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the real problem is greta thunberg has been elevated to importance by the system that serves the very people she wishes to criticize. this is not accidental. meanwhile, other climate activists continue to be ignored, imprisoned, and murdered
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Nov 15, 2021 19:41
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lol yeah its not a coincidence the media portrays climate activism using a powerless screaming girl
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Nov 15, 2021 19:43
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Perry Mason Jar posted:If you are "learning and growing" you should be quiet until you've finished. Dumbest sentence i have ever read
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Nov 15, 2021 19:47
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Well if you don't then don't start crying when people critique you? I mean I was replying to a post about criticism of the learning and growing - let me restate: if you are "learning and growing" then you should invite criticism or else shut up if you don't want to be criticized. Fair?
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Nov 15, 2021 19:54
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"they might not have a completely firm grasp" and "she doesn't have a firm grasp on what she's talking about" are two entirely different things so i'm going to suggest you stopPerry Mason Jar posted:If you are "learning and growing" you should be quiet until you've finished. boooooooo Perry Mason Jar posted:Well if you don't then don't start crying when people critique you? I mean I was replying to a post about criticism of the learning and growing - let me restate: if you are "learning and growing" then you should invite criticism or else shut up if you don't want to be criticized. Fair? stop
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Nov 15, 2021 19:56
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lol typical e; lmao
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Nov 15, 2021 19:58
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Perry Mason Jar posted:If you are "learning and growing" you should be quiet until you've finished. If you aren't quiet it's fair to assume that you're sufficiently confident in your Good Politics, enough that you can make a robust defense of it. She's not a victim!! No one ordered or forced her to have the world's attention on her or anything like that. And if someone did well we can only assume that she'd cry for help, no? shut the gently caress up
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Nov 15, 2021 19:59
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for whatever reason, what greta says seems to have captured the imaginations of a few people I know and they’ve taken more of an interest in our collapse and considered what it is going to mean to them beyond the mild inconveniences they’ve experienced so far. the people I’m talking about would read the bad news as it appeared and were broadly aware of the issues already, so there’s something about the emotional force she’s able to project that makes the connections more visible to a lot of people. greta’s crack-pinging is happening faster than I expected and it’s good for the people who identified with her cause it gives them license to crack, too. it would have been more lucrative (and more probable) to take NGO money and say I loving Love Science, Cope! if that had happened I think some of these folks would have tuned out, but they did hear the “green new deal / build back better bla bla bla” and it’s like someone gave them permission to crack and move on to a newer stage where they picture in much greater detail what the future holds for them. many will probably conclude that they, personally, will be better off than everyone else and strive to maintain that. but some of these otherwise aggressively normal folks are picking up andreas malm or are more interested in understanding the responsibility of the corporations in all this, which is a little clearer for them to identify in our Post 2020 World. i think a lot of people just don’t process the media very well without having a subject to observe and project onto, which is probably not unusual at all in human cognition. most of the climate stuff in the media before was really boring poo poo and charts that make you feel personally bad about yourself over things you don’t have that much control over.
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Nov 15, 2021 20:08
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Rime posted:All of these slides were caused by clearcutting and sidehilling work building the TMX pipeline expansion. God this is a good news post - Stop loving driving - Leave the tar in the ground - gently caress you Canadian mining Mameluke has issued a correction as of 20:20 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 20:13
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mawarannahr posted:for whatever reason, what greta says seems to have captured the imaginations of a few people I know and they’ve taken more of an interest in our collapse and considered what it is going to mean to them beyond the mild inconveniences they’ve experienced so far. the people I’m talking about would read the bad news as it appeared and were broadly aware of the issues already, so there’s something about the emotional force she’s able to project that makes the connections more visible to a lot of people. I think 'greta's crack' would be an awesome user/ band name lol
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Nov 15, 2021 20:20
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Trainee PornStar posted:I think 'greta's crack' would be an awesome user/ band name lol Trainee PornStar lol
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Nov 15, 2021 20:22
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Uncle Teddy's one weird trick for realizing that goals are the problem E; like if you think that his intent was to save society or that he was unaware of class antagonisms idk what to make of you. It's clear that he considers class secondary to technology and ease of living (energy access) in determining behavior, that he considers it inevitable, and that he knows he's an ape in a cage flinging his own poo poo out of lack of better options. Car Hater has issued a correction as of 20:41 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 20:26
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Everyone is taking climate seriously now! So the fossil fuel industry sent hundreds of lobbyists to both the pre-parties in Milan and the parties in Glasgow where desperate representatives of poor nations that are being destroyed showed up en masse to try and desperately demand action and resources to all of the rich nations showing up en masse to pretend they give a poo poo and give speeches at THE MOST IMPORTANT CLIMATE CONFERENCE EVER. I heard an npr interview with John Kerry and they played a clip of someone begging for the assistance agreed upon a decade ago and then John Kerry clapped back I hope that person isn’t blaming me for Donald trump going back on the deal for the last few years 
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Nov 15, 2021 21:18
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I was an ignorant shithead that supported the Iraq war when I was 18. Greta is doing very well for her age, it's not too late for her to turn into Eco-Stalin
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Nov 15, 2021 21:26
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holy poo poo, i knew it was bad but rip british columbia https://globalnews.ca/news/8374331/bc-flooding-mudslides-highways-evacuations/ quote:A reminder to drivers Monday morning that all major east-west routes in and out of the Lower Mainland remain closed. https://twitter.com/BCTrucker1/status/1460056034169397250?s=20
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Nov 15, 2021 21:40
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https://twitter.com/TenseEye/status/1460072785120620544?s=20 lol we aren't doing poo poo, my friend. buckle up. edit: https://twitter.com/ThierryGooseBC/status/1460344787563737093?s=20 daaaaamn Cold on a Cob has issued a correction as of 21:47 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 21:41
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kater posted:I heard an npr interview with John Kerry and they played a clip of someone begging for the assistance agreed upon a decade ago and then John Kerry clapped back I hope that person isn’t blaming me for Donald trump going back on the deal for the last few years Oh man did they run the trump poo poo into the ground. Obama keeps talking about how America is back.... to the worthless paris accords we've never been close to keeping to even during his Oil Baron Administration I hope the world realizes that all pollution and policies before COP26 were Donald Trump's fault and you just need to give Oil Baron Biden time
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Nov 15, 2021 22:06
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Enfys posted:love going to work and pretending things are normal
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Nov 15, 2021 22:39
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i accidentally got a job in australian politics so it's been brought home to me exactly how much the people who should be focusing on climate change, are focusing on everything but climate change. the right wing is still either in full denial or blaming it all on china. the left wing, who are meant to be the ones caring about this type of thing, are either hyper-fixated on stupid "solutions" (we just need 90% of the population to go pure vegan and everything will be fine!) or they just keep saying "renewable energy! renewable energy! renewable energy!" without any effort whatsoever toward actually talking to the renewable energy industry, understanding the technology, or working out the massive cultural and commercial shifts that are needed to transition from coal to whatever their favourite non-coal power source is. it's just idiots talking at each other all the way down, agreeing that someone needs to do something without doing anything, meanwhile business continues exactly as usual. working in this environment is maddening, especially as i've landed in a party that's exclusively upper middle class whites who only care about yoga and almond milk and keeping their salaries.
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Nov 15, 2021 22:46
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https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1460353164151078917?s=20
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Nov 15, 2021 22:55
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Cold on a Cob posted:he's also turbo-racist as hell, fyi I was being tongue in cheek. I know his class analysis is lacking, I did read something he said about effeminate socialists being as bad as the fascists. Did not know he was turbo-racist. Other than that didn't know much about him, except he was an intelligent mathematician who got drugged by the CIA, tried live in a woods but kept get pushed away by logging camps and after the nth time he moved he decided to fight back by sending mailbombs.
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Nov 15, 2021 23:02
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Marenghi posted:I was being tongue in cheek. I know his class analysis is lacking, I did read something he said about effeminate socialists being as bad as the fascists. Did not know he was turbo-racist. no worries, just don't want people to idolize him uncritically fwiw i should go back and read what he wrote again because i formed those opinions a long time ago edit: to be more specific, i recall that he's very much anti-liberal in a way that can sound appealing at times but he has a lot of hot takes about black people and how useful a race war would be for destroying industrial society Cold on a Cob has issued a correction as of 23:12 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 23:07
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Rectal Death Adept posted:i had an unexpected long commute today and NPR seemed really insistent that COPE26 or whatever is our last best hope
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Nov 15, 2021 23:40
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Milo and POTUS posted:So has this happened enough that we can start splitting the seasons up into fire season and mudslide season or do we need more The PNW isn't quite there but in a decade or two, assuming trees are still a thing..... Thorn Wishes Talon posted:so what are the thread's thoughts on greta? A convenient punching bag for those who fetishize decorum.
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Nov 15, 2021 23:43
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Merritt has ordered a citywide evacuation due to the flooding https://www.merritt.ca/cityfloodingevacuationorder/  rip BC
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Nov 15, 2021 23:59
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Cold on a Cob posted:https://twitter.com/TenseEye/status/1460072785120620544?s=20 This is a great photo from the Coquihalla highway 
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Nov 16, 2021 00:17
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i reckon' that should be fixed in a couple days
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Nov 16, 2021 00:25
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:i accidentally got a job in australian politics lol rip is there a green party anywhere in the world that isn't somewhere on the "captured - neutered" spectrum?
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Nov 16, 2021 00:26
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PNW is one of my favorite areas in the entire world and I moved here for the mild weather and beautiful forests. Feels depressing that it's changing so rapidly already. It didn't take 50,000 years or even 50 years. In less than a decade the climate misery has become catastrophic. The region used to be projected as more safe and stable than most of North America during climate change lol.
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Nov 16, 2021 00:30
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agreed, I thought the same thing and reality is very lol
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Nov 16, 2021 00:32
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betting on high gas prices does seem pretty safe these days
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Nov 16, 2021 00:33
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RIP Syndrome posted:Is that methane accounted for anywhere? I noticed Biden wanted to cap the old gas wells, so if it got/gets passed, it'd presumably be in the US emissions reduction column (also convenient because it doubles as a jobs program/stimulus). If the methane emissions weren't accounted for beforehand, that's more emissions reduction you'd get "for free". But I don't really know. Is that methane accounted for anywhere? Yes. Is that methane accounted for everywhere? Hell no. So you have to loving check each and every figure or number cited to see. And that’s not getting into the different GWP estimates (some older ones are much more optimistic than we now know) Or different leakage rates on the transmissions/distribution systems. You add it all up and depending on specifics it is entirely possible that one natural gas plant on a particularly leaky part of the system could be worse for than a coal plant of the same size. (Note, that’s just climate. Coal sucks rear end in other ways that NG doesn’t like particulates)
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Nov 16, 2021 00:34
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eating Arby's rn to celebrate mudslide season
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Nov 16, 2021 00:35
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gimme my solar shade and dome
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Nov 16, 2021 00:45
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There was just a massive mudslide on i5 north of Seattle but south of bellingham. One of the only roads into Canada in this area. https://twitter.com/wspd7pio/status/1460363399368351747?t=KVGIwlLgkyBPBdvPvPaRHg&s=19 Also towns under water in WA https://twitter.com/RandySmall/status/1460300574797164546?t=pqIFSJBDeE-NPkEc40l1yw&s=19 Reaping. gently caress yeah
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Nov 16, 2021 00:48
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Hey, good news is this has to be good for the droughts 
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Nov 16, 2021 00:49
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silicone thrills posted:
im dying for some rear end too
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Nov 16, 2021 00:53
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There's foreboding clouds over Seattle again, ready to loving drench. My body is ready. Take my house and me down into the ravine.
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Nov 16, 2021 00:55
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It's actually sunny right now, at least in U district
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Nov 16, 2021 00:58
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Whoa double post
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