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Madmarker posted:Doom-violence is fun and solving problems with violence can be justified. Sure, in the case of literal demons from hell trying to eat everyone's faces. I'm not really sure Doom Guy is having fun, so much as he is fighting for his life and beating back the forces of Actual Hell and avenging the death of his pet bunny Daisy. Of course the presence of Hell and demons implies that at least parts of Christianity must be real, so maybe that is the political message, if any.
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Madmarker posted:Mario Kart-honestly no idea, the politics of Mario Kart specifically are invisible to me other than a simple "racing is fun and you should race" message. Also probably something about meritocracy or something, since only 1 person can be first place and there isn't team play in the primary game system. Everyone behind you will harm you to keep you from getting ahead, so you better harm them first!
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Nov 16, 2021 15:39
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Taerkar posted:Everyone behind you will harm you to keep you from getting ahead, so you better harm them first! No no no. Mario Kart is inherently competitive anti-capitalism. It teaches you that money is worthless, and that the people in last should get the best stuff, which should then be used to utterly gently caress up the most well off person and make them just like the rest of us.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:No no no. Picking up coins increases your top speed, which, you know, still works in this example.
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/benjamincohen/status/1460341503189041167 Milo certainly has fallen on hard times.
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KozmoNaut posted:Sure, in the case of literal demons from hell trying to eat everyone's faces. I'm not really sure Doom Guy is having fun, so much as he is fighting for his life and beating back the forces of Actual Hell and avenging the death of his pet bunny Daisy. Isn't Doom also anti-corporate in the sense that the gates to hell were opened by a greedy megacorp that should have totally known better?
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Nov 16, 2021 18:07
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PeterWeller posted:Isn't Doom also anti-corporate in the sense that the gates to hell were opened by a greedy megacorp that should have totally known better? I mean, that makes the most sense. UAC is heavily maligned throughout the game as both being keenly aware of the risks and refusing to address it, to the point that they portray Doctor Hayden as both oblivious to what is happening and if not downright destructive in ignoring the risks especially his handling of both the source of the energy and his employees like Olivia Pierce and the Doom Slayer's purpose.
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Nov 16, 2021 18:34
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Hayden is very much a sunk-cost kind of guy.
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Nov 16, 2021 18:36
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Casimir Radon posted:Hayden is very much a sunk-cost kind of guy. "Why let all these sacrificed employees blood go to waste."
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Nov 16, 2021 18:45
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PeterWeller posted:Isn't Doom also anti-corporate in the sense that the gates to hell were opened by a greedy megacorp that should have totally known better? not in the original releases, it's a theme that shows up in Doom 2016 and Eternal. 3 clearly shows something going wrong but also it's more the head scientist losing his poo poo in a personal fashion that's more the direct cause
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My dad told me Crown Vics are terrible on snow.
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:3 clearly shows something going wrong but also it's more the head scientist losing his poo poo in a personal fashion that's more the direct cause Doctor Betruger has betrayed us, how could we have seen this coming? 
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Nov 16, 2021 19:17
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Can I please just relax and play Wolfenstein without you dorks trying to find some political message hidden deep within the subconscious of a loving video game
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Nov 16, 2021 19:17
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Casimir Radon posted:My dad told me Crown Vics are terrible on snow. At the risk of getting woosh'd somehow, just get some winter tires and you'll be fine.
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Nov 16, 2021 19:37
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Neo_Crimson posted:At the risk of getting woosh'd somehow, just get some winter tires and you'll be fine.
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VitalSigns posted:Can I please just relax and play Wolfenstein without you dorks trying to find some political message hidden deep within the subconscious of a loving video game Why are people pushing their politics on my favorite novel Animal Farm.
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VitalSigns posted:Can I please just relax and play Wolfenstein without you dorks trying to find some political message hidden deep within the subconscious of a loving video game A game about Nazis and fighting an oppressive fascist government: No political messages here.
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J.A.B.C. posted:The entire scene just has two words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj6iDczCDOI
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Why are people pushing their politics on my favorite novel Animal Farm. I like the pigs in that one they're funny, they just can't agree!
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CommieGIR posted:A game about Nazis and fighting an oppressive fascist government: No political messages here.  It's also based on the fact that a few years back some alt right types were whining about FPS games being too political because the Nazis were the bad guys.
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Twelve by Pies posted:
Yeah I knew it was ironic, I was trying to continue And yeah, Bethesda gave the right response by flipping them the bird and doubling down on killing Nazis.
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Casimir Radon posted:We get enough snow that it’s just way easier to have something with front or all wheel drive. Proper tires help out way more than drivetrain. If you can afford it, always go for good winter tires.
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Madmarker posted:Hey so just off the top of my head with the political thing with regards to the games you listed: That's fine/all good. A lot/most people posting here disagree with me and I've given it some consideration and look at it a little differently. I suppose it says more about me than the games that, for the most part, I never really feel that way though. Maybe it's as simple that on the rare occasions that I actually have time to fire up a console and waste an afternoon, I'm doing it to get away from that sort of mindset instead of reading or listening to news. Or posting and reading here on several threads that I follow for that matter. Some of you have raised good points that I never really thought about but gently caress all of you if you ruin Elden Ring for me. 
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Jesus the hatred and contempt the right has for working class people is insane. Happened to hear Fox News when I went downstairs, Geraldo was telling a story about how he has a friend who owns a restaurant. He asked his friend "How are things?" and his friend replied "Not good, times are tough, I'm having to pay my dishwasher 16 dollars an hour." Everyone else immediately started talking about how absurd it was that a dishwasher should be paid such a high wage, with one of them saying "Well this is what happens when Democrats are in charge, the federal government is paying people to stay at home and not work, which means that business owners are forced to pay their dishwashers 16-18 dollars an hour and that's why the economy is such a mess right now!"
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They’ve been trying to pivot to at least outwardly claiming to be the party of the working class, but the reality is they still hate poor people.
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Had a guy come into my store wearing a Louder With Crowder hoodie  Idk, it's just weird seeing something that I've only ever seen in the context of "mocking on Twitter" actually come out in the real world
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Twelve by Pies posted:Jesus the hatred and contempt the right has for working class people is insane. Happened to hear Fox News when I went downstairs, Geraldo was telling a story about how he has a friend who owns a restaurant. He asked his friend "How are things?" and his friend replied "Not good, times are tough, I'm having to pay my dishwasher 16 dollars an hour." Dishwasher is by far the worst job to have to do in a restaurant and in a sane world would be getting paid the most in the entire restaurant.
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My first job. Overnight shift at a Denny's outside Fort Hood. Which meant a lot of drunk GIs. Combine too many Pina coladas and a scarfed down tuna melt, and guess who had to go clean out the urinal? Wasn't the line cooks or the waitresses. Maybe $2.90 an hour, which would be about $11 today.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Had a guy come into my store wearing a Louder With Crowder hoodie I work with a guy who drinks coffee out of a Louder With Crowder mug. Says it's his favorite. We don't discuss politics.
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VitalSigns posted:Can I please just relax and play Wolfenstein without you dorks trying to find some political message hidden deep within the subconscious of a loving video game No, and now we're going to talk about the legal implications of B.J. Blazkowicz's actions. Unlike most WW2 games, B.J. wasn't acting as a uniformed combatant, but instead as a spy.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:No, and now we're going to talk about the legal implications of B.J. Blazkowicz's actions. Definitely in The Old Blood and the tutorial level of New Order, but after that he's an Insurgent
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DarklyDreaming posted:Definitely in The Old Blood and the tutorial level of New Order, but after that he's an Insurgent Can't believe they make you play as a bad guy.
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anecdotal proof that the alt-right pipeline is indeed a thing: my friend turns out the dingus transformed from your typical left leaning apolitical lib who watched nothing more politically complex than the daily show, to full on anti-woke MAGA dipshit that loves sargon and ben shapiro. it would be bad enough if it was just simply a matter of his politics changing, but these anti-SJW channels legitimately broke his brain. we almost never discussed politics before, but i couldn't talk about any of the typical nerd poo poo we talked about without him going on an unhinged rant bout feminists taking over star wars and anime and such. i've legit severed reactionaries from my life in the past, and i'm willing to do the same to him, but i'd be lying if i didn't think it was gonna suck 
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None of the Sandy Hook stuff was apparently enough to make Rogan consider that maybe he shouldn’t associate with this person? Of course not.
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Casimir Radon posted:None of the Sandy Hook stuff was apparently enough to make Rogan consider that maybe he shouldn’t associate with this person? Of course not. Rogan is just as bad as the rest of that crew
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Piell posted:Rogan is just as bad as the rest of that crew
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Casimir Radon posted:None of the Sandy Hook stuff was apparently enough to make Rogan consider that maybe he shouldn’t associate with this person? Of course not. Sandy Hook proved that nothing in this country could break its addiction to guns. Not a loving thing. A literal pile of dead children and elementary teachers. Nothing changed. I'm not sure anything crackpinged me harder than Sandy Hook. Just the most gut-wrenching proof that our society is rotten from the core.
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LeeMajors posted:Sandy Hook proved that nothing in this country could break its addiction to guns. Not a loving thing. A literal pile of dead children and elementary teachers. Nothing changed.
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