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Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

Batterypowered7 posted:

Okay, but does it still count if I don't move the couches to clean under them?

“No tree can grow to Heaven,” adds the ever-terrifying Carl Gustav Jung, psychoanalyst extraordinaire, “unless its roots reach down to Hell.”

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ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Can we get all the lame nerds to stand over here on this side of the room, and stop posting your college dissertation on Hegel so we can make fun of you, tia

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

eSporks posted:

Yep, OP spelled it out in their post. Your friend doesn't think JORP is transphobic because your friend doesn't think transphobia is transphobic. JOPRS just using facts and logic, facts and logic have no bias.

For a lot of people the only way to be bigoted in their eyes is to actively and maliciously physically assault someone, use a slur, or say the exact phrase "I hate you specifically because you are black/brown/gay/trans/etc" (the slightest deviation in word choice will mean it's not actually bigoted). And a lot of that is because those are really really easy forms of bigotry to recognize while things like "I just don't recognize your identity and in fact think you're you're delusional and mentally unsound" take more emotional effort and the ability to empathize others outside of our own categorical experiences which is itself a skill that is not only woefully under taught but sometimes actively taught against.

E: a second reason, I believe, people hyper-focus only the most blatant and obvious bigotry is that the sort of critical thinking necessary to acknowledge more subtle forms quickly becomes uncomfortable when it's turned inwards on oneself.

Who What Now fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Nov 16, 2021

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

Soapy_Bumslap posted:

What are benzos like anyway, i gotta fathom they're p. sweet

I got heavily addicted to benzodiazepines when I was in patient at some dump with chantix based psychosis and psychotic depression

Ativan 5 mgs. you take them and sleep. at least I did. some people stay awake and do loopy stuff while droopy. I would eat them and stay in bed for like 20 hrs

withdrawal felt like I had cerebral palsy, I couldn't walk unaided. some people straight up die from benzo/bento withdrawal

frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?
"Hi, I'm Dr Jordan Peterson, prepare to be amazed at my pseudo-intellectual babble, dorky demeanour and dogshit opinions. Also, I strongly urge you all to eat nothing but meat and benzos."

*some poo poo-head after viewing the 500th JP video on YouTube* - "Woah, this guy's really clever, I should try and gotcha the nearest person I can by copy-pasting his words into my argument."

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

kntfkr posted:

I got heavily addicted to benzodiazepines when I was in patient at some dump with chantix based psychosis and psychotic depression

Ativan 5 mgs. you take them and sleep. at least I did. some people stay awake and do loopy stuff while droopy. I would eat them and stay in bed for like 20 hrs

withdrawal felt like I had cerebral palsy, I couldn't walk unaided. some people straight up die from benzo/bento withdrawal

Benzos and alcohol gently caress with your central nervous system in ways that other drugs don't, so withdrawing your brain goes into overdrive to make up for the lack of substance. You can seizure yourself to death, or get delirium tremens and have a few horrifying hallucinogenic days before you die of fever or seizure or just being crazy and getting injured.

This isn't really well known and I think it would help a lot of addicts that their family knows it isn't just withdrawal, it's a dangerous medical condition that needs oversight.

That said, lol at Jorp. Rich and educated, coulda just gone to a hospital for the initial phase and then gotten god-tier outpatient treatment. But nope, so rational he hit up the coma gulag.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Zulily Zoetrope posted:

he literally rose to fame by crusading against gender identity being a protected class against whom you legally cannot discriminate

like he and his cronies will spew a lot of nonsense about "compelled speech" but if you think that's worth entertaining for even a second, you need to not only reevaluate your friend, but yourself as well

E: to be clear, he literally wants canada to repeal the bill that says you can't discriminate against trans people, on the grounds of "freedom of speech"
Dr.D-O is asking for specific examples though, not reaffirmation that he is. The old best example was probably his youtube videos whining about C-16, but those have been privated last I checked. I'm sure there is some youtubesmen who has a better collection of proof and explanation. Though evidence of his just plain old sexism is way way easier to find because Jordan Peterson is an incel that coerced someone into marriage at heart.


kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
lol enforced monogamy instead of normalized legal prostitution.

ok

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
seems like you'd get great gains in efficiency if you forced the incels to marry each other. making each male incel marry a presumably desirable female seems kind of half-assed. the male incels would have more in common and could play video games together

Dongsturm
Feb 17, 2012

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Benzos and alcohol gently caress with your central nervous system in ways that other drugs don't, so withdrawing your brain goes into overdrive to make up for the lack of substance. You can seizure yourself to death, or get delirium tremens and have a few horrifying hallucinogenic days before you die of fever or seizure or just being crazy and getting injured.

This isn't really well known and I think it would help a lot of addicts that their family knows it isn't just withdrawal, it's a dangerous medical condition that needs oversight.

That said, lol at Jorp. Rich and educated, coulda just gone to a hospital for the initial phase and then gotten god-tier outpatient treatment. But nope, so rational he hit up the coma gulag.

Even better, he did go to several hospitals, and Mr. Responsibility himself couldn't deal with the consequences of his actions.

quote:

"The decision to bring him to Russia was made in extreme desperation, when we couldn't find any better option," his daughter said, referencing "several" failed treatment attempts in North American hospitals, where doctors tried to slowly taper Peterson off the medication. The nature of the therapy that Peterson has been receiving in Moscow isn't clear. And his daughter declined to provide more details when contacted by CBC News.

Powerful Katrinka
Oct 11, 2021

an admin fat fingered a permaban and all i got was this lousy av
Reminder that Jorp psychoanalyzes and weeps over Disney movies

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013

Ihki posted:

segway

:allears:

Ihki
Dec 28, 2005
Hiik
I actually googled it like twenty minutes ago. English as a third language, never remember seeing it written :shrug:

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

Who What Now posted:

For a lot of people the only way to be bigoted in their eyes is to actively and maliciously physically assault someone, use a slur, or say the exact phrase "I hate you specifically because you are black/brown/gay/trans/etc" (the slightest deviation in word choice will mean it's not actually bigoted). And a lot of that is because those are really really easy forms of bigotry to recognize while things like "I just don't recognize your identity and in fact think you're you're delusional and mentally unsound" take more emotional effort and the ability to empathize others outside of our own categorical experiences which is itself a skill that is not only woefully under taught but sometimes actively taught against.

E: a second reason, I believe, people hyper-focus only the most blatant and obvious bigotry is that the sort of critical thinking necessary to acknowledge more subtle forms quickly becomes uncomfortable when it's turned inwards on oneself.

It's not that complicated. They don't think they're bigoted because they think their hatred of anyone who isn't a cis white fascist male is justified due to their brains being hardwired to be shifty and paranoid towards anyone who's different from them. Those feelings of paranoia feel so normal to them that they sooner assume everyone else really is a horrible monster who's out to enslave and exterminate them, than stop and question those feelings. It's why guys like Peterson are so confident that the things they believe are correct and true: It's the way they're genetically programmed to think and behave, so it feels like the correct way to think and behave to them.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
Sure, but humans have the ability to act against their genetic programming. Giving in to atavistic hatred of the other is a moral failing.

Vashro
May 12, 2004

Proud owner of Lazy Lion #46
someone please explain Sublime Objects to me. I don't want to read that guy who wishes he was Zizec's posts, is he right or wrong? Peterson seems sublime to me.
wait I looked it up, he is NOT sublime

Vashro fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 16, 2021

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:

seems like you'd get great gains in efficiency if you forced the incels to marry each other. making each male incel marry a presumably desirable female seems kind of half-assed. the male incels would have more in common and could play video games together

Plus they'd be getting a virgin

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

packetmantis posted:

Sure, but humans have the ability to act against their genetic programming. Giving in to atavistic hatred of the other is a moral failing.

I agree but Peterson and rightwingers are obsessed with "RETURN TO MONKEY" because that behavior feels more "natural" to them.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Yaldabaoth posted:

It's not that complicated. They don't think they're bigoted because they think their hatred of anyone who isn't a cis white fascist male is justified due to their brains being hardwired to be shifty and paranoid towards anyone who's different from them. Those feelings of paranoia feel so normal to them that they sooner assume everyone else really is a horrible monster who's out to enslave and exterminate them, than stop and question those feelings. It's why guys like Peterson are so confident that the things they believe are correct and true: It's the way they're genetically programmed to think and behave, so it feels like the correct way to think and behave to them.

I'm talking more about your average American on the street but you're right, this also applies to a lot of other more actively lovely people.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Vashro posted:

someone please explain Sublime Objects to me. I don't want to read that guy who wishes he was Zizec's posts, is he right or wrong? Peterson seems sublime to me.
wait I looked it up, he is NOT sublime

The only truly sublime objects are bofa

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Why do these people want to marry virgins, anyway? That makes no sense to me, like considering rope-makers unclean.

rain dogs
Apr 19, 2020

Jordor Pooderton

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Why do these people want to marry virgins, anyway? That makes no sense to me, like considering rope-makers unclean.

They don't want someone more experienced than they are

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
yeah, virgins don't antagonize feelings of sexual inadequacy as much

also the 'typical' path of sexual experience is for virgins or fumbling near-virgins to paw awkwardly at each other, and you've got to experience this right of passage to be 'normal', which is why these guys don't just hire sex workers

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Learning about life from movies and tv really hosed up a lot of people, didn’t it?

chainchompz
Jul 15, 2021

bark bark

Milo and POTUS posted:

They don't want someone more experienced than they are

It's a million times this. They are so insecure about themselves that they simply will not accept someone who might realize they're better off without them and leave. It's the dual fear of loneliness and unwillingness to accept themselves as they are that's pushing them to have unilateral control over the women in their lives.

Source: had an abusive relationship with a Jorper/proto-alt-right guy. Woof 2011 me, woof. Ugh.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Learning about life from movies and tv really hosed up a lot of people, didn’t it?

Porn too but yeah. Pretty much. By a lot I might even say almost everybody but I'm pessimistic lol

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Anybody who's ever had sex with a virgin knows that it is the worst; an incel, of course would not know this

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Who What Now posted:

The only truly sublime objects are bofa

*sighs*

What's Bofa?

Soapy_Bumslap
Jun 19, 2013

We're gonna need a bigger chode
Grimey Drawer

Poohs Packin posted:

*sighs*

What's Bofa?

Bofadeazepam

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Did I just piss off a Jorp fanboy to get this new avatar and title?

But seriously, Jorp shrieks about :biotruths: all the time so applying :biotruths: to the jorpers is entirely appropriate.

Yaldabaoth fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Nov 16, 2021

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
lota butthurt chuds throwing change in Jeffery's hat lately. Ya love to see it.


E: VVVV Yes. gently caress that stupid kid.

old beast lunatic fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Nov 16, 2021

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

old beast lunatic posted:

lota butthurt chuds throwing change in Jeffery's hat lately. Ya love to see it.

Lol, is your red text about Kyle Rittenhouse?

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.

ElGroucho posted:

Anybody who's ever had sex with a virgin knows that it is the worst; an incel, of course would not know this

Well, sort of. They know their sex is the worst and it drives them mad.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Yaldabaoth posted:

Did I just piss off a Jorp fanboy to get this new avatar and title?

But seriously, Jorp shrieks about :biotruths: all the time so applying :biotruths: to the jorpers is entirely appropriate.

If I had to guess, judging by the text and your recent post history I'd say it might be from the primate thread. I'm not sure why anyone would care enough about it though.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
Why can't I get a chud redtext instead of this lovely avatar from some whiny prick!!!

BIG BABY JESUS
Jan 4, 2009

comrade commisrawr
surely I have complained enough about people thinking the american justice system ought to be run by 17 year olds dropped off by their mom to get angry chud redtext av

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

old beast lunatic posted:

lota butthurt chuds throwing change in Jeffery's hat lately. Ya love to see it.


E: VVVV Yes. gently caress that stupid kid.

Jeffrey could make a fortune if he'd charge you to figure out who av and text changed you

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

Tarkus posted:

If I had to guess, judging by the text and your recent post history I'd say it might be from the primate thread. I'm not sure why anyone would care enough about it though.

Someone's really mad that I misidentified an ape with big balls as a bonobo instead of a chimpanzee.

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Powerful Katrinka
Oct 11, 2021

an admin fat fingered a permaban and all i got was this lousy av

Yaldabaoth posted:

Someone's really mad that I misidentified an ape with big balls as a bonobo instead of a chimpanzee.

Sure, who hasn't been through that?

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