were literally trying 'maybe if we position the women in the same way they position them at the midwife clinic' and 'maybe people are just dying of fright from hearing about all the deaths so we make it less obvious when people are dying' first. Yeah, the 'Semmelweis the tormented genius' thing is basically a myth, in the same way that columbus discovering the earth was round is a myth - in both cases these are people who believed something that was obviously false, who in have been mythologized and assigned modern beliefs instead of the ones the actually held, then treated as matyrs. For instance, people say he was talking about the disease being contagious, but Semmelweis' actual belief was specifically 'childbed fever is ONLY caused by pieces of corpses ('cadaverous particles') getting into women - so doctors who do dissections of cadavers spread it'. And he was pretty firm on the 'not contagious' thing, too. semmelweis posted:Childbed fever is not a contagious disease. A contagious disease is one that produces the contagion by which the disease is spread. This contagion brings about only the same disease in other individuals. . . .Smallpox causes only smallpox and no other disease. . . . Childbed fever is different” To which the medical establishment sensibly responded 'so why do we also see this disease in hospitals that don't do dissections, then?' To which his response was 'uuuuuuuuuuuuh?' And then they said 'well, this disease is known to come in outbreaks where a bunch of people get it and then nobody gets it, so we really need a bigger sample to prove anything, can we have more data'? In response, Semmelweis immediately and promptly... didn't publish any additional data for FOURTEEN YEARS. And during that time, there was another outbreak of childbed fever... in his handwashing ward. Having had his 'no corpse hands = no fever' theory disproven, Semmelweis revised his theory from 'cadaverous particles' being 'pieces of corpses', to 'things that can be produced inside living people as well', and blamed a lady on the same floor who had uterine cancer (given his lack of tact, probably with some comment like 'your poison womb is making the ICU too drat crowded'). Note that he wasn't even the first person to publish a paper saying 'hey maybe bad stuff on people's hands causes childbed fever', James Young Simpson published that theory ten years earlier - but he didn't say 'oh and that bad stuff is all corpse pieces and is the only way you get it' - making Semmelweis both late and wrong.
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Tunicate posted:Yeah, the 'Semmelweis the tormented genius' thing is basically a myth, in the same way that columbus discovering the earth was round is a myth - in both cases these are people who believed something that was obviously false, who in have been mythologized and assigned modern beliefs instead of the ones the actually held, then treated as matyrs. Great post! Finding out stuff is hard.
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minato posted:Raise the bridge? Lower the road? loled irl
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BTW James Young Simpson is pretty hilarious OHSA.txt on his own. Here's his discovery of chloroform, which he did by sitting around in his dining room huffing random chemicals with his friends.British Veterinary Journal and Annals of Comparative Pathology: Volume 50" posted:In January 1847 Simpson gained for the Edinburgh Medical School the proud distinction of being the scene of the first use of anæsthetics in obstetric practice. His acute mind, however, soon perceived the shortcomings of ether, and he could not rest satisfied until he had discovered something better to take its place. To this end he and his two assistants, Dr. George Keith and Dr. Matthews Duncan, night after night, spent hours in the dining-room of No. 52 Queen Street inhaling substance after substance. All the scientific curiosities were unearthed from the laboratories of chemists and tested; the enthusiastic invigorators sitting round the dining table and inhaling the drugs from tumblers and saucers, much we can imagine, to the alarm of the rest of the household.
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ekuNNN posted:OSHA: Kil'd by several accidents i'm making a videogame atm and this image is now my boss/miniboss name list
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Teeth470 is a name for a lovely punk band that sponsors as demolition derby car named Jaundies
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Cut of the Stone is a single by Mastodon
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a primate posted:Most of Europe: *points fingers at France* "Pangloss replied in these terms: 'O my dear Candide! you have known Paquette, that pretty attendant of our august Baroness; I have tasted in her arms the delights of paradise, which have produced these torments of hell of which you see me devoured; she was infected with it; she is, perhaps, dead of it. Paquette held this present from a very wise Franciscan monk who had ascended to the fountain head; for he had had it of an old countess, who had received it from a captain of cavalry, who owed it to a marchioness, who held it of a page, who had received it from a Jesuit, who, while a novice, had had it in direct line of one of the companions of Christopher Columbus. For me, I shall not give it to anybody, because I am dying.'
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EvenWorseOpinions posted:Cut of the Stone is a single by Mastodon Apparently cutting out kidney stones through the perineum was developed by the ancient Greeks. They referred to it as a lesser operation or 'apparatus parvus' since all you needed was a knife and a hook for it.
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His Divine Shadow posted:In Åland the default color of asphalt is red, because of the local rock it's made from. There’s a chunk of road on I-90 in western Montana, somewhere between Garrison and Missoula, where the aggregate they got to mix up the asphalt is a distinctly pink color. I dunno if they’ve paved over or torn it up since (haven’t been home for a few years), but it was noticeable for decades.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, as a prosecutor, you should never pick up the defendant's rifle during your closing arguments and point it at the jury with your finger on the trigger, even if a police officer has told you it's unloaded. Edit: Even worse, apparently he did pull the trigger. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Phanatic posted:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, as a prosecutor, you should never pick up the defendant's rifle during your closing arguments and point it at the jury with your finger on the trigger, even if a police officer has told you it's unloaded. Just a lil assault with a deadly weapon to drive my closing argument home.
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ekuNNN posted:OSHA: Kil'd by several accidents Man that infant mortality's no joke.
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Whenever is see these oldie things we find funny, I tried to imagine contemporary crap that'll sound hilarious in a couple of centuries. "Died of sepsis? And this one of 'old age'? Man, I'm sure glad I don't live in the times before rejuvenating bloodstream nanobots were invented."
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evil_bunnY posted:Man that infant mortality's no joke. Yeah, when you need to break infant deaths into 4 categories things are pretty grim.
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"Drowned? youre telling me there was enough water in one place it could kill you???"
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Phanatic posted:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that, as a prosecutor, you should never pick up the defendant's rifle during your closing arguments and point it at the jury with your finger on the trigger, even if a police officer has told you it's unloaded. otoh maybe putting a little fear of death into the jury would help them associate better with the
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Nenonen posted:As much as I hate seeing the dentist, that's definitely one reason to avoid time travel to previous centuries: healthcare was either dodgy or non-existent. And many folk remedies were just bonkers. "This plant looks remotely like the human organ your sickness is connected to, so you should it eat. Is the plant poisonous? Might be!" Jar, Lamp, Ham (  Oglaf)
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