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Jeremiah Flintwick posted:Holy poo poo you people are prickly. This must be what it's like posting in the dnd climate thread. by popping in to let us know you think it's not a reasonable possibility life from elsewhere in the universe has visited us you're demonstrating you absolutely haven't been reading the thread. if you had, you'd have known your boring-rear end michael shermer level take wouldn't be greeted with open arms. it's basically threadshitting and the thread regulars are pretty loving sick of skeptic wannabes wandering in here trying to be the smartest and most reasonable guy in the room i'm not saying we know anything for sure, but we've been over this argument a number of times. if you'd taken the time to read previous iterations of this conversation, maybe you'd come with some kind of refutation for things like von neumann probes...? also please never compare us to dnd again. i tried posting in the dnd ufo thread once and it was filled with dudes like you just lining up to suck off mick west and whoever else was appropriately smug and condescending
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Nov 15, 2021 22:24
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Blarghalt posted:the mark of a sapient species is wanting to probe human butts. the asses of humanity, specifically also taking anal cores from cows
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Nov 15, 2021 22:24
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It's true, I deny the saggitarian genocide.
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Nov 15, 2021 22:25
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Spergin Morlock posted:also taking anal cores from cows the secret of advanced hyperdrive lay in the rectums of bovines
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Nov 15, 2021 22:26
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Nov 15, 2021 22:26
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a virgin birthed a boy who grew up to die and come back to life again 3 days later, but not really alive but ascended to heaven. we eat him regularly in a cannibalism ritual but its really crackers and wine - normal & mainstream, widely believed thought people seem awfully intuitive, even in situations where they shouldn't really have any information to intuit from - crazy person thinking, probably should be medicated
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Nov 15, 2021 22:27
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if your very first post in a 479 page thread is this:Jeremiah Flintwick posted:Actually it's mostly believers in alien visitation that cite the fermi paradox when arguing the government is concealing knowledge of such. The skeptical position is precisely what you're saying- there is no paradox due to the vastness of the universe and the difficulty of communicating or traveling across that vastness. If there was only one intelligent species in each galaxy, that would mean billions of civilizations with zero chance of contact. then you are in fact the smug prick what did you think that post was going to accomplish? did you sincerely think you were bringing fresh ideas to any of us? learn to read before engaging in the future if you actually want a serious response, because there is no indication at all at this time that you are a serious individual worthy of any attention beyond picking on you for being a dumbshit
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Nov 15, 2021 22:29
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Delta-Wye posted:a virgin birthed a boy who grew up to die and come back to life again 3 days later, but not really alive but ascended to heaven. we eat him regularly in a cannibalism ritual but its really crackers and wine - normal & mainstream, widely believed thought in the mormon church they use tap water instead of wine because alcohol is forbidden
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Nov 15, 2021 22:32
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And for the majority of Christians, it's not really crackers and wine. Catholics specifically go for transubstantiation where it is actually the body and blood, as a Lutheran I was taught the body and blood are "in, with, and under" the bread and wine, and physically present as well. My Confirmation teacher had a hard time explaining the difference to me, but was quite clear that they are not the same thing. Only a minority of Protestants do not believe in the physical presence at all.
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Nov 15, 2021 22:37
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Azathoth posted:Granted, we don't have a way to know if some species from Earth's past developed sentience but didn't then leverage it into a civilization that would leave evidence in the archaeological record. However, it's pretty clear that we have gone from just another species on the planet to what we are now in a remarkably short amount of time, geologically speaking. There's no reason timewise or environment-wise that other species could not have undergone the same development, they just seem to have not done so and we don't have a good reason why not. Like the fermi "paradox", this is still too strongly worded and assumes that if there were past industrial civilizations on planet Earth that we would have conclusively found that by now. Like space, the archaeological record is vast, mostly unexplored, and difficult to probe. The Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum is a pretty suggestive bump:  https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...B8F4339F7C70EC6 quote:There are undoubted similarities between previous abrupt events in the geological record and the likely Anthropocene signature in the geological record to come. Negative, abrupt δ 13C excursions, warmings and disruptions of the nitrogen cycle are ubiquitous. More complex changes in biota, sedimentation and mineralogy are also common. Specifically, compared with the hypothesized Anthropocene signature, almost all changes found so far for the PETM are of the same sign and comparable magnitude. Some similarities would be expected if the main effect during any event was a significant global warming, however caused. Furthermore, there is evidence at many of these events that warming was driven by a massive input of exogeneous (biogenic) carbon, either as CO2 or CH4. At least since the Carboniferous (300–350 Ma), there has been sufficient fossil carbon to fuel an industrial civilization comparable with our own and any of these sources could provide the light carbon input. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene%E2%80%93Eocene_Thermal_Maximum
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Nov 15, 2021 22:40
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rickshaw throwing out the correct breadcrumbs love to see it
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Nov 15, 2021 22:48
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Nov 15, 2021 23:10
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My fiancée was at home today and the lights flickered and she heard a mechanical hum coming from the oven and all the large metal objects in the kitchen. She went outside and looked out the sky and there were glowing lights in the sky swirling in the wind She immediately called me after the sighting and told me that “birds dont shine with light like that right?” So was it ball lighting or Birds?
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Nov 15, 2021 23:29
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I spend every other minute of every hour not in this thread drowned by the crushing indifference of realistic pragmatism and the science of reality telling us how the world is going to burn down, tip over, and sink into the swamp I don't think anyone in here is unfamiliar with the rational perspective of the world, but that's not what makes the UFO thread fun
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Nov 15, 2021 23:30
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The Vinja Ninja posted:My fiancée was at home today and the lights flickered and she heard a mechanical hum coming from the oven and all the large metal objects in the kitchen. i dunno i wasnt there
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Nov 15, 2021 23:31
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Had a speculative space related thought, enough of the military-industrial complex thinks the dark forest rule is prescriptive. So they just start blowing up their own satellites before foreign powers blow up theirs.
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Nov 15, 2021 23:32
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I spend every other minute of every hour not in this thread drowned by the crushing indifference of realistic pragmatism and the science of reality telling us how the world is going to burn down, tip over, and sink into the swamp This is kinda how I feel.. Every time I hear some exciting news, I take a deep breath & remind myself the world is too mundane for that.
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Nov 15, 2021 23:37
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I spend every other minute of every hour not in this thread drowned by the crushing indifference of realistic pragmatism and the science of reality telling us how the world is going to burn down, tip over, and sink into the swamp For real, just have a good time and kick back and post about fun science stuff and/or birds
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Nov 15, 2021 23:49
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The Vinja Ninja posted:My fiancée was at home today and the lights flickered and she heard a mechanical hum coming from the oven and all the large metal objects in the kitchen. 
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Nov 15, 2021 23:52
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new Lue's Clue https://twitter.com/Akam1129/status/1460390960836263943?s=20
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Nov 16, 2021 00:47
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:new Lue's Clue impossible. mick west told me it was all birds?
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Nov 16, 2021 00:59
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I’m the real mad guy about ufos
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Nov 16, 2021 01:05
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Jeremiah Flintwick posted:How so? Stronger claims require stronger evidence. You didn't ask for evidence, you claimed the possibility of alien technology visiting Earth is inherently unreasonable. quote:There is an immense gulf between "aliens exist" and "aliens have visited earth". The former is reasonable, the latter is not
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Nov 16, 2021 01:06
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Rickshaw posted:Like the fermi "paradox", this is still too strongly worded and assumes that if there were past industrial civilizations on planet Earth that we would have conclusively found that by now. Like space, the archaeological record is vast, mostly unexplored, and difficult to probe. *bangs table* silurian hypothesis! *flips table, shits on floor* silurian hypothesis!!!
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Nov 16, 2021 01:21
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Mola Yam posted:*bangs table* hell, even in our little span of existence, how many Antikythera mechanisms and library of Alexandrias have we lost
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Nov 16, 2021 01:27
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we only know t rex existed from the fossils of ~30 individuals. out of an estimated 2.5 billion that were alive. one in 80 million chance to even know about them, let alone any details about behaviour etc. people are not equipped by default to conceptually grasp denominators like "ten million years" or "one hundred thousand light years", so you get absence of evidence = evidence of absence conclusions where they really shouldn't apply. and a lot of the time "absence of evidence" isn't even true to begin with
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Nov 16, 2021 01:38
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Going to try the hemisync poo poo again, but I still have that thought about accidentally mkultraing myself.
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Nov 16, 2021 01:55
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is this "Monroe hemisync gateway experience" the thing I should be trying, and can it be listened to while doing repetitive physical activity like running on a treadmill or is it important to close your eyes in a quiet place while doing nothing else or somesuch
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Nov 16, 2021 02:02
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e: evidence of absence
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Nov 16, 2021 02:03
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poisonpill posted:is there some place to access such files There are lossless flac files on what you might call a cove where Johnny Depp could be found.
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Nov 16, 2021 02:15
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D-Pad posted:There are lossless flac files on what you might call a cove that Johnny Depp would be found. some sort of marauder's lagoon?
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Nov 16, 2021 02:16
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I wonder if the Greys invented peer to peer file sharing
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Nov 16, 2021 02:18
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:some sort of marauder's lagoon? A freebooter's estuary
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Nov 16, 2021 02:18
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bootlegger's fjord
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Nov 16, 2021 02:22
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aaaaye, the ol' swedish flea market
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Nov 16, 2021 02:26
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Moist nussy
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Nov 16, 2021 02:28
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Mola Yam posted:we only know t rex existed from the fossils of ~30 individuals. out of an estimated 2.5 billion that were alive. one in 80 million chance to even know about them, let alone any details about behaviour etc. Weeeell, 32 reasonably complete skeletons. But they shed teeth by the bucket load so there are scads of other individuals represented (plus all of the incomplete fossils from T. rex). Hell, I've collected several myself. Similarly, we only knew Troodon from teeth for the longest time before a skull and associated bones were found. So, there are degrees of "known" at play here before you get into issues population dynamics, trophic structure, inferred numbers alive through time (which I am skeptical of btw), etc. On the other hand, an geologically instantaneous event, the end Cretaceous meteor strike, has scads of evidence: glass impact droplets, a chemical residue in a centimeters-thick layer of rock, etc. Eventually the crater itself was found as well. This aside of the rapid changeover of fossil taxa. So, whereas I am very concerned about resolution in the fossil record, suggesting that something like time traveling squid or whatever were present despite there being no evidence and passing that lack of evidence off to the poor fossil record is ad hoc reasoning. Are time traveling squid or whatever possible? I mean I guess I can imagine it, but that's all it is at this point. Should I find mysterious evidence for industrial activity in the fossil record (and there are very clear signals for timing of industrialization in the anthropocene sediments) that would at least be something. So don't argue this point too strongly either is my point. Absence of evidence indicating evidence of absence is not strong argumentation but its a reasonable starting point.
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Nov 16, 2021 02:47
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somebody say troodon?
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Nov 16, 2021 02:51
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poisonpill posted:is there some place to access such files I should probably put my mod hat on and politely request that people not directly ask for links to copyrighted materials. No threats or nothing, just that things like that are something that can bring legit heat down on the forums, so I gotta step in here. Okay, hat back off.
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my bony fealty posted:somebody say troodon? They dress the dinosauroid up and hide him in the collections in Ottawa from time to time to spook visiting scientists, new staff, etc. I got a pic taken with him when he was in his Krispy Kreme employees outfit
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