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mlmp08 posted:Well, the Swedish government tried to extradite him for molestation and sexual assault and were succeeding until he claimed asylum in an embassy. He managed to outlast the statute of limitations, right? Depending on where the alleged crime occurred, the extradition process might have tolled the SoL. Dude is actively avoiding going to court so…
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pantslesswithwolves posted:It's a travesty that it took a bunch of coddled White treason aficionados complaining in order to get any kind of action on this, but as we've discussed repeatedly, neglect and abuse should not be a part of anyone's pre-trial confinement or actual sentence regardless of their crime. I'm sure it'll feature prominently in their "brave" memoirs of their "Struggle" as political prisoners in "Woke America."  (and no, I'm not implying they deserve to be held in deplorable conditions, I'm just stating the demonstrated *fact* that any/everything gets turned into proof of persecution with this sort)
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Jesus Christ some of you really bought the bullshit. I can assure you that the US has expending millions on lawyers and bagmen to find every angle to defend what they did to Assange, you don’t need to help, the US Gov is not going after him because he’s an annoying weirdo or alleged rapist. It’s because he played a key role in humiliating the intelligence community and now we’ve set the precedent that this is okay. The fact that he’s facing 175 years in solitary for just publishing leaks like journalists have done for ages should loving terrify you. There’s a lot of lovely things associated with Wikileaks and what they choose to emphasize and their opsec in some cases but loving Christ I have a bigger issue with the CIA having free reign to burn down anyone’s life who makes them look stupid or exposes inconvenient war crimes. Butter Activities fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Nov 16, 2021 |
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Nov 16, 2021 01:11
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Wasn’t a lot of leaks just exposing informants endangering them and their families?
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Nov 16, 2021 01:35
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never tweet https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1460405707568726022
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Nov 16, 2021 01:44
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gently caress Elon I hope he loses
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Nov 16, 2021 02:13
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Bored As gently caress posted:gently caress Elon I hope he loses
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Nov 16, 2021 02:22
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Bored As gently caress posted:gently caress Elon I hope he loses
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Nov 16, 2021 02:24
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I don't know what that means, but gently caress Elon.
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Nov 16, 2021 02:26
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Stultus Maximus posted:I don't know what that means, but gently caress Elon. 
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That Works posted:https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1460334367755096070?s=20 https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1460325977586872326 NICE!
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The JP Morgan/Tesla suit is going to go in JP Morgan's favor. What's sad is that this should be a trivial suit for Tesla to pay - after all they're a trillion dollar company and the suit is for $162m. No company should waste money litigating over a suit that is less than 0.2% of the company's value.
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Bored As gently caress posted:gently caress Elon I hope he loses
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Hey hey hey, maybe give elon a break. He made some really decent child coffins for those stuck kids back in the day.
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Here's the tl:dr; of the lawsuit: JP Morgan has contract with Tesla for a lot of 2021 warrants - that is contracts for shares. The warrants were only valid if the stock went above a certain price, which it is many multiples of. The dispute hinges around Musk's dumbshit going private at $420 tweet. This triggered certain contractual parts of the warrant agreement because it was a material statement regarding a change in ownership. JP Morgan notified Tesla pursuant to the contract, and Tesla said "nuh uh." When it came time to settle up, Tesla balked at paying out what they owed. As a result, JP Morgan had to go buy 227k shares of Tesla on the open market ($162m worth). Tesla now owes them that money plus attorneys fees. They had to buy the shares to close out short positions held by other clients. The shorts were sold based upon the contract that Tesla is welching on. The thing is, they could have easily just given JP Morgan the shares. My guess is Elon refused because it was going to short sellers. I'm pretty sure Tesla is gonna have to pay their bills.
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Crab Dad posted:Wasn’t a lot of leaks just exposing informants endangering them and their families? Possibly. Probably. Wikileaks definitely endangered their own sources, hacker Phineas Phisher almost got screwed by them since Wikileaks started publishing stuff she sent them in the middle of the operation. Assange is probably a pretty garbage person, Wikileaks is not a very trustworthy organization when it comes to how they operate, (though you generally can trust that the leaks are authentic) and if I was a leaker I would probably trust Bellingcat more than Wikileaks unless it was directly about the CIA or high levels of the US gov or whatnot. But again, that’s not why he’s charged. The government leaks poo poo like that by accident my or on purpose all the time. He’s being charged as a spy and traitor, when he by every measure was a journalist and foreign national.
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facialimpediment posted:To follow-up on what was posted earlier, it appears that the prosecutor and judge are having a dumb-off in the Rittenhouse trial and the judge was actually right. Turns out I was wrong myself earlier, and it's a case of law-makers not knowing how to write law. https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/11/13/kyle-rittenhouse-gun-charge/ quote:(c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593.
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I'm reading the complaint and holy goddamn christ how stupid do you have to be to sell stock options to someone while also giving them unilateral authority to change the strike price
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:When it comes to Brown Moses it’s more that he had a consistent track record of steering everything in a pro-NATO “we’re like Wikileaks but not Putin shills like those guys”
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Can we just jump right to the point where these people take themselves off in to the jungle and start drinking Flavor-Aid? Would save the rest of us so, so much trouble.
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bird food bathtub posted:Can we just jump right to the point where these people take themselves off in to the jungle and start drinking Flavor-Aid? Would save the rest of us so, so much trouble. Just make the post
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What I wouldn't give for an ice storm to hit Dallas right now. I hope they decide to hang out until March rolls around.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Can you point to this "pro-NATO" content Bellingcat has put out? Reporting on the Russian-facilitated shootdown of a passenger airliner? Reporting on GRU assassination campaigns in Europe? Reporting on use of chemical weapons and ethnic cleansing by Assadist forces in Syria? Reporting on US nuclear secrets being leaked via people unthinkingly leaving study flashcards publicly visible online? Reporting on Saudi-UAE bombing of civilians in Yemen? bellingcat primarily reports on intelligence and security, and some of that reporting is useful in support of us foreign policy. it's not unreasonable to think that they've received information from intelligence community sources or that the intelligence community has facilitated access to sources. bellingcat can serve as a useful laundry for stories intelligence services want to leak, same as wikileaks. they've got an impressive level of access to particular domestic Russian sources for such a young, not Russian organization, if nothing else this isn't to say their reporting is inaccurate, but like any media, it's important to think about what colors their biases
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CMYK BLYAT! posted:this isn't to say their reporting is inaccurate, but like any media, it's important to think about what colors their biases
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Cugel the Clever posted:Can you point to this "pro-NATO" content Bellingcat has put out? Reporting on the Russian-facilitated shootdown of a passenger airliner? Reporting on GRU assassination campaigns in Europe? Reporting on use of chemical weapons and ethnic cleansing by Assadist forces in Syria? Reporting on US nuclear secrets being leaked via people unthinkingly leaving study flashcards publicly visible online? Reporting on Saudi-UAE bombing of civilians in Yemen? I think you’re ignoring what I’m actually saying. Plenty of people under the umbrella of Bellingcat, some of it not flattering to the US and it’s allies and have put out good information. But the same thing could be said for Wikileaks and Russia, yet somehow they’re still a GRU op, even though I don’t believe they’ve ever been openly funded. It’s also ridiculous to suggest that Wikileaks hasn’t also somehow been influenced by Russian intelligence. Bellingcat absolutely has. It’s not a secret that the National Endowment For Democracy gave them money. Higgins denied it a while back but now openly admits it. If you don’t think leadership and funding sources matter in journalism than I don’t want to tell you. https://mronline.org/2021/04/12/how-bellingcat-launders-national-security-state-talking-points-into-the-press/
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Anyway “SHOW ME THE ARTICLE THAT PROVES THE BIAS” is an impossible ask and I think you know that.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:I think you’re ignoring what I’m actually saying. Plenty of people under the umbrella of Bellingcat, some of it not flattering to the US and it’s allies and have put out good information. The article you linked originally ran on MintPressNews, which is a conspiratorial site which has run truther articles about the 2013 sarin attacks in Damascus and has never disclosed where its own funding came from.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:The article you linked originally ran on MintPressNews, which is a conspiratorial site which has run truther articles about the 2013 sarin attacks in Damascus and has never disclosed where its own funding came from. Fair enough, about the article as a whole but here’s Elliot Higgins saying it: https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1213210086144905217?s=21 Bellingcat is exactly as much of a “NATO shill” as Wikileaks is a “GRU shill.” Which I would say “kinda but not really.” Wanting people reporting in either of them to face effectively a death sentence for reporting on the crimes of the powerful is extremely bad. Nobody should be celebrating what happened to Assange. Funny this exact same narrative some of you have bought about Wikileaks is being repeated word for word in Russian press about Bellingcat being nothing but a cutout.
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What, if any, differences do you see in the way these two organizations operate?
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shame on an IGA posted:I'm reading the complaint and holy goddamn christ how stupid do you have to be to sell stock options to someone while also giving them unilateral authority to change the strike price It's not uncommon at all, and Tesla was desperate for the money so they took whatever they could get. Tesla has not ever made money selling cars. They lose money hand over fist selling low quality poo poo built in a tent because Musk is an idiot who refused to use existing institutional knowledge to manufacture vehicles. They have only ever made money because of government subsidies and selling carbon credits to polluters. The actual value of the company is literally the liquidated assets as they have no really good IP - if they did, it would be licensed. Tesla has only been able to survive as long as it has because the government props it up and they're able to sell a bunch of shares to idiots who think musk is tony stark any time they're in a cash crunch (like to pay musk). This lawsuit is a big deal for Tesla because I really do not think they can afford to pay it. They claim in their last quarterly filing to have 16bn cash and cash equivalent on hand, but I'm betting the "equivalent" part is doing a lot of the heavy lifting.
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In other news, someone in China probably signed his own death warrant as he drove around Xinjiang and filmed from the street all the different "reeducation" facilities. https://twitter.com/alisonkilling/status/1460243389060952074 There's a video with English subtitles or you can just read through the twitter thread.
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Prop Wash posted:What, if any, differences do you see in the way these two organizations operate? There’s plenty of differences. None of this is really relevant to the fact that if you’re celebrating Assange or any journalist being crushed by the intelligence apparatus for reporting on the crimes of the powerful you’re being hypocritical in whatever standard you’re applying to justify it or you just really really like authoritarianism.
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And with that we’ve completed the Assange / Bellingcat discussion.
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Mr. Nice! posted:In other news, someone in China probably signed his own death warrant as he drove around Xinjiang and filmed from the street all the different "reeducation" facilities. gently caress that’s chilling.
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Mr. Nice! posted:In other news, someone in China probably signed his own death warrant as he drove around Xinjiang and filmed from the street all the different "reeducation" facilities. Wait I though I read that these aren’t real according posters who said China isn’t doing anything but help out the people of Xinjiang and also that America did bad things so we need to not say bad things about China.  The answer is that tankies and whatabout people are idiots Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Nov 16, 2021 |
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Assange shouldn't be prosecuted for espionage, but imo the claim that Bellingcat and WikiLeaks are equivalent is absolutely absurd. e: Sorry FV
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The uncanny valley in the China video of the guy driving around what look almost just like Midwestern US highways touring concentration camps is spooky. I’m not really sure what can even be done at this point about it. There’s no real organized popular resistance or effective political movement in China that would roll this back and there isn’t any country that’s actually going to use the Uyghur genocide or whatever what is basically a genocide technically counts as as anything other than a cheap talking point. I dunno, maybe China in a decade or two hits a demographic cliff and has economic woes and the unrest is enough to shake things up and move things off the ethnic nationalist course Xi moved China on? In other, less depressing news though people are doing some gangster poo poo in Myanmar, which started with the age old “government shoots protesters protesters come back a couple years later as insurgents” NSFW because guns and stuff but no clearly visible deaths https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWTbeGirz5T/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Arven posted:Is that a left handed AR? Video is probably just mirrored Burma generally drives on the right side of the road but switched recently enough that you have cars based on left side driving which seems to be the case here. E: or Eugene stoner moved to Burma and lives to like 120 and became an inspired by old school counter-strike weapon models Butter Activities fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Nov 16, 2021 |
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