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Boat Stuck posted:Widespread use of plastics japan is among the top 3 producers of plastics in the world, including the endocrine mimic stuff. least fat industrialized peeps nauru doesn't produce any plastics and doesn't use any more plastics than their wealth implies. fattest peeps on earth maybe the dose-response is hosed or something something genetics. but the mining and other resource extraction seems a crisp point-source effect
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bob dobbs is dead posted:if it was some huge complex of causes, it wouldn't have such a crisp beginning in the 70's, would it? in japan I used to order the largest size gyudon available at yoshinoya, it was only 1000 calories. I basically never saw anyone else order the large.
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Stink Billyums posted:in japan I used to order the largest size gyudon available at yoshinoya, it was only 1000 calories. I basically never saw anyone else order the large. the endocrine system determines your appetite. they have capitalism in japan too - if the japanese suddenly had american or saudi-sized appetites they would immediately go and make american or saudi-size portions available. it's a lagging indicator, not a determinant. they had sane-sized portions in 1950s america, too
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have you considered that people are eating more calories than their bodies expend
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didn't you just say 19th century americans were huge gluttons earlier in the thread
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bob dobbs is dead posted:if it was some huge complex of causes, it wouldn't have such a crisp beginning in the 70's, would it? Your latter point if anything seems to confirm it's a mishmash of environmental factors rather than a specific x/y/z is to blame thing, you have individuals that change the environment they're in a seem to "naturally" gain or lose weight in line with what matches to the general local population in their new environment. That could easily be explained by some combo of the food options and culture that encourages eating healthier/less calories and people moving around more in their day to day lives either through transportation differences or common local activities. Why it's not so "crisply" identifiable could readily be due to a mishmash of these things being hard to track. There very well could not be a "crisp" explanation ever and the best you'll ever see as wearable tech gets more and more advanced/common is that as obesity rates rise your average person is consuming more and moving less.
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Stink Billyums posted:didn't you just say 19th century americans were huge gluttons earlier in the thread absolutely. and they weren't fat. you would have 270 lb peeps paraded around as circus sideshows the ghrelin-leptin-incretin lipostat does its job well when it isn't being hosed up by pollutants. calories in minus calories out but the lipostat fucks with both calories in and out by like 1-5x depending upon endocrine set point bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 20:54
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runnypoops posted:Bring back fat shaming
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Nov 15, 2021 21:08
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Has anyone suggested placing treadmills in front of donuts hanging from strings???
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bob dobbs is dead posted:japan implemented both of those in the late 00's (really fat shaming long before and the metabo law, which includes collective fat shaming, in 2008) and they're still getting fatter. they aren't very fat compared to anyone else industrialized of course, but they're still fat compared to indigenous peeps - and gettin fatter Sadly metabo law is not a direct personal fine for being fat. Absolute top tier fat shaming though, someone give the Japanese government a sixer.
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Xaintrailles posted:Sadly metabo law is not a direct personal fine for being fat. Absolute top tier fat shaming though, someone give the Japanese government a sixer. its corporation-level. hence, 'collective'
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Meme Poker Party posted:Has anyone suggested placing treadmills in front of donuts hanging from strings??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nedFaAXm2BQ china is still getting rapidly fatter, esp. the resource extraction regions
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bob dobbs is dead posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nedFaAXm2BQ How fat are you? You sound like that maniac here who believes it is literally impossible for an individual to lose weight without surgical intervention.
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Has anyone posted, "mandatory cooking and nutrition classes and mandatory gym memberships with required usage for all Americans" yet?
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frogge posted:Has anyone posted, "mandatory cooking and nutrition classes and mandatory gym memberships with required usage for all Americans" yet? I’m still pretty salty that food education in kindergarten+ was pure propaganda, and the “food pyramid” is bullshit.
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Nov 15, 2021 21:59
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Has anyone considered that maybe we're not getting heavier, maybe gravity is just getting stronger?
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we could scare them so they run until they get skinny
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Perfect self-driving car technology so that American's can eat on the go and not waste precious calories driving to the drive-thru.
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Flowers for QAnon posted:How fat are you? You sound like that maniac here who believes it is literally impossible for an individual to lose weight without surgical intervention. bmi 24, previously 29 you may or may not be able to individually lose weight with diet and exercise or whatever, but we have not one example of a population of peeps losing clinically relevant weight with diet and exercise and keeping it off. all we have for examples for clinically relevant-sized weight loss is cases of material societal collapse (syria, venezuela) and endocrine treatments there are 2 billion peeps who got fat over the last 50 years. you cannot solve a problem of 2 billion peeps by individualized alienated behavioral stuff bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Probably through systematic and permanent lifestyle changes, op
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Nov 15, 2021 22:14
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Was this thread made in response to the fat girl thread? That be pretty cool
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and for the record, i dont believe in any of that health at any size bullcrap. we need to figure out how to get the incretin agonists made for like a dollar a shot and distribute em to 2 billion peeps a week and eventually figure out the exact pollutants and whack them
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anorexic models are banned but tess holliday gets to pretend shes anorexic while being 400 pounds. we could start there with her Health At Every Size lies
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bob dobbs is dead posted:and for the record, i dont believe in any of that health at any size bullcrap. we need to figure out how to get the incretin agonists made for like a dollar a shot and distribute em to 2 billion peeps a week and eventually figure out the exact pollutants and whack them I'm technically obese and if peeps became the only food option, I would waste away into nothing and ultimately starve to death because peeps are loving disgusting
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YeahTubaMike posted:I'm technically obese and if peeps became the only food option, I would waste away into nothing and ultimately starve to death because peeps are loving disgusting let em get real stale first 
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Don't let them eat cake.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:and for the record, i dont believe in any of that health at any size bullcrap. we need to figure out how to get the incretin agonists made for like a dollar a shot and distribute em to 2 billion peeps a week and eventually figure out the exact pollutants and whack them Great to hear you aren’t as insane as your posting frequency/enthusiasm would indicate. What makes you so passionate about this topic?
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Flowers for QAnon posted:Great to hear you aren’t as insane as your posting frequency/enthusiasm would indicate. What makes you so passionate about this topic? i did leptin research back in high school along w/ catestatin poo poo. one day my old pi emailed me "gently caress! gently caress! it was glp1 after all!" w the stage 2 dealio for liraglutide
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bob dobbs is dead posted:i did leptin research back in high school What does this mean though?
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Forty-one percent of children claimed that bacon came from a plant. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272494421001584 
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numberoneposter posted:Forty-one percent of children claimed that bacon came from a plant. bacon comes from pork trees
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Flowers for QAnon posted:What does this mean though? it means i was a grad students lab mook for a year, then i was the pi's direct lab mook for a year, then he wrote me a great rec letter for undergrad. we also did an insignificant paper at a lovely journal
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bananas. lots of bananas. 70 bananas a day.
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So the American Dream is so comfortable that everyone is getting fat and lazy? Oh no someone sound the alarm. Life is so awesome that it's becoming a loving CRISIS
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Well, I don't have a WHOLE plan yet, but I'll tell you what the first step would be... 1) PUT DOWN THE FORK!
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Vietnamwees posted:Well, I don't have a WHOLE plan yet, but I'll tell you what the first step would be... Don't need a fork for chikky tendies and fries
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