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Acerbatus posted:the funny thing is I hear that too despite him supposedly having a deep and cool voice going off of SoD. It really works, right? He's supposed to be an evil character, but he's also the most self-aware and the most outright funny character in the cast, and that sort of loud obnoxious voice really fits that sort of evil-and-enjoying-it personality.
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Nov 16, 2021 15:17
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I keep forgetting that V can't cast Teleport
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Nov 16, 2021 15:44
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V being min maxed for 2nd edition is a pretty funny meta joke.
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Nov 16, 2021 15:51
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V isn't kidding. A well placed pause works wonders to keep people paying attention.
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blizzardvizard posted:I keep forgetting that V can't cast Teleport Is dimdoor also conjuration?
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Nov 16, 2021 16:13
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ikanreed posted:Is dimdoor also conjuration? Yep. Making V have conjuration as their barred school was a pretty clever storytelling decision. A lot of the story could be obviated by the Order just teleporting around everywhere.
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It's also great characterization. V has gotten better, but they believe only in their own raw arcane might. Conjuration is a school for getting help from others.
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Nov 16, 2021 16:54
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Tbf V did pack a scroll to make up for their shortcomings, that's growth! Conjuration is also a really powerful school in 3.5e and would give the Order a really loaded hand in terms of their combat ability. While an Evocation mage relative to the other schools is underpowered (Relatively!!! Evocation has some really powerful stuff!). A specialized conjuror using the Complete Arcana(?) has access to perhaps the best ability; sacrifice a third school of magic and get access to 10' teleports as a free action up to your int modifier per day. The Order having the upper hand has happened only like twice this entire comic so I'm enjoying this.
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Nov 16, 2021 17:22
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Also of note is that the different stone floor looks identical to the stone bricks in Serini's quarters.
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V and Haley look pretty roughed up. Maybe they should wait for their cleric?
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I assume the floor monster that Belkar wounded was a Trapper ( https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/oozes/trapper/ )
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Wittgen posted:V being min maxed for 2nd edition is a pretty funny meta joke. Um, ACKSTUALLY... In D&D 3.0, Telportation was considered a Transmutation spell. 3.5 changed it to Conjuration. https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0340.html It's obviously a way to restrain V from just making GBS threads on every threat(which he can still absolutely do because D&D Wizards are busted), but it does add a subtle bit of further hubris that V didn't consider everything when going for raw power.
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NameHurtBrain posted:Um, ACKSTUALLY... I love that the seemingly throwaway 3.0 -> 3.5 conversion strip from early on has had real consequences in the story even this far on.
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Yeah, I know the 3.5 conversion took away teleportation. But even in 3.0, evocation and direct damage was not the most powerful way to approach wizardry. 3rd edition has a lot more HP for everyone, so save or dies became the power gamer move. I like that the elf of the party has a build that's out of date, and I like that V is obsessed with power, but in a Timmy way more than a Spike way.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Tbf V did pack a scroll to make up for their shortcomings, that's growth! V has also been inconvenienced in the past by not having a Passwall available when he really needed it. So that's even more clearly growth - keeping some scrolls around for utility spells like that so he has the option even if he didn't prepare the spell that day.
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FMguru posted:I assume the floor monster that Belkar wounded was a Trapper ( https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/oozes/trapper/ ) I wonder if their treatment of the floor monster will make a difference to how Serini behaves.
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Parahexavoctal posted:I wonder if their treatment of the floor monster will make a difference to how Serini behaves. Look, if you’re going to use your pets as traps, don’t get too upset when someone disarms one
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Vizuyos posted:V has also been inconvenienced in the past by not having a Passwall available when he really needed it. So that's even more clearly growth - keeping some scrolls around for utility spells like that so he has the option even if he didn't prepare the spell that day. V has prepared scrolls to handle expected edge cases before. And said "It's in a wizards nature to be prepared". I don't really think it's character growth, but it is a plausible solution to an immediate problem. Which always feels triumphant.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Also of note is that the different stone floor looks identical to the stone bricks in Serini's quarters. Not only that, she even left her quarters to go confront the Order the same way - with the dimension door wand.
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W.T. Fits posted:Not only that, she even left her quarters to go confront the Order the same way - with the dimension door wand. Man, it's such a bummer the "POP!" is inconsistent between the two. I would've really appreciated that attention to detail!
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XkyRauh posted:Man, it's such a bummer the "POP!" is inconsistent between the two. I would've really appreciated that attention to detail! ACKSHUALLY it is explained by O'Chul and Lien not being able to see her (sound) and Belkar, Haley and V being able to see her (vision) and the panels being drawn nanoseconds apart relative to the casting of the wand and furthermore  i wanted to choke myself for writing that post
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So half the party, particularly the half that used to be distrustful and selfsh and grew into team players in recent arcs, are about to walk into a big ol' cloud of amnesia potion? That seems like a deliberate setup.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:So half the party, particularly the half that used to be distrustful and selfsh and grew into team players in recent arcs, are about to walk into a big ol' cloud of amnesia potion? That seems like a deliberate setup. I'm half suspecting this is a great time for the IFCC to take their second grab at V's soul.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I'm half suspecting this is a great time for the IFCC to take their second grab at V's soul. They want the gates to all be destroyed, right? That's why they took V the first time. Taking them now would just help protect the last gate, since it would aid Serini and that's her explicit goal.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:They want the gates to all be destroyed, right? That's why they took V the first time. Taking them now would just help protect the last gate, since it would aid Serini and that's her explicit goal. The IFF are not gods. If the Snarl breaks loose, they will be devoured like everyone else. (Or else folded into the next universe if the gods pull the plug in time).
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Gynovore posted:The IFF are not gods. If the Snarl breaks loose, they will be devoured like everyone else. (Or else folded into the next universe if the gods pull the plug in time). Thor said outsiders get memory wiped on resets.
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Tiamat was brought up as the one Western god who had plans based on the Dark One having purple whatsit, and also as a boss of the IFF. They have a plan with the gates that's not just Snarling everyone, but who knows what it is? It's turning Belkar into a god somehow.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:
The new Eastern pantheon: Belkar - god of war, cooking, and cats Banjo - god of banjos Giggles - god of slapstick violence
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Gynovore posted:The IFF are not gods. If the Snarl breaks loose, they will be devoured like everyone else. (Or else folded into the next universe if the gods pull the plug in time). Doesn't mean they can't somehow benefit from those events. Just look at Hel's scheme. There's plenty of room for evil folks to think they can gain some benefit from the destruction of the world and possibly more. We don't know exactly what the IFCC's angle is, of course. But they've made it fairly clear that the destruction of the world is among their objectives, either by the gods or by the Snarl. And when we last saw them, they were talking about preparing a mystery artifact and a sacrifice to use it, so who knows what this mysterious MacGuffin could be?
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Vizuyos posted:. ?? No? I'm pretty sure all they've said they want is "destructive, unnecessary conflict"
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After the events at the Godsmoot failed to result in the end of the world (for now) one of them said, "I suppose it was too much to hope the gods would do our work for us." Here: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1183.html
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ikanreed posted:Is dimdoor also conjuration? Teleportation is a specific subschool of Conjuration. I'm sure there's some weird teleport in a splat book that is actually, I dunno, Necromancy and you explode out of a corpse within 30' but otherwise it's all Conjuration.
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I was just reading the Soul Splice arc again, and normally I wouldn't put too much thought into the specific meanings of the red pill/blue pill bit, but they specifically call it out, and I think that's for more than just the 'Woah.' joke. Accepting the deal uses the blue 'pill', which in the Matrix is the one used for staying in the illusion. It would've been by touching the red orb, and accepting their helplessness and that they can't solve every problem themselves, that would have freed V from the system. Every time I reread this comic, I find something else I missed before.
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I still think it's amazing the strip ended up where it is dealing with thousands of years of racial inequality when it started with stupid jokes about the rules of D&D and "lol ogre was wearing girdle of masculinity/femininity" Just absolutely unpredictable
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TheAceOfLungs posted:
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I love that Roy got included, makes it even better. 
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Tiny nitpick, he should be a Legendary Artifact Creature. Edit: At which point I'm sure you could find some kind of impractical use for an indestructible non-creature artifact with lifelink for 1W. The obvious answer is Ensoul Artifact, for a two card, four-mana 5/5 with some nice abilities, but that's just not very satisfying and kind of ruins the joke. (I also thought about Mechanized Production, but Banjo is a legend and can't be copied. Also the card type is Legendary.) girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Nov 18, 2021 |
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girl dick energy posted:Tiny nitpick, he should be a Legendary Artifact Creature. Actually, banjo can't be an artifact. He doesn't have the type. RAW he's the following things: legendary, God, white, Permanent, and cmc 2. Maybe he counts as a creature when he's not in play?
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Pretty sure the mtg rules implode if you have a permanent on the battlefield that doesn't have a permanent type (artifact, creature, enchantment, planeswalker, land). Banjo is templated similar to the Theros gods, who were enchantment creatures, so they could still exist as enchantments while they weren't creatures. But Banjo doesn't have that extra type as a fallback (and GDE was suggesting having artifact instead of enchantment). Fortunately, it's silver-bordered, so the rules imploding is more of a feature than a bug.
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